33yr ttc#2 - buddies needed!!!

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Rics, I took epo for two cycles. The first cycle I o'd early. I think it was around cd15 or cd16 I don't remember but I don't usually O til cd18-24 so I was happy with an early O lol the second month I o'd later around cd28ish so I didn't take it anymore after that. Good luck! I hope you o earlier this time!

Meek, I would say you have o'd too. Good luck!

Curious, good luck!

Citrus and ladders, my nausea seems to be going away? I'll be a little nauseous in the morning but it usually eases up after about an hour or so. I never got morning sickness with my first three. I only had it with the one I lost so I'm actually hoping the ms stays away. I have headaches and pee every 30 minutes and my boob's are getting huge! They hurt so bad and have already grown a full cup size! I haven't gained any weight yet so I'm not sure where it's coming from lol but dh likes it lol

Happycupcake, I hope you get to O soon and the progesterone works and you get a sticky baby! ❤

Thank you ladies! I'm very happy I got to see pebble and can't wait for the next appointment in 4 weeks.
 
Thanks Kim! I hope I do ov sooner as it's normally around cd21! I think I use a cheap opk each day just incase!!
 
Kim thanks <3 I don't know if I will use the progesterone. I feel like something is telling me to avoid it. Like an intuition thing rather than a fear/anxiety thing. I feel like my acupuncturist may be right and I should let my body do what it has to and that I should treat this as naturally as possible. I'm armed with prenatal multivitamins, pumpkin seeds, Brazil nuts, almonds and probiotic yoghurts. Googling this constantly is only making me more anxious because I keep seeing new potential problems like blood/immune disorders that whilst I show some symptoms of, the symptoms are the same as low progesterone as well, and also the same as being dehydrated and diet... so all I'm doing is scaring myself stupid! Instead, I'm sticking to focusing acupuncture on anxiety and I will meditate each day, and try some hypnotherapy for anxiety as well. I think, if I have the energy I will try yoga as well since that's always good for you in any situation. Possibly tai chi, we will see.
OPK was a little darker this evening, so I think I will see a positive soon.

Rics, I would do a couple each day, possibly three if you have cheap dipsticks since I find it best to test with fmu, late afternoon and evening about 9pm ish. Haven't missed a single surge that way :)
 
Cupcake you are so lucky you ovulate so early! Isn't it only CD9 for you?
 
I'm not very good at replying, but I've been keeping track! My very first temping chart tells me I ovulated on Sunday so I'm in the 2ww again. I ovulated on CD24 which is early for me, it's usually past cd30! I puy a link to my chart in my sig, does anyone used to charting think it looks normal??
 
Sander said:
Cupcake you are so lucky you ovulate so early! Isn't it only CD9 for you?
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I do tend to ovulate a little earlier than the average, yes. Usually CD11 or CD12, but it has been as early as CD10 and also later at CD14 before. I know ovulating early seems preferable, but that can come with its own issues. If you ovulate too early, the chances of you releasing a mature egg is minimal. So I would prefer to ovulate CD12 earliest tbh, as then I can be relatively confident (I hope!) that the egg isn't too immature.
It means shorter cycles, which obviously do seem preferable because if it doesn't happen that cycle there isn't long until your next cycle, but it's definitely better to ovulate a little later than too early :)

SadakoS said:
I'm not very good at replying, but I've been keeping track! My very first temping chart tells me I ovulated on Sunday so I'm in the 2ww again. I ovulated on CD24 which is early for me, it's usually past cd30! I puy a link to my chart in my sig, does anyone used to charting think it looks normal??
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Firstly, may I ask why you discarded a couple of temps at the start? Are you temping orally or vaginally? I think your chart looks fine, the only thing is the start looks quite high. Higher than average until you get to CD20. Ideal follicular temps if temping orally at least, should be around 36.4 or lower, with the exception of during af, as these can go a little nuts. It doesn't automatically mean there's a problem of course! I don't actually think it does in your case as your luteal phase temps are beautiful, but keep an eye on it and if they persist in being high during the follicular phase, perhaps ask a professional their opinion as they will be able to give you far more insight than I could. Remember though that I'm basing that on averages, and everyone is different so people's individual averages will differ from person to person
 
Vaginally. I discarded them because they were exactly the same both days and lower than the the rest after that, so to be honest I think I hadn't done it properly. I had trouble at first hearing it beep as the white noise in my daughters room comes through the monitor so I've started turning that off so I can hear the beeps and I'm more confident they're right now. Thanks for looking, I have no idea what I'm doing really!
 
