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Congrats to those expecting again!

We think we will be having a second, but not sure when. I just got a 3 month refill on BCP, so at least that long :haha:

When Lucina was born, the doctor told me I had a heart-shaped uterus during the c-section. I just had an HSG done last month, and... nope. It is normal. Turns out some doctors will lie to you about it to scare you out of trying for a VBAC. Luckily I've moved (we built a new house in another state), and Im now very close to an amazing hospital and doctor.

Good on you for getting another opinion:thumbup: you'd be amazed at some things people are told to 'encourage' another c-section! My VBAC was a very healing, positive experience which I will be forever thankful for. Good luck with everything :flower:
 
Congrats to those expecting again!

We think we will be having a second, but not sure when. I just got a 3 month refill on BCP, so at least that long :haha:

When Lucina was born, the doctor told me I had a heart-shaped uterus during the c-section. I just had an HSG done last month, and... nope. It is normal. Turns out some doctors will lie to you about it to scare you out of trying for a VBAC. Luckily I've moved (we built a new house in another state), and Im now very close to an amazing hospital and doctor.

congrats on the house, Im delighted you got a second opinion x
 
3boys & countrybride congrats on your pregnancies. 3boys hang in there!

Congrats on the new house Gingerpanda & good on you for not letting a doctor persude you to do another section out of fear. You know in the states they don't even train the majority of doctors now in breach deliveries? I chose a hospital and group of doctors that specialize in breach deliveries for my twins. They were both head down right up to the birth in Jan and when the first exited, the second decided to party with all the new found space. I guess it's quite typical of twins. The doc took 17 min to get twin 2 out and from what the nurses told me 90% of other doctors would have rushed me for a section when it got a little hairy (the cord of #2 also prolapsed and he couldn't turn her and had a hard time grasping her leg to pull her out). Anyways, if you get a well trained doctor they are simply more comfortable and experienced in high risk situation, which a vbac may be.

I have no plans for more babies. We have to get 2-3 babysitters for date nights now as our 21 montg old almost requires a person to herself and the twins now 6 months old always want to be held. In Canada they've provides us with respite ladies that come and take care of the twins twice/week for 3 hours each free of charge. It's a wonderful volunteer program. The one lady had a real colicky baby (25 years ago) and absolutely cherishes holding and snuggling the girls. She couldn't hold her own daughter without being screamed at 24/7 and so appreciates the time with the girls. It's also hard to save for their university and a fourth would just throw the savings plan into a tail spin. So we're done!
Are your 21 month old babies talking yet? MacKinley's first string of words were 'I rov nuuu' when I sang skinamarink-y-dink-y-dink to hee a few months ago. Was very sweet!
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Yes, I had to have a c-section with Lucina because she was breech. It wasn't even an option. And the HSG test I had done just to find out a doctor lied to me was $1250 out of pocket. :dohh:

She doesn't talk as much as I would like her to. She says several words, but mostly she still just babbles. She definitely understands everything we say, though.
 
nathan also understands everything and has a few words! some of them are quite strange but i guess that comes with having older siblings teach you! He likes to run around the house shouting "america" we live in Ireland
 
Yes, I had to have a c-section with Lucina because she was breech. It wasn't even an option. And the HSG test I had done just to find out a doctor lied to me was $1250 out of pocket. :dohh:

She doesn't talk as much as I would like her to. She says several words, but mostly she still just babbles. She definitely understands everything we say, though.
Were you struggling with infertility to have her do an hsg test? That's terribly expensive, does that mean in the States you pay a monthly premium for health care plus all sorts of 'extras' that aren't covered? I pay about $35/month with my company for premiums and everything except for 20% of drugs are covered. My friend lives in Florida and said she paid $7000 for the best healthcare plan last year so she could have her baby in a hospital. I was pretty horrified. Her baby was breach so what would happen if she didn't pay that money and needed to deliver in a hospital? She has no house or car, no assetts to sell or leverage. I just don't understand why Anericans, especially women, continue voting for a party that wants to take their universal healthcare away??
 
Yes, I had to have a c-section with Lucina because she was breech. It wasn't even an option. And the HSG test I had done just to find out a doctor lied to me was $1250 out of pocket. :dohh:

She doesn't talk as much as I would like her to. She says several words, but mostly she still just babbles. She definitely understands everything we say, though.
Were you struggling with infertility to have her do an hsg test? That's terribly expensive, does that mean in the States you pay a monthly premium for health care plus all sorts of 'extras' that aren't covered? I pay about $35/month with my company for premiums and everything except for 20% of drugs are covered. My friend lives in Florida and said she paid $7000 for the best healthcare plan last year so she could have her baby in a hospital. I was pretty horrified. Her baby was breach so what would happen if she didn't pay that money and needed to deliver in a hospital? She has no house or car, no assetts to sell or leverage. I just don't understand why Anericans, especially women, continue voting for a party that wants to take their universal healthcare away??

