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[2have4kids]

Jessmke I couldn't agree more. I truly believe all antivaxxer's need to be sent to live with polio & other preventable disease victims. It's only now that we don't see the horrific effects of polio on people crippled sitting begging for money in th streets that we don't believe in vaccinations.

 

[klsltsp]

Charlie

Hope you're doing well, and school is almost up right? and I think there is a 21 day incubation period for the measels, so hopefully that's almost over!!

I feel your concern, I don't have immunity for chicken pox, even though I've had the vaccine and booster about 8 years ago.. it just didn't "take" so to speak. My doctors told me that although my body wasn't showing the antibodies that since I'd had the vaccine I likely had enough to protect me. So hopefully it's the same with you!

Do you have a plan in place should one of your kids get the measels or if you were to be exposed? I know for chicken pox I had a plan since one of my sons' classmates got it when I was pregnant last time, the plan was that if my son got them then I was to get to the hospital within 76 hours of exposure and they would give me a transfusion of antibodies... not sure if there is something similar possible for measels.

Anyways good luck!

Kim

 

[StaceyM]

Yes my children are fully immunised, my mum swears i had mmr injection as a kid so i dont see why im not immune you would think if it doesn't last a lifetime they would top up so this sort of thing doesn't happen wouldnt you, thing is i have no1 to pick my children up from school for me so i have to go get them, if i had someone to pick my children up i wouldn't be worried, but i dont and Sod's law a kid with measles is going to sneeze on me or something lol hopefully not though, im going to get myself those dust masks and walk around with that on lol! Its so annoying but im hoping being as MOST people immunise their children that the measles cases dissapear fast!

You need to update your MMR every 10 years, so you are also not up to date with your vaccinations I'm kind of concerned that people are talking about anti-vaxers, but then don't keep track of their own vaccinations. I'm also surprised that so many people here seem not to know that you need multiple doses of quite a few vaccines in order to retain immunity... Sorry to sound judgmental, but the lack of awareness honestly surprises me. You can find this information very easily. Just ask your doctor.

 

[wishingonastar]

Yes my children are fully immunised, my mum swears i had mmr injection as a kid so i dont see why im not immune you would think if it doesn't last a lifetime they would top up so this sort of thing doesn't happen wouldnt you, thing is i have no1 to pick my children up from school for me so i have to go get them, if i had someone to pick my children up i wouldn't be worried, but i dont and Sod's law a kid with measles is going to sneeze on me or something lol hopefully not though, im going to get myself those dust masks and walk around with that on lol! Its so annoying but im hoping being as MOST people immunise their children that the measles cases dissapear fast!

You need to update your MMR every 10 years, so you are also not up to date with your vaccinations I'm kind of concerned that people are talking about anti-vaxers, but then don't keep track of their own vaccinations. I'm also surprised that so many people here seem not to know that you need multiple doses of quite a few vaccines in order to retain immunity... Sorry to sound judgmental, but the lack of awareness honestly surprises me. You can find this information very easily. Just ask your doctor.

Completely agree. Time and time again I see parents pointing the finger at unvaccinated children yet the majority of adults are not vaccinated as their childhood ones have worn off. Not forgetting vaccinated children and grown ups can easily still catch and spread these diseases, all it means is that their body is more efficient at fighting it. The only almost completely guaranteed immunity is through catching and fighting the illness naturally at which point it is rare for the individual to catch it again.

Please look at your own vaccinations and their expiry before pointing the finger at others

OP i hope you avoid the outbreak and baby stays safe

 

[jessmke]

Yes my children are fully immunised, my mum swears i had mmr injection as a kid so i dont see why im not immune you would think if it doesn't last a lifetime they would top up so this sort of thing doesn't happen wouldnt you, thing is i have no1 to pick my children up from school for me so i have to go get them, if i had someone to pick my children up i wouldn't be worried, but i dont and Sod's law a kid with measles is going to sneeze on me or something lol hopefully not though, im going to get myself those dust masks and walk around with that on lol! Its so annoying but im hoping being as MOST people immunise their children that the measles cases dissapear fast!

You need to update your MMR every 10 years, so you are also not up to date with your vaccinations I'm kind of concerned that people are talking about anti-vaxers, but then don't keep track of their own vaccinations. I'm also surprised that so many people here seem not to know that you need multiple doses of quite a few vaccines in order to retain immunity... Sorry to sound judgmental, but the lack of awareness honestly surprises me. You can find this information very easily. Just ask your doctor.

Where in Canada are you? In Saskatchewan we receive the vaccine as a baby and then a booster at 14 years old and that is it. I am in Alberta now and my doctor told me that adults are not routinely boostered and that if you are concerned your only option is to request a titre. It seems silly, since we are checked for our immunity to rubella when we fall pregnant, but if we find that we are not immune it is too late to receive the vaccine.

