35 and over and ltttc for baby #2 for over 2.5yrs!

[Destiny08]

Cookie - It was tough. Especially as DH and I are agnostic, so not 100% sure what we believe religion wise. so i couldnt tell her that Grandad's in heaven watching over her etc, so i couldnt even give her that!

Tommyg & cookie - I've really only written this cycle off because I've decided as I'll be starting the clearblue trial and will hit the 2 year mark next month, I'm not temping or taking opks or 'trying' really. I've also been put back onto my anti depressants lately, so I'm taking a step back from TTC and allowing myself to be negative about this one cycle, before throwing myself headfirst into it again next cycle If i write it off, then there's no disappointment when it inevitably ends up as another failed cycle! The only reason I'm contemplating asking to go on the pill is in an attempt to even out my cycles a bit. They're anywhere from 19-69 days so I'd just like some kind of regularity. though ofc I'm reluctant because it could also make things worse. I'll be speaking to my GP about it and aiming to be assessed for Pcos, or referred to a gyni or RE or put on the pill. Because something isnt right! and I'd like to know what, but I dont get a huge amount of help onthe NHS as I already have DD.

AFM - on CD 17 now...no idea if I've O'd or not. I had a bit of EWCM 2 days ago, but genuinely no clue. I'll check my temp around day 30 if AF hasnt showed just to see if i have O'd or not. but really trying to relax a bit this cycle!

 

[Cookie1979]

Tommy - good to know I definitely ovulated, googling is confusing because I dont know if I'm looking at american answers or english. Its really difficult when it comes to death and explaining it to a child that cannot fully understand. I sometimes wonder if he thinks heaven is another country or something. He probably has the best understanding from films, like The Lion King, he'll say Simba's dad is dead and a while back he kept lying down and saying I'm dead - I blame Disney films. You certainly can't shield them from it. Oh ewcm is a great sign, I tend to find its my best sign, I dont bother with charting or opks anymore, ewcm is enough for me. Do you chart or use opks? Fingers crossed it means you are ovulating or about to. xx

Destiny - we aren't religious either, I dont know what happens when you die but I like to think we go on to a better place. Just before my mum died we had some stuff happen in the house and I strongly felt like my Nan was there, its only the 2nd time I have felt her presence in 20 years (she died when I was young - my mum and her both and genetic mutations). Anyway at the time I thought she was there to keep an eye on my mum, but now I know that she came to get her. That's why I believe that there is more than we see around us, and I'd like to believe one day I'll see my Mum again. I tell my son there is a heaven, maybe its not heaven, maybe there is nothing, but I believe there is more and calling it heaven is just easier. My hubby really is not religious in the slightest but doesn't seem to mind me saying heaven...probably thinks best to stay out of it, as I'd bite his head off. I have PCOS, do you have any symptoms apart from irregular cycles? I have a little excess hair (but realised compared to most its not much at all), I've got acne, I struggle with my weight and as soon as I gain weight my cycles become really irregular. I've lost 2 and a half stone and I've been having pretty regular cycles for a while, they aren't regular to the day, they tend to vary between 31 and 35 days, I ovulate every cycle. I've got a scan beginning of next month so will find out how bad my cysts are, apart from a scan when I miscarried (before I was pregnant with my son) and scans while I was pregnant I've not had any since diagnosis so I'd be interested to find out how my ovaries look. I ovulate every cycle so I figure they can't be that bad. Here's hoping. xx

AFM - Not alot going on with me, got my HSG next wednesday and my MMR next Friday, then once this cycle is done with we can start trying again. By the time the month after the MMR is done I'll be into the next cycle but should be around cd 4/5 and I dont ovulate til around cd 20 so will be fine. Roll on next cycle, I'm eager to get started again. x

 

[biostat]

Hi all!

Wondering if I can join you, as I would love some ladies to chat with about this stuff.

My story is:
#1 born Dec 2012. Got a Mirena placed shortly afterward (very painful) but could never find the strings. Got an ultrasound when my periods returned a year later and the Mirena was gone - doc figured it was expelled. We started TTC #2 April 2014 with no luck. Then OPKs in Dec showed no ovulation. Turned out, my Mirena had perforated my uterus and travelled outside, just hanging out in my pelvis somewhere. Had to have it surgically removed in late February (during AF). We TTC that cycle but just got AF yesterday.

Feeling depressed. I know that there shouldn't be any impediments to pregnancy now, but it's frustrating to feel like almost a year of trying was for nought, and we're just starting from scratch!!!

Advice on keeping it together for the long haul? How big a deal is the age gap?

