1st Cycle IVF April 2013

Aw Too Excited so sorry I never looked back at your footer. I really thought it would work for you. It's so hard, we get excited thinking that the outcome will be good & it's a big sickening kick in the stomach when its bad news. I am trying to chill out on sex I know my eggs are bad so I'm giving up trying so much & just enjoying sex again. Deep down I still hope it will surprise me & I fall pregnant naturally!!

When are you on holiday again? I'm off in September, dont know what our plans are yet. I have a wedding this weekend, it will be nice to get dressed up.

Hope your ok, hugs xx
 
Hello everyone - our thread got lost way down the list!

How are you doing?

V2R - how was the wedding? Have you booked your holiday yet?

Captainj - thinking of you & still have everything crossed

cooch - how are you getting on? I'm sorry i can't remember where you are up to with your treatment. I have ordered my CoQ10 but i went with the purer form Ubiqionol so you only need 300-400mg per day. I'm also taking myo-inositol which is meant to help with egg quality. Oh and also back on my 75mg of micronised DHEA. We shall see hey!

2have - have you got any further with the donor process? Hope it is going well for you.

AFM - I am still waiting for my follow up apt with the consultant which is 3 weeks today and hopefully we won't have to wait too long for cycle 2. We had a lovely week in cornwall and even got some sun so I am feeling much more positive about things now and ready to try again when we get the chance. It all happens for a reason, even if it breaks our heart at the time xx
 
Thanks TooExcited - to be honest I have all but given up hope for this cycle. I'm just not feeling remotely positive and my body feels completely pre menstrual apart from I don't have sore boobs like I normally do. :(

X
 
Hi ladies, I'm sorry to hear the bad news that everyone has gone through. M/c aren't fun and neither is a failed IVF. I'm sending you warm big bear hugs from Canada. Captain, does this mean that you're pupo? If so, a hugh congratulations with fingers and toes crossed.

AFM, I've got my last IVF lined up for sept and currently looking into the donor process for the minute they tell me my eggs aren't growing. I'm doing estrogen priming instead of the pill this month. They let you ovulate and then you get onto estrogen patches and then start with the burselin and gonal F.

The one donor clinic that my fs uses is $16-17,000 with a guaranteed pregnancy and more eggs if the initial 6 don't work out. We've picked a donor that looks very similar to myself. My FS also uses another donor clinic that has higher success rates and lower cost although i'm not sure it's a guaranteed pregnancy if it doesn't work out/more eggs. $10,000 for that clinic. It looks like the average is 1 live birth per 5-6 eggs and then for a second child you pay again. Booo, infertility is really an expensive endeavor (never mind raising those little monkeys!) I'm looking into travelling to the states to do a fresh cycle with this donor that we picked out. If there wasn't so much freezing/thawing it might be less expensive and more successful. And hey, a little shopping in the usa never hurt my happiness factor either. Better yet, if the clinic was by the ocean and I could get a day of surfing in beforehand?? Wow, that would top my little cake lol.

I've been focussed on losing my last 20 lbs (since Sunday). We returned from a Florida vacation Saturday. I bought some skinny jeans down there that I want to look fabulous in this fall. It's ironic that if I do get preggers, I'll be in the best shape of my life. I REALLY hope we have some successes before Christmas on this board. Some of the other boards I'm on have a few pregnancies popping up, it's so refreshing to see.
 
Captainj - please don't give up yet. The progesterone is doing crazy things to you. I think a "no expectations" cycle isn't a bad idea - self preservation is vital.

TooHave - you sound like you have it all mapped out. I really hope it is successful. If I were in your shoes I would go for the clinic with the guarantee and Sod's law says you will catch on your first go - but who cares about a few $$$ when you will have a beautiful baby to show for it? Great news on your weight loss too. You will look fab in those jeans - after you've had the baby xxx
 
Captainj - please don't give up yet. The progesterone is doing crazy things to you. I think a "no expectations" cycle isn't a bad idea - self preservation is vital.