Ah so that would explain why they are higher then! After having temped orally for ages and switching vaginally this cycle I have seen a huge difference in temps. Although they do seem to be more level.
Orally those lower discarded temps would have made sense but vaginally I agree with you, they look too low, but I do only have my own chart to go by
 
Sadako, your chart looks clear and normal to me. Generally the wisdom is don't discard temps unless you're very very sure there's a reason for them to be off. I used to want my charts to be prettier but now I just let FF figure it out. It's pretty good.
 
Curious, I know a dip always makes you feel down because temps generally do this right before af BUT I have seen loads of pregnancy charts do the same and around the same time as well. I wouldn't worry too much, your temps are still so high, well above the cover line! They could easily increase tomorrow! Are you waiting until after tomorrow to test if af doesn't show?

CD10, a little ewcm and a shade darker OPK with fmu, but I wouldn't expect a positive with fmu so much anyway. So far have BD every other day from CD6, but intend on daily from today until Monday at least. May attempt another later today at some point.
I have been meditating as well, which has been helpful in relaxing. The stress hormone cortisol can knock out any progesterone so I reckon this is hugely why people are unsuccessful in conceiving when they are stressed out and why so many see pregnancy happen when they don't remember to try, as in keeping track of everything and making sure they plan BD out and all that.
Have altered diet a little, adding probiotic yoghurts, Brazil nuts, pumpkin seeds and almonds to it, leaving out the salted nuts (I'm a sucker for these). Have also started using my MeLuna soft cup today. Using Preseed this cycle and this one doesn't make me sting when I use it! First lube I have found comfortable!
Temp went up today as it usually does around this time, expecting a dip tomorrow then another increase, as this is how it usually seems to happen, alongside a positive OPK.
Still don't know whether I should try progesterone pessaries or aspirin... I don't know. I think I will leave the progesterone. The aspirin I don't know... I don't like the fact I bruise easily and it's a blood thinner, and I don't like that it's a NSAID as I usually avoid these since they can irritate your stomach.
I don't have any known blood issues. I do suffer with migraines sometimes with visual disturbances (can be a sign of hormonal imbalance). I don't know how safe a low dose (75mg) of aspirin is? I also have read contradicting information online regarding use of aspirin for fertility purposes - some say take it every day from CD1 onwards, some say don't use it until you see a positive test. The reason for this is because it can interfere with implantation, but I have also heard taking it before can help provide a more friendly environment by making the lining less sticky and easier for a fertilised egg to implant. So I don't know. If anyone has any ideas, please say lol
 
Thanks cupcake, you're totally right. How emotional this is making me feel makes me feel like AF is definitely on her way but I guess we will see. Yeah, I'm going to wait. If AF doesn't start tomorrow, I'll test on Saturday.
 
Being emotional, more so than usual, can be a sign of pregnancy or af. It is so hard to tell the difference! Do you usually suffer with PMS? Or, do you find you become more emotional usually right before af? If you don't, then it could be a sign more so of pregnancy than impending af.
I hope af stays away and your temps increase tomorrow :)

In fact, looking at your charts and comparing them, this cycle they look more stable and keeping increased than the cycle before. Also, your temps started to decrease the cycle before earlier in the cycle by a few days. This cycle they have stayed elevated for longer, I would say that's a good sign. I'm keeping everything crossed for you
 
Thanks! That's definitely true, I think my chart looks much more positive than last cycle so there's something.

It's not uncommon for me to be extra emotional right before AF so that's not great. But yes, it's so unfair that early pregnancy and PMS symptoms are just the same. Who came up with this system?!?!?
 
curious I hope af doesn't come!! I thought if it fell below cover line then af would come but yours are still very high!!!

cupcake meditating sounds ike a great idea and I agree with you less stress definitely helps with ttc as I was stressing so much with my 3rd baby and when I stopped thinking about it bam I was pregnant! took 8months to conceive her!
 
Rics, I know that's the general wisdom, temp falls with AF, but I've had both. This was my January chart before we were TTC. So idk. I want to be positive.
 

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But even with that, this cycle's chart is looking much more stable, it's a lot less up and down
 
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