 

[Srbjbex]

Hi Biostat, welcome to the thread. Your story is really different to most people here, I've never heard of that before, and I'm glad its all sorted for you. Don't be too hard yourself, I'm sure your body will need time to adjust from the surgery etc. Most ladies of here have been TTC#2 for 2+ years so we certainly know what its like to want to have another child. My only advice is to not obsess about age gap. did for a long time and I was getting really upset. Once I let that go and was content with accepting a larger gap than I wanted, it became a lot easier.

Cookie - bet you can't wait to get started again, hopefully your body will be raring to go now after your break!

Destiny - I never seem to get much EWCM either way - its not a good ov sign for me, I'm better with Opks and/or temps. but it all is a bit of an inxact science - do you use fertility friend at all? I find it useful or tracking where I am in my cycle.

Hello everyone else! I'm on CD 8 today and this for some reason is feeling like a very long tww! maybe because its my last cycle before we start on the official ivf route.

 

[tommyg]

Wish how are yo dining not seen you in a while?

Orchard good luck with the clinic tomorrow. Safe drive.

Destiny my sure give away that I've ovulated is my boobs start to get tender increasing until just before AF

Cookie not long until you can get the show on the road. Hope all goes well next week.

Biostat you have a very different story to most of us who have been trying for a long time, and tbh while a year seems a long time really it's not, esp to those who are ageing by the day and going down the road of treatments after TTC for over 3 years, you know what the problem was and it has been fixed it should happen fairly easily for you.

Bex hope this is your lucky cycle and you don't need IVF.

AFM fairly sure I've ovulated wish I'd discovered Spearmint tea years ago. However should be on a IUI cycle next month if it doesn't work.

 

[Destiny08]

cookie - other than irregular cycles...not really. i do and always have had a little extra hair...but I have a perfectly normal BMI. I only get spots around AF. my bigger fear is that something went wrong when i was having DD, as medical care wasnt good at all. and that they screwed something up that's messing with my fertility now.

AFM- had some more EWCM yesterday..so going to assume AF is due in around 2 weeks. which would make this a cycle around 34 days, which isnt so bad! not doing too much DTD atm though, as DH has a lot of stress with starting a new job etc, and he's sleeping alot!

 

[tommyg]

Orchard how did you get on today? What CD are you?

 

[WhiteOrchid24]

Hi ladies!

Sorry I haven't been updating more - I've just had a lot going on and have been updating my journal a bit more. I hope you are all ok. Anyone ready to test?

Tommy - all ok today.... I'm on CD12. Feeling a little down as just home and looked at my online portal for the clinic and out of all of the follies 1 is 16mm but the other 2 that are following behind are only 12.4 and 11.1 so clearly they won't come to anything. It just feels like such a waste of injecting myself.... I basically have the same results as I had last month but this month I will have given myself 5 shots of puregon (50 iu) which sucks not to mention the meds alone cost almost $400...

I know obviously you only need 1 good sized follicle but I just feel like what was the point of the injections as they seem to have done nothing.... I have to start with OPKs tomorrow and continue til I get my surge and then also go for blood on Monday morning again (they did a blood test today but as expecting so surge). I expect I will surge on CD14 but at this point I'm kind of hoping it doesn't happen til CD15 to try and give at least 1 of the 2nd follicles a better chance...

Anyway next trip is for the IUI so FX! Have to run for now - will update again later if I can but hello to you all and big hugs

 

[Cookie1979]

Tommy - is spearmint tea supposed to help then? Maybe I should try it, not only am I supposed to cut out caffeine but isn't spearmint good for ibs, or is that peppermint? Good news that you've ovulated. X

Destiny- did you have a c section or natural birth? I'm sure nothing went wrong but totally understand why you'd worry. A lot of the time with secondary infertility there is nothing wrong, which makes it all the more difficult. Pcos can be mild for some but I wouldn't say you have it from what you have said but at the same time some can have the cysts with not many symptoms due to testosterone levels not being high. If you think it is a possibility then get it checked out, even if it's just to rule it out.

Orchid - I don't really know about follicles etc but really keeping my fingers crossed that this iui works and you get your bfp. Keep your chin up and try and think positive. Will keep everything crossed for you.

Afm - not a great weekend, got a poorly boy again, which in most a cold isn't a problem but usually it turns into a wheeze. He's had a terrible cough but luckily not wheezing, I've been giving him tons of his inhaler to fight it off. I've caught it and feel yuk as well, that combined with lack of sleep has made me feel rough. Yesterday got a letter through saying they've had to rearrange my next fertility appointment and its been moved from June 2nd to June 23rd. I thought about ringing and seeing if I can get it sooner but then thought with trying on hold there's prob not much point. If I can get some cycles in before we go back then she might be more willing to help.

My reflexologist said that I might get a heavier period as she worked on my period, it's been fairly normal until yesterday when on day 5 went heavier with lots of little clots. Don't know if it was the reflexology but definitely unusual to be like that on day 5.