TooHave - you sound like you have it all mapped out. I really hope it is successful. If I were in your shoes I would go for the clinic with the guarantee and Sod's law says you will catch on your first go - but who cares about a few $$$ when you will have a beautiful baby to show for it? Great news on your weight loss too. You will look fab in those jeans - after you've had the baby xxx

I'm actually not sure that the progesterone is doing ANYTHING to me! I had sore boobs last time, this time nothing. The crinone seems to come straight back out of me most of the time (TMI!!). Anyway I'm going to test tomorrow morning with a 6 days early First Response. i am 99% sure it will be BFN. I will be 8dp5dt x
 
It's a BFN for me ladies, as expected. Did a lot of crying last night with DH for cuddles so I'm disappointed but not completely crushed this time. Just difficult to know what I can do differently... Xx
 
I am so so sorry. Is today your OTD? So are you going to do another fresh cycle rather than thaw out your last frostie? Maybe you should try a different clinic? Some fresh ideas may be what you need?

Thinking of you xx
 
Hi Ladies, this thread is not bringing much good news! I looked on internet on ways to improve my eggs & theres little more I can do. I have totally given up I'm not taking folic acid or any vitamins bugger it I give up. I have told my o/h to find someone else if he wants kids (he already has a 13 year old who he hasnt seen since she was 4) but I dont want him to miss out on a proper family just because my eggs are useless.

Captain,the crinone just came straight out of me as well it was disgusting. So sorry it never worked. Its hard to go through it all for it to fail.

2have - Do you meet your donor? Amazing how you pick the person & know how they look etc. Good luck in losing your extra pounds, are you exercising & dieting?

Too Excited - Have you been back to the clinic yet? Good you are back to being positive & feeling refreshed.

xx
 
Tooexcited - thank you for your kind words. V2R it's been getting rid of carbs almost altogether, my carbs are veg only and if I must, then I'll have a little quinoa. As long as I do that I don't get hungry, I don't get cravings, I have enough energy to work out. I use protein powder for baking and have a glass of crystal light with unflavoured protein powder now and then when I'm hungry but it's not meal time yet. Exercise 2-3x/week otherwise more and I get too ravenous, 90% of weight loss success is what you put in your mouth. When I maintain I add carbs (brown bread, brown basmati rice,quinoa back in) but I just can't lose any weight while eating carby foods.

T00Excited I kind of agree with you, go for the guaranteed bfp.
With crinone, I used softcups during the day. It keeps it up where it should be and avoids a big mess. At night I didn't care either way.
Captain or V2R you ladies wouldn't consider donor eggs? Sorry Captain, I know it hurts so bad :hugs:
 
Hi Ladies, just wondering how you are all doing? I have been away on holiday & to a hen weekend so it's been a drink fuelled week! I was speaking to a girl who fosters as I was starting to consider looking into it but I have been put off....I am going to email the hospital today to see when my appointment will be ,I feel I need to know why my eggs arent good there must be a reason especially when I respond great to treatment.
I have started to panic that I will never be a mum the thought is in my mind constant.!
 
Hi V2r, I'm glad to hear you've had a good weekend. Have faith, you will be a mom, the path may be windy but if you're flexible with taking different paths, you will have success.
I did my last IVF and my eggs failed again to respond (I had the scan this morning) so I'm just frantically looking into donor eggs. We'll most likely travel to the USA to do a fresh cycle and then freeze and bring the frosties back to Canada to have on stock for us for future use. The success rates with using frozen eggs shipped to canada are dismal and with me being such a demanding person wanting 4 kids, well it sound better to me to have loads of healthy frozen blasts then to have to use different Frozen eggs at $10,000/half dozen everytime we want a child. With only a 1 in 5 success rate of pregnancy using frozen eggs shipped to Canada, I feel that it's a crappy option. I wish Canada wasn't so caveman like about fertility options. Anyway, I won't rant, this is our path, I'm just disappointed that it'll take even longer. But that's why I'm trying to put together a solution for plan B asap. I told the egg donation coordinator that I want a BFP by Christmas this year, not aggressive am I?

Hi to everyone, ladies I hope you're all doing OK and working towards your own successes ;)
 
2have4kids - So sorry it's heartbreaking that your eggs have failed. It's good you are moving forward, it will be exciting. So do you get to pick who'z eggs you carry and do you find out alot about the person? It's different in Scotland as we never see or find out who the person is.