 

[StaceyM]

I currently live in Winnipeg, but I have lived all over the world (Toronto, New York, Dublin, Tokyo, etc.). I'm not certain why your doctor would refuse you a booster. That seems ridiculous, especially when you are of child-bearing age. I have never had a single issue getting my 10 year booster in any city that I have ever lived in. If a doctor did refuse, I would ask for my titres to be drawn, and/or his reasoning for the refusal, and I would probably change doctors. I travel a lot so I have an immunization record that I keep in order to help me remember my timing for vaccines, because I often have to take some odd ones that aren't routine in Canada. MMR, however, is routine. Every 10 years has always been the suggestion, but most health professionals believe that at a certain point you end up retaining immunity. The problem is that retention depends on the person, so the suggestion of every 10 years is preventative; at the very least it is important until you are 45 and aren't likely to get pregnant. If you get rubella when pregnant your baby will have major issues and could possibly die. I would ask your doctor which is more difficult - giving you another shot or having potential issues with your unborn baby? Obviously the MMR does lose potency, or so many people on here would not been complaining about their lack of immunity. I honestly don't understand what your doctor is talking about. I am 39 and have been routinely boostered for a variety of things all of my life, from a variety of doctors, in a variety of countries, most of whom, when I ask about titres, just say that it's easier for them to give me the booster than worry about drawing blood first. You do have to ask about your vaccinations though; doctors are usually too busy to keep track. I have a card that a doctor gave me at some point along the way and I just write it down, or he does when he gives me the vaccination.

Sorry Jessmke that your doctor is being an idiot. It legitimately concerns me that even some doctors are being complacent about vaccinations. And his excuse that your only option is to get your titres drawn is bogus. Doctors have a lot of leeway to use their professional judgement.

 

[jessmke]

I currently live in Winnipeg, but I have lived all over the world (Toronto, New York, Dublin, Tokyo, etc.). I'm not certain why your doctor would refuse you a booster. That seems ridiculous, especially when you are of child-bearing age. I have never had a single issue getting my 10 year booster in any city that I have ever lived in. If a doctor did refuse, I would ask for my titres to be drawn, and/or his reasoning for the refusal, and I would probably change doctors. I travel a lot so I have an immunization record that I keep in order to help me remember my timing for vaccines, because I often have to take some odd ones that aren't routine in Canada. MMR, however, is routine. Every 10 years has always been the suggestion, but most health professionals believe that at a certain point you end up retaining immunity. The problem is that retention depends on the person, so the suggestion of every 10 years is preventative; at the very least it is important until you are 45 and aren't likely to get pregnant. If you get rubella when pregnant your baby will have major issues and could possibly die. I would ask your doctor which is more difficult - giving you another shot or having potential issues with your unborn baby? Obviously the MMR does lose potency, or so many people on here would not been complaining about their lack of immunity. I honestly don't understand what your doctor is talking about. I am 39 and have been routinely boostered for a variety of things all of my life, from a variety of doctors, in a variety of countries, most of whom, when I ask about titres, just say that it's easier for them to give me the booster than worry about drawing blood first. You do have to ask about your vaccinations though; doctors are usually too busy to keep track. I have a card that a doctor gave me at some point along the way and I just write it down, or he does when he gives me the vaccination.

Sorry Jessmke that your doctor is being an idiot. It legitimately concerns me that even some doctors are being complacent about vaccinations. And his excuse that your only option is to get your titres drawn is bogus. Doctors have a lot of leeway to use their professional judgement.

Thanks for the info! When I spoke with my doctor about it I was still immune, I was pregnant about a year and a half ago (ended in miscarriage) and my blood work at that time showed I was still immune to rubella. I asked my doctor about it out of curiosity, because I was surprised that I was tested for it considering I had been vaccinated twice as a child. He told me at that time that many women lose immunity, but that the only way you would know is to have your titres drawn since we do not routinely booster adults. He never told me what my actual levels were, but I image they must have been on the low side since now a year and a half later I am no longer immune.

I have done a great deal of travelling and work internationally as a wildlife biologist and have been vaccinated for all sorts of crazy diseases, and no doctor or international travel clinic has every told me that I needed a rubella booster, even though my MMR vaccine dates are recorded in my immunization book. Health Canada should start a regular booster schedule for adults the way they do for children, or at least for women, since the consequences of contracting rubella while pregnant can be so devastating. If boostering adults is not something that even most doctors know to do routinely, then I don't think it's reasonable to expect individuals who are not in the field of health care to know that it is something they should be aware of.