Hope everyone is having a good weekend. Xx

 

[tommyg]

Orchard it does seem a waste when you haven't got any more follicales than you did last month (or you probably get on a natural cycle) however as you say all you need is one, fingers and toes crossed it contains the one magic bean that you need.

Cookie, I'm not sure what else spearmint is meant to do for you but it supposedly reduces the male hormones in your body. Given I've tried Soy, and acupuncture neither of which did anything for me I have decided that mint tea has to be worth a go. It is also acting as a coffee substitute for me so it could be the no caffine that is helping too.
Fantastic the reflexology appears to be doing something for you. Good luck.

 

[Cookie1979]

Tommy - think I'll try spearmint tea myself then, see if it helps. x

 

[Srbjbex]

Afternoon every one! 11dpo for me and bfn. Out if character for me to test I know but last month's brief hope was horrible so I wanted to put it to rest this month and start looking forward to my kick off appointment on saturday. Af due either tomorrow or Wednesday. If last cycle is one to go by it will be Wednesday. If no AF by then I will test again so I don't spend the day with the false hope creeping in again .

Orchid - im keeping everything crossed for you this cycle. Whilst I absolutely dont want you to have to do any more...do you know how many cycles of IUI you will try? Will you eventually move onto IVF/ICSI if you have to?

Tommy - is spearmint tea much different to peppermint tea or do you think they are both good? I drink peppermint tea quite a bit...especially when I'm on one of my 500 calorie days!

 

[WhiteOrchid24]

Sorry about the BFN Bex but without giving you false hope it is still early if it's only 11dpo... I understand the testing - sometimes it's better to just know rather than getting that hope right up and thinking it's worked FX for a no-show AF and a BFP in a few days!

The Dr advised we try 3 cycles of IUI and if they don't work move onto IVF with ICSI so we will see. I suspect if this cycle fails then I'll give myself a break next month as I'm finding it quite hard, especially with all of the driving to the clinic. FX though that it works this month and I don't have to worry about that!!

So I just had a positive OPK so waiting to hear back from the clinic but means we'll be back there tomorrow for the IUI. As usual things NEVER work quite the way you want and I was really REALLY hoping I wouldn't surge til tomorrow so give that 2nd follicle a better chance of growing but I guess it just isn't to be... Why does that always happen. And of course DS has preschool tomorrow so it makes going down so much more complicated.. Oh well! Must stay optimistic and positive! My bbs have been super sensitive yesterday and today so I'm not surprised I had my surge esp since I've also been getting EWCM which started last night.

Anyway I'm asking you to keep your fingers crossed that all goes well tomorrow! It would just be so amazing if it would work this cycle!

I hope you are all well

 

[Srbjbex]

Thanks for the kind words orchid I do appreciate it! And I have absolutely everything crossed for you tomorrow...sending fertile thought s your way!!!

 

[Srbjbex]

And bang on cue AF shows up! Completely expected so can't complain but isn't it funny how it still makes you miserable...even after all this time!

 

[Wish4another1]

bex - sorry about that stupid I know it stinks even when you know she is coming... onwards and upwards!!! give your yourself some treats this week and good luck on your next cycle!! Hope its the ONE!

Orchid - How did it go today???? was hubbies swimmers ok? do they even tell you the details at your clinic?? My FX that this is the very last time you have to do this!!!

tommy - I've been hearing/reading quite a bit about this spearmint tea! It looks like it is doing great things for you!!! FX this is a short cycle - and even hoping that this is your BFP cycle!!! then you don't need no stinking IUI!!!

cookie - sorry to hear your boy is sick - is he better now?? I hope so! and I hope you are feeling better too - nothing worse than mom being sick!!

to everyone else!!
AFM: 6 more days of birth control pills... all bleeding has stopped for the last 2 weeks!!! WHAT???? I know I know... miracles happen apparently... I have been reading BnB but not feeling like posting much... not really much to tell you know??
I am just hoping that when I do stop the pills this weekend ...aunt flo waits until Tuesday to show up - Monday is my wedding anniversary!!!
Getting back into running - my weight loss has NOT been going well - so I am trying to cut those calories without going back on that strict diet... ran 6 miles last night after work - felt amazing... gonna run again tonight... really girls - holding out all my hope for you all - I'm just muddling along!!

 

[tommyg]

Bex. Sorry the witch got you. Better luck next cycle.

Orchard was your IUI today?? Did it go ok?? Please let your 2ww end on a happy note - it will be about time. We need a BFP sticky bean on here.

Wish lovely to hear from you. You must be the fittest women on the thread. Not long until you can start trying again. Happy Anniversary when it comes how long are you married?

Cookie how is your boy doing?

AFM The 2 cups of spearmint tea I'm still keeping going with it. It is something in the spearmint rather than peppermint is suppost to reduce the male testosterone hormones I came across a study then as I googled I found lots of people have tried it. Decided it had to be worth a go. I'm about 6 dpo and fingers crossed for this cycle.