I did have other fertility issues that made getting pregnant difficult before, but those are all worked out. We literally only had this test because the old doctor told me I had a bicornuate uterus, and my new doctor wanted to know exactly what we were dealing with in case I wanted to get pregnant again later.

Girl, don't get me started on the state of healthcare in the US. It drives me crazy. The way it works here is you spend hundreds of dollars a month on insurance premiums, and they cover a certain percentage of certain things. Things having to do with fertility are rarely covered at all. Then you have to pay the rest.

Healthcare is more expensive here, so Lucina's birth and NICU stay was more than $100,000 before insurance. After insurance, we owed almost $10,000 out of pocket. The hospital will let you set up a payment plan woth them, and you just pay them some every month. Like a car.

Every year I vote for candidates pushing universal healthcare. We shouldn't be dying because we can't afford tens of thousands of dollars for treatment that shouldn't even cost that much in the first place.
 
Oh my goodness that's horrific! You'd want to have twins back to back with that expensive a hospital stay! But they'd probably jack the price seeing that twin pregnancies/births are *special*:gun::grr:
 
Ladies I can't believe we are planning for birthday #2! My lil man has a personality on him!! Lol, he is a jokester, fearless (for the most part lol) but he is sooo sweet. All of his teeth are in, he naps one time a day and for the most part he sleeps through the night. Baby #2... we aren't planning nor preventing lol. I hope to find a new job before #2. Hope everyone is doing well!
 
We've started actively trying for #2. Exciting!

I can't believe our little monkeys are coming up to 2 soon! It's crazy to think it was 2 years ago that I was pregnant with Oliver!
 
Happy 2nd birthday planning everybody! We're so busy with both our little toddler and our 6 month old twins and there's never a dull moment! She still has lots of work to do in the learning-to-share department but she's a great big sister. I just bought fabulous tulle & feather dresses for their first birthday as zulili has great sales this weekend and we're busy planning MacKinley's 2nd birthday bash. Just after she turns 2 we're booked on a trip to mexico. We're just in the process of asking a babysotter to come with us all expenses paid as I think it'll be a little hairy travelling with a toddler and two babies. Should be interesting!
 
Universal healthcare would be amazing. It's just so damn expensive. We met our son's out of pocket around May after his MRI. I swear we just kept getting separate bills in the mail. That one was about 1500 total. One of the small bills went to collections because we just slipped up with all the other crap. On the other hand, we've been able to do other tests for him to figure out these stupid seizures and it's all on insurance now. He turned 2 on the 29th of September. How were and are the 2nd bday parties?? It's so crazy. I swear the past month he's been on this learning craze. Such a fun time :) I can't imagine having another kid right now. How are you ladies doing it?! We are on the fence, but if we do it'll be in a few years.
 
Universal healthcare would be amazing. It's just so damn expensive. We met our son's out of pocket around May after his MRI. I swear we just kept getting separate bills in the mail. That one was about 1500 total. One of the small bills went to collections because we just slipped up with all the other crap. On the other hand, we've been able to do other tests for him to figure out these stupid seizures and it's all on insurance now. He turned 2 on the 29th of September. How were and are the 2nd bday parties?? It's so crazy. I swear the past month he's been on this learning craze. Such a fun time :) I can't imagine having another kid right now. How are you ladies doing it?! We are on the fence, but if we do it'll be in a few years.
Oh wow sounds so expensive. My little fella turned two on September 10 we were on holiday so he just had a cake with his older siblings. We are counting down days to next baby. Should be here in about two weeks time so lots of excitement. Definitely my last pregnancy and I'm really looking forward to not being pregnant lol
 
Universal healthcare would be amazing. It's just so damn expensive. We met our son's out of pocket around May after his MRI. I swear we just kept getting separate bills in the mail. That one was about 1500 total. One of the small bills went to collections because we just slipped up with all the other crap. On the other hand, we've been able to do other tests for him to figure out these stupid seizures and it's all on insurance now. He turned 2 on the 29th of September. How were and are the 2nd bday parties?? It's so crazy. I swear the past month he's been on this learning craze. Such a fun time :) I can't imagine having another kid right now. How are you ladies doing it?! We are on the fence, but if we do it'll be in a few years.

Oh, let me reassure you, you REALLY are not on universal healthcare if you're paying that much. The United States has soooo very much to learn about private vs real universal healthcare. At a few years in you're just calling a recently rolled over private system universal and have yet to experience any benefits, especially in how the Repubs fashioned the caveats to the bill. But no one can understand unless they benefit from a robust, full universal system. What the USA has is medicade which is private mixed with some public funding which they've called 'universal' but operationally is bery different than Common Wealth and European systems. It's almost as if they wish to give universal healthcare the dirty 'socialist' spin to put people off and from many accounts it's completely fooled people. Our systems are nothing alike. We'd never pay a dime for an infant/child/adult mri like that, it's completely covered here in Canada. And depending on the need you'd likely be jetted to the front if the line with your baby's needs. I'm so sorry to hear you're dealing with this AND outrageous bills for diagnostic healthcare. That's completely 3rd world and unfair.
 

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