I hate all the waiting around I had a look into adoption/fostering but because we are doing IVF we will not be considered at the moment. My reply from hospital was I'm scheduled to start treatment in December. So I will start taking folic acid again.

I'm keeping my fingers & toes crossed for us, It would be great for us all to have success stories in 2014 then share our baby experience. We wont give up.xx
 
yes I totally get your frustration with the waiting. You may have a better medical system that pays for your ivf however it just seems to take a loooooong time. I'm getting the authorization forms off to my clinic right now in order for them to release my medical records to the San Antonio clinic. There's a full work up on this donor, she's got her grandparents medical history, her parents, her siblings and a write up and photos all about her.
The soonest consultation the clinic could get us was Nov 8 but the lady said if we get our forms in she'll maybe see if there's any earlier date they can squeeze us into. I'd like to be doing the FET/IVF with her in Nov, not a chat with the doc! I'll be praying (even though I'm not religious) at my thanksgiving table this October for a BFP by Christmas. What a dream that would be.
 
Hello ladies - I'm sorry I have been absent for so long... I will explain.

V2R - I'm pleased to hear you are giving IVF another go. Have you had a follow up with the FS to see what they will do differently?

2have - I'm so sorry your cycle failed. You sound very clued up on your donor options though which I'm sure will work in your favour. I have my fingers crossed.

AFM - it's been a difficult week for us. We had an amazing thing happen to us with a natural bfp the cycle after our failed IVF . We found out on our wedding anniversary so were over the moon. Then a few weeks later I started bleeding. We had a scan & the sac was still there so told to wait it out. Then 5 days later we were scanned again & saw a heartbeat... Then this Monday we went again and the little one had stopped developing. So then I had to wait out the end. It has been one of the toughest weeks of my life. I thought once you had seen a heartbeat it was a good sign - sadly not. Now we've pushed everything back so need at least 2 periods after this one before we can think about IVF again. The saga continues... Xx
 
2have- Do you get to meet your donor or have any future contact with them? Since you get a full family history would you be informed if anything change in the future with their health? I'm now beginning to think this is the best way to know all about the donor, before I never liked the idea of knowing too much. Fingers crossed things move quickly for you.

Too Excited-So sorry to hear your news. So are you trying IVF after you've had two periods, do you automatically get an appointment sent out? Have you any holidays coming up to get away and relax for a bit? Your mind will be all over the place, we all wish to be pregnant but to loose a baby when it's so wanted must be awful. Thinking of you xx
 
TooExcited I'm so sorry to hear of your loss. It IS a good thing that you can get preggers. are they going to do any karyotype testing on you to ensure it's not a fragileX/MTHFKR/clotting issue?
V2R I think each donor has the choice to mark off if they want future contact with the child once they turn 18. As well, we only get access to what the donor has divulged on the forms and through their health testing with the donor agency. Hopefully they've been honest.
I need some advice here:
Last night I bumped into a friend of mine who's having issues trying to find a man. She's frustrated that all of her friends are married and having kids and feels left out. I told her i feel very similar just in a different way with all of our friends' kids almost in their teens now. She suggested that women freeze their eggs in their 20's for future use and asked my why I don't ask my sister to donate? My sis would very likely have the same genetic issues as myself. And then jokingly I asked her if she felt like donating. She's my height, same hair colour, blue eyes instead of green, smart (environmental engineer), she didn't answer and I was thinking in the back of my head omg why haven't I thought of this already. She's absolutely gorgeous and about 7 years younger than myself. she's extremely professional and wouldn't be the type to go ...haha, those are my kids. She's very sensitive and would be the sort of person i trust. I also have another friend who's brill and a model, really tall, sensitive and very generous, why haven't I thought of asking her?

How does one ask another for their eggs. This is going to be the most uncomfortable thing I've ever done in my life. I have good relations with these ladies but we're not very close. I've known then for at least 10 years now, one I went to school with, one I lived with for 4 years. I see them a few times / year. It'd be so much less stressful than going the agency route and 1/3 of the financial burden.