 

[Cookie1979]

Hey ladies

Ah Bex sorry to hear af arrived, doesn't matter how long you've been trying or how much you tell yourself you are out, when af arrives it frickin hurts! You think it will get easier, but the let down doesn't really, because no matter how long we try for, we always have hope. After all if we didn't have hope we wouldn't keep trying. xx

Wish - well done on the running, thats one thing I can't do, can't run at all. I do need to exercise though, I'm dieting and have been for over a year...not that its been going well recently, not gaining but not really losing. I'd love to lose another 7 lbs by my birthday which is May 1st. Got to stop letting the weekends go bad, I end up eating things I shouldn't at weekend then spend the rest of the week undoing it, so then never really get anywhere. No more bad weekends from now til my bday!!

Orchid - did you go and have the IUI? Fingers crossed for you.

Tommy - I had a look in Tesco and they didn't have Spearmint, but then thats not surprising, I'll have a look in Holland and Barrett when I next go into town. I did however find a nice decaf tea, actually tastes as good as normal tea so I'm on the road to being caffeine free...well almost, I forgot to bring my teabags to work and tea is my medicine when I'm poorly, so I can't not have tea. Will buy another box to keep at work so I don't forget it.

AFM - Well got my HSG today at 2pm, its at the hospital near my work, so I'm working in the office today (usually work from home on Wednesdays) so I can walk over, its about a 10 minute walk from work, but about a 45 minute drive from home, so figured the walk would be easier. My friends is at 2.20pm so might bump into her. My son is alright, has a nasty cough but its not on his chest, its more of an upper respitory infection, its taking its time going. Was really peed off when we took him to the hospital on Saturday, he's had at least 12 admittances, they have ranged from 2 nights to 5 nights, and he's always put on oxygen and nebulisers. So we go in, eventually an A&E doctor saw him and she was quite snotty asking why we brought him in, I tried to explain, she cut me off again asking why when he looks alright...I said he always looks alright, his sats can be low, he can be struggling but he'll still be playing and acting fine. I said look at his history, he's been admitted at least 12 times, THAT is why he is here. I'm not a doctor, I can't tell how bad he is...usually he's as bad as I think. She backtracked after that and said she'd go speak to a paediatric doctor due to his history. I'm not some paranoid mother who regularly takes her child to A&E for no reason, he has been in alot, its not just even like he's had this problem once or twice, he's 4 and he's had 12 admittances and countless more visits, and each time he's been on oxygen I think that's reason enough for me to be careful!! Grrrrr sorry rant over!!!

Contemplating starting yoga - not cheap though, you have to pay in advance and it works out to £7 a class. You pay a term at a time.

x

 

[IsaacRalph]

Sorry about the BFN Bex but without giving you false hope it is still early if it's only 11dpo... I understand the testing - sometimes it's better to just know rather than getting that hope right up and thinking it's worked FX for a no-show AF and a BFP in a few days!

The Dr advised we try 3 cycles of IUI and if they don't work move onto IVF with ICSI so we will see. I suspect if this cycle fails then I'll give myself a break next month as I'm finding it quite hard, especially with all of the driving to the clinic. FX though that it works this month and I don't have to worry about that!!

So I just had a positive OPK so waiting to hear back from the clinic but means we'll be back there tomorrow for the IUI. As usual things NEVER work quite the way you want and I was really REALLY hoping I wouldn't surge til tomorrow so give that 2nd follicle a better chance of growing but I guess it just isn't to be... Why does that always happen. And of course DS has preschool tomorrow so it makes going down so much more complicated.. Oh well! Must stay optimistic and positive! My bbs have been super sensitive yesterday and today so I'm not surprised I had my surge esp since I've also been getting EWCM which started last night.

Anyway I'm asking you to keep your fingers crossed that all goes well tomorrow! It would just be so amazing if it would work this cycle!

I hope you are all well

Hey orchid hope this cycle works put for you and yes all you need is just one follicle for it to work. How about asking the clinic to put you on buserilin(another injectable) if you have another attempt at iui this will stop you from ovulating/surging on your own giving the other follicles to catch up. I had it when I had iui with Edward and I had 3 mature follicles. Good luck for this cycle hun xx hi to all the others will catch up when I get a spare moment

 

[Cookie1979]

Back from my HSG - went ok, was fairly painful, she kept finding the dye ran out, then she turned the spectulum (I have no idea if thats the right word and I know its not the right spelling but you'll know what I mean) and then squirted more in and it was when she turned it and pushed it in more that it hurt. In the end she used 3 lots but she managed to see the dye and it showed that my womb looks ok and my tubes are clear. No pain now though, and pleased that my tubes are clear.

xx