This is the MMR immunization schedule I found on the Public Health of Canada Website:

Children (12 months to 12 years of age)

For routine immunization of children aged 12 months to 12 years, one dose of rubella-containing vaccine (MMR or MMRV) should be administered at 12 to 15 months of age.

Adolescents (13 to 17 years of age)

Rubella-susceptible adolescents should receive one dose of MMR vaccine.

Adults (18 years of age and older)

Rubella-susceptible adults should receive one dose of MMR vaccine.

 

[StaceyM]

Maybe it's a generational gap type of thing. I'm almost 40 and to me all of this is common knowledge. Like I've said before I've never had an issue with a doctor not knowing about it, or not wanting to booster me. I mean, the information that you show from Health Canada does say one MMR as an adolescent and one as an adult if you are susceptible - able to get pregnant would qualify as susceptible. I would just add another one if you were going to have children late (like me). It seems like many people on here haven't had the adult one, which is likely the problem. I may not have needed my 2nd adult one, but better safe than sorry in my opinion. Honestly though, this seems like a problem with your doctor. I mean if he took your titres, he should have seen that your levels were low and boostered you. Doesn't that just make sense given that you were having babies at the time? GPs aren't always the best. They have a lot of general knowledge, but no specific knowledge.

 

[o0oCharlieo0o]

Never here have i heard that you need a booster of mmr, as far as i was aware it was a life long vaccine and they should be topping it up being as its not, i think its dreadful very few are aware of it, but we are not medical drs and go by what they say and that it you have it as a child and that is it, i will be having mmr again when iv had this baby, i am not merely blaming children though id like to point out!!! But in this case i am saying that there are Children in the school who have measles so infact it IS the children i would be catching it from, not blaming children anyway because how can you blame a child for such a thing? Just a crappy situation that should be avoided by drs giving better information and then i would be immune anyway and not be bothered by anti vaxxers

 

[2have4kids]

Oocharlieooo, I'm sorry you feel judged. I'm angry at the people who purposefully don't vaccinate their children and fully agree with you there should be better education around. I don't think it's helpful for ladies to get on a thread you've posted and start pointing fingers at those of us who are upset at anti-vaxxers, given what you're going through and how vulnerable you are, unknowingly left low in booster. There's a difference to make a willful choice to leave a child (and others) at risk and potentially contribute to the proliferation of a vile disease than be caught unknowingly un-boostered and pregnant without a means to remedy an innocent mistake. We know you'd remedy it if you could, and you're right, there needs to be better education or a regiment to keep older populations boostered. There's a huge difference of willful intent from what's happened to you.

 

[jlw617]

I think the biggest problem with this thread and I really am not trying to be argumentative is that the thread started with genuine concern and turned into an anti vax bash session...I'm not sure how admin works on this site but I find it rather hypocritical that one thread I had started that was talking about the same subject but in a different light so to speak was shut down before there was even 4 comments, baby and bump should be a supportive community especially considering most of us have experienced losses so anytime there's bashing of something another mom might choose for her child, it's no longer a truly supportive community...

 

[o0oCharlieo0o]

We'll then hopefully admin will come along soon and shut this thread down! I'll change the title to ask them too and hopefully they will see it thats the last time i make a thread in my panic and fear for a bit of support!!! Thank you to the ladies who showed concern for my baby's well being i really do appreciate that, thats all i needed was a little support in my frightening time, but in future i best just keep it to myself i think!!! Iv already lost 3 babies, i am terrified of losing another and this far on and due to lack of immunisation! As far as i have been aware and brought up to beleive mmr is a lifelong vaccine i knew no different and why would i think to ask when even my mum told me it was a lifelong vaccine? Why would you ask if you thought you knew? It should be better publicised! I just posted my fears and how it turned into a session of 'quick admin should shut it down' i dont know! But as i say in ur future I'll keep my mouth shut and go through it alone then! But i will say again thank you to the ladies who came here to show me that support i really do appreciate it x

Would also just quickly like to add i dont want to argue with anyone at the end of the day a load of hormonal pregnant women with different view points in one place i think we done well and this is all quite mild really, but i dont want anyone upset or the thread to go any further hence why its better admin just get involved now,
The point of the post was about my unborn baby that is at risk of losing its life, sod whether we agree or dont agree with vaccines, the point is my baby.

 

[Blu10]

Charlie i dont know how old you are hun but Im mid 30's and my GO gave me a booster about 10 years ago when i visited for a pill check. They said they had found the the MMR vaccine over a 5 year period in the 80's hadnt been effective but i dont know if this was across the board or not? May explain why I had mumps when I was 9 though!
I hope everything is fine for you and bubs, measles is such a vile disease and the last thing you need when pregnant.
Xx

 

[Eleanor ace]

Thread closed at OP's request.
OP hopefully you gained some support from some of the answers given.