1 week old killed by Dog.

I commented on the other post about this last night...and this is my opinion. I get some people won't see my point of view though.

Even the nicest dog in the world can loose its temper. We have a golden retriever and most of the time her and Ava are best friends- however last week Ava continued to annoy her by pulling her tail and she lashed out and bit her. And before you say it- no, my dog isn't untrained. She doesn't jump up, rarely barks and is generally a nice, friendly well behaved dog and as I said they usually get on like a house on fire- but if someone sits there and pulls my tail none stop for ten minutes...im pretty sure I would loose my temper too.

People need to learn that young children and animals DONT mix. Mollie was very jealous at first- would growl from behind the baby gate seperating the kitchen and our lounge- if I opened the gate it would be a struggle to grab her before she got across the room and ready to attack.

We have to remember- this is a dog with animal instincts- they aren't human and don't understand certain things.

It is a real tragedy I agree and my heart goes out to them- but part of me is angry for them lacking in the common sense of not to leave the dog with the child alone in the first place.

Why would you let a child torment a dog like that?? That is unfair on the dog and your LO. No way should a dog be put in a position where its annoyed to the point of biting
 
I commented on the other post about this last night...and this is my opinion. I get some people won't see my point of view though.

Even the nicest dog in the world can loose its temper. We have a golden retriever and most of the time her and Ava are best friends- however last week Ava continued to annoy her by pulling her tail and she lashed out and bit her. And before you say it- no, my dog isn't untrained. She doesn't jump up, rarely barks and is generally a nice, friendly well behaved dog and as I said they usually get on like a house on fire- but if someone sits there and pulls my tail none stop for ten minutes...im pretty sure I would loose my temper too.

People need to learn that young children and animals DONT mix. Mollie was very jealous at first- would growl from behind the baby gate seperating the kitchen and our lounge- if I opened the gate it would be a struggle to grab her before she got across the room and ready to attack.

We have to remember- this is a dog with animal instincts- they aren't human and don't understand certain things.

It is a real tragedy I agree and my heart goes out to them- but part of me is angry for them lacking in the common sense of not to leave the dog with the child alone in the first place.

Why would you let a child torment a dog like that?? That is unfair on the dog and your LO. No way should a dog be put in a position where its annoyed to the point of biting

Absolutely agree, why would anyone allow that? This is a dog you are talking about, an animal, not a teddy bear?

If I had a dog that showed any signs of aggression towards my child it would be gone, no question, there would be no chances, no opportunities for anything to happen and I certainly wouldn't be fighting a dog at a gate to stop them running over and attacking my child!!!

Years ago we had a Doberman (well actually 2 and a rotty at this time) he slept in his bed in the kitchen and the girls had outdoor kennels. My stepdad would go down at 5 every morning at let the dogs out for a wee while he got ready for work, one morning he went in and the Dobby growled and snarled at him and then went for him. Dog was gone same day, no chances.
 
Littlegenes its fair enough u having an opinion, but you're basing it on facts that we actually dont know for sure, then contradicting yourself.

xo
 
I commented on the other post about this last night...and this is my opinion. I get some people won't see my point of view though.

Even the nicest dog in the world can loose its temper. We have a golden retriever and most of the time her and Ava are best friends- however last week Ava continued to annoy her by pulling her tail and she lashed out and bit her. And before you say it- no, my dog isn't untrained. She doesn't jump up, rarely barks and is generally a nice, friendly well behaved dog and as I said they usually get on like a house on fire- but if someone sits there and pulls my tail none stop for ten minutes...im pretty sure I would loose my temper too.

People need to learn that young children and animals DONT mix. Mollie was very jealous at first- would growl from behind the baby gate seperating the kitchen and our lounge- if I opened the gate it would be a struggle to grab her before she got across the room and ready to attack.

We have to remember- this is a dog with animal instincts- they aren't human and don't understand certain things.

It is a real tragedy I agree and my heart goes out to them- but part of me is angry for them lacking in the common sense of not to leave the dog with the child alone in the first place.

So a dog that has previously shown aggression towards your child you now let your child play with?
This is the most contridictory post i have ever seen.
How can you sit there and say people should learn that young kids and animals don't mix and follow it up by saying you have allowed them to!
Yes it is common sense but by the sounds of this post, you are lacking some.
 
What on earth? Why would you let your child pull a dog around like that? No wonder the dog snapped :nope:
 
I commented on the other post about this last night...and this is my opinion. I get some people won't see my point of view though.

Even the nicest dog in the world can loose its temper. We have a golden retriever and most of the time her and Ava are best friends- however last week Ava continued to annoy her by pulling her tail and she lashed out and bit her. And before you say it- no, my dog isn't untrained. She doesn't jump up, rarely barks and is generally a nice, friendly well behaved dog and as I said they usually get on like a house on fire- but if someone sits there and pulls my tail none stop for ten minutes...im pretty sure I would loose my temper too.

People need to learn that young children and animals DONT mix. Mollie was very jealous at first- would growl from behind the baby gate seperating the kitchen and our lounge- if I opened the gate it would be a struggle to grab her before she got across the room and ready to attack.

We have to remember- this is a dog with animal instincts- they aren't human and don't understand certain things.

It is a real tragedy I agree and my heart goes out to them- but part of me is angry for them lacking in the common sense of not to leave the dog with the child alone in the first place.