Anyway, she suggested we get together for dinner or a movie some night and I'm going to follow up on that. My sister would never give me eggs, she's had a hard time even just with sex, she doesn't want children and doesn't have a boyfriend at 35, and knowing that she's likely to have premature ovarian failure as well gifted genetically from my mom, I just can't ask her. How do I explain this to these 2 ladies who I'm going to ask for eggs, that my sis even has a hard time with sex? That I'd prefer to put them through an uncomfortable thing than my sister? Never mind the likelyhood of failure. I don't know, it just feels SO weird.
 
Hi 2Have - I personally would not ask my sister even though her hubby just looks at her to fall pregnant (she has 3 kids) the reason being she would have to go through IVF injections etc & I don't think it would be fair to ask her to do that for me. Asking a friend would be a NO NO for me I dont trust any of my friends enough to not go about telling everyone what they had done for me & I would feel I owe them for doing it also if they did have any involvement in the child I think I would feel jealous. Maybe this sounds silly but I would feel my partner had had an affair with my friend to give me a child!!
It's strange when I was younger I thought I never wanted kids & always had it in my head if anyone ever struggled to have a baby I would donate my eggs. Never in a million years did I think I would be the one struggling!!

I think you should really think about this before asking her & also discuss it with your partner. Also remember she would have to go through testing before being considered for donating her eggs. It is alot to ask someone.

Wish life was easy. I'm 34 this year and feel the clock is ticking! If IVF fails for me I will be looking into adoption the pain I feel for not to hold my own child is horrible but maybe I could make a home for a child who'z had a bad start to life. Would you not consider adoption? xx
 
Hi V2R, I did follow your advice and asked my partner. He knows the 2 ladies that I would like to ask, they're not close friends of ours and they are both really sensitive people. At the same time, ironically, we've have had another close friend tell us she'd be happy to donate her eggs and this is exactly type of friend who I feel you're talking about. I don't trust her, she's promiscuous and loose with her morals, she's not sensitive, she's not professional or really sharp and it would bring about all sorts of weird feelings and potential comments about how the baby looks like her etc.

But the two ladies who I am considering are kind of removed from my life but very very scientific, logical, professional people who I'd completely not have weird feelings about and know they wouldn't make stupid comments. My OH's reaction to both was exactly that, well at least they're the type to not look at our kids sideways or make dumb comments. He said he could have any discussion with the lady I bumped into and am considering and it's like speaking to a colleague, she's very down to earth, not moody or emotionally charged.

About adoption, this will be our last resort. I really want to be a mom and it's almost double the cost of donor eggs so really unattainable for us unless we sell our rental property. I would always be worried about the mother's nutrition and if they drank or took drugs while pregnant. They've linked SO many illnesses with gestational malnutrition in the past 5 years that it scares the heck out of me to junp in blind. For example, some things I've recently found out...
lack of iron=ADHD, learning disabilities, developmental problems (iron transports oxygen, they now know a lack of iron/vegetarian diet has huge impacts on the long term health of the fetus)
over/under eating=direct links to obesity in child, lifelong issues
high sugar, chronic candida, bad gut bacteria/lack of probiotic good gut flora=severe allergies and other irritation conditions

At least by carrying, I have a little more control over my health. My girlfriend has terrible nutrition and had low iron all throughout her pregnancy. Both of her babies are now grown and in school and have been diagnosed with severe learning disabilities. Her eldest was a year late with learning to speak and threw temper tantrums & started biting other kids in her nursury out of frustration from not being able to communicate. Her doctor tried to get her to take liquid iron with her second pregnancy but she complained about it. I know anything can happen, in fact it could be worse with our own kids (it's a crap shoot!) ie with autism etc but I'd like to have a hand in growing my babies...
 
Hi 2have, If it feels right to you and your partner you go for it, you have nothing to loose asking your friend, you probably should take some leaflets for her to look over if she does say yes and make sure she does plenty of research. Probably just bring it up in mid conversation ask how she feels about egg donation, everyones views are different as at one point we would never have thought we would have to consider egg donation to have a baby. Good luck let me know how you get on. Oh also would you have to speak to your clinic about your thoughts of asking this women?

I dont know how adoption works in Scotland all I know is I'm not allowed to at the moment as I'm going through IVF, so this will be a last resort for us! I know what you mean about the background of the child it would worry me what lasting effects a drug child would have but at the end of the day they do deserve a second chance in life.
 

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