So let me just understand this for a minute. You have a dog who showed what sounds like very aggressive tendencies towards your child when she was a baby, and now she's a toddler she was allowed to pull your dogs tail for ten minutes?

That's just incredibly irresponsible! I'm sorry but why on earth was your toddler allowed to pull her tail for ten minutes?

We have two lovely dogs, who are extremely well trained and know their place in the pack order for sure in our house but I wouldn't dream of letting my toddler pull their tails even for a second. That's just not fair on the animal or the child.

I am actually quite shocked you've posted this.
 
I know what my child would get if she pulled my dogs tail and annoyed him like that! A very good shouting at.
xoxox
 
I commented on the other post about this last night...and this is my opinion. I get some people won't see my point of view though.

Even the nicest dog in the world can loose its temper. We have a golden retriever and most of the time her and Ava are best friends- however last week Ava continued to annoy her by pulling her tail and she lashed out and bit her. And before you say it- no, my dog isn't untrained. She doesn't jump up, rarely barks and is generally a nice, friendly well behaved dog and as I said they usually get on like a house on fire- but if someone sits there and pulls my tail none stop for ten minutes...im pretty sure I would loose my temper too.

People need to learn that young children and animals DONT mix. Mollie was very jealous at first- would growl from behind the baby gate seperating the kitchen and our lounge- if I opened the gate it would be a struggle to grab her before she got across the room and ready to attack.

We have to remember- this is a dog with animal instincts- they aren't human and don't understand certain things.

It is a real tragedy I agree and my heart goes out to them- but part of me is angry for them lacking in the common sense of not to leave the dog with the child alone in the first place.

So a dog that has previously shown aggression towards your child you now let your child play with?
This is the most contridictory post i have ever seen.
How can you sit there and say people should learn that young kids and animals don't mix and follow it up by saying you have allowed them to!
Yes it is common sense but by the sounds of this post, you are lacking some.

Not only has she allowed them to mix, she also said the dog bit her child, after her child tormented it. What was all that about shiny pennies before??

xo
 
Devil's advocate here, but perhaps she's showing how even the calmest of animals can turn? I dunno, I wouldn't watch my child repeatedly pull an animal's tail. Alex gets told to stop if he's throwing things at the cat.
 
Thats not allowing the animal to have respect though. I dont let my kids climb on the dog because its not fair on the dog!
 
But the animal didnt "turn", it was repeatedly tugged and pulled. She also said she had to physically restrain it in the past from attacking her newborn. So its a prettt bad example of a.calm animal :wacko:

xo
 
Devil's advocate here, but perhaps she's showing how even the calmest of animals can turn? I dunno, I wouldn't watch my child repeatedly pull an animal's tail. Alex gets told to stop if he's throwing things at the cat.

But the animal wasn't calm Ozzie, it had already showed aggression towards her daughter :shrug:
 
Devil's advocate here, but perhaps she's showing how even the calmest of animals can turn? I dunno, I wouldn't watch my child repeatedly pull an animal's tail. Alex gets told to stop if he's throwing things at the cat.

But the animal wasn't calm Ozzie, it had already showed aggression towards her daughter :shrug:

I know. I was just thinking maybe she worded it poorly accidentally.
 
So sad :(

For those who say that a child should always be kept out of reach of a dog.... have you ever seen awhere a jack russell can get to? I have a Deerhound, one of the tallest breeds. My mum has a Jackapoo. The Jackapoo can reach far higher places than my deerhound :wacko:.... they're pretty good at jumping!

It is hard not to blame the breed. Jack Russells are known for being nippy. It might be that the child was nipped rather than an aggresive attack, I don't think it's anyone's fault and it is a shame that the animal had to be put down :(
 
I would be very concerned about any dog that you have to hold back from attacking a baby. That to me.screams unstable.

I know any dog is capable of snapping but allowing a dog with obvious aggression to be pulled around just seems to reckless to me :(

Willow cuddles Dex and sometimes lies on him but she knows to be gentle and Dex has never once shown any kind of aggression towards the kids. There is no way I would allow the girls to tug him. I'd snap if someone tugged me for 10 minutes let alone a dog
 
There are 4 dogs in our family. My LO and my nephew are allowed to cuddle and play with 3 of them (Labrador, Springador, Deerhound) quite full on, like lying on them etc.... obviously if they started tormenting them, even though they are passive dogs, we would stop it straight away, more for respect for the dogs rather than fear of them biting (although dogs are unpredictalbe and you never know.). The 4th (a Jackapoo) is lovely but is possesive over toys and doesn't like being cornered so we have to be careful not to let our lo's be too full on with him or take a toy off him.... we are aware of this and never leave him alone with the boys.
 
Daisy is allowed to lie on and cuddle my 17 year old staffy. He is gentle as a lamb and loves her to bits and is happy for her to do that. He's never shown aggression to anyone or anything in 17 years. They are never unsupervised though. I don't let her cuddle my other two dogs (German shepherd and a chihuahua). I don't even let her stroke my chihuahua unless I'm right there actually. MY GSD is gentle natured but big and boisterous and could hurt her by accident and even though my chihuahua has never bitten or snapped at anyone I couldn't say 100% that she wouldn't do it.
 
/\/\.... It was only until our LO turned 2 that he became heavy enough that our Deerhound didn't knock him over with him bum :dohh: That was the thing we worried about when LO was little!
 

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