All these riots everywhere!!!

I wonder if shops know the serial numbers of stuff gone missing. That would be good to release that if it were possible, people would then know if they were buying the looted goods. Obviously trainers and stuff dont have serial numbers. :haha:
 
Shops should put trackers or something on everything they sell so if they're stolen they'd know and be able to find them.
 
yeah my job is to look into stolen serial numbers for an IT company. For phones and things they will know which sn's have been stolen and then they will see them when the person who has it registers for warranty etc. Thing is, you cant prove how many transactions have happened before it reached the person who's registered it. I think the police does look on ebay to find obvious stolen goods?
 
Im sure they do check on Ebay, hopefully they do! There are going to be so many innocent people who buy these goods that dont realise it could be stolen.

The groups on FB are making me laugh. :haha: some of them are so funny!

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Usin...Because-paying-20p-is-to-much/187674201299582
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Usin...hanistan-is-safer-than-London/245264248830186
:rofl:
 
the awkward moment when afghanistan is safer than london :haha:

It made me giggle. :haha:

There is a 14 year old boy who was arrested who has no fixed abode :nope:

Apparently so far the youngest who has been arrested is 11 years old.
 
11!!! its just shocking isnt it, i wasnt even allowed out when i was 11!! never mind to riot!!!
 
Apparently Council's and Housing Associations are going to evict any tenant who has been caught rioting. What they gonna do with them once they have evicted them?
 
11!!! its just shocking isnt it, i wasnt even allowed out when i was 11!! never mind to riot!!!

One 15 year old phoned LBC and said that her mum made her come in at 3am at that age :saywhat: I was still playing with my dolls at 11 I think I was going to bed at 9pm!! Lol.
 
yeh the 11 year old was in court yday. He stole a bin from debenhams. Stealing for stealings sake. There was a pic of him being marched to the court by a relative after trying to do a runner.
 
BBC news mentioned about a 14 yr old girl handed in by her uncle who found her with stolen goods. THAT's what we like to see!!!
 
BBC news mentioned about a 14 yr old girl handed in by her uncle who found her with stolen goods. THAT's what we like to see!!!

Agreed. :thumbup: Good honest man!

One girl handed herself in after she stole a TV from Currys and was feeling so guilty she couldnt sleep lol.
 
I wasn't going to even look at this thread again as I don't feel well enough to engage in a debate about this but I have done and as people as asked for me to explain my last post I feel it only fair I do.

When I said this is what's wrong with this country I meant the lack of empathy and preparedness to try and understand what is going on that is almost uniformly apparent across this country. Here on this thread; on facebook; on the news; by most politicians (certainly those in power). This narrowest of viewpoints that has become the norm is what creates the divided society that allows such awful acts as these riots to happen. Yes, amongst the diverse makeup of the rioters will be those who would be out vandalising and robbing anyway. Yes, for all the rioters this is opportunistic, criminal and gratuitous. But it does not follow that society cannot be held accountable for allowing it to be.

This predates this government though in the space of only a year the coalition has so successfully undone all the good Labour was working on and more that it is no wonder that there has been such a large number of violent protests and riots in these few short months since they came to power. The government is responsible for creating a stable, secure, peacful society and they have failed in this both by allowing such division in society that so many people think it is ok to behave this way and by not protecting citizens properly through a wholly inadequate response and through their larger cost-cutting within our public services.

But people in general are also responsible for the disenfranchisement of a whole generation. The media has long perpetuated the selfish, reckless 'hoodie' without any consideration for the poverty, lack of opportunity and education that underlies life for many young people and taking no responsibility for the material and selfish way of life it perpetuates with its trite celebrity culture that leaves young people thinking success equates to property rather than achievement. Those who follow this myth are just as responsible for the media panders to its audience. In general the people of this country are just as guilty of selfishness as those causing the violence. A lack of community spirit and consideration for others, a desire to build up house and home and opportunity for one's own family without thought for others who are in need, a minset endemic of consumerism and capitalism that at least dates back to the '80s (without going into the historical segregated past of the UK).

In the end humans are just animals with society imposed upon us. For it to work it needs to be fair and just. The more people who are neglected and marginalised the more inevitable they will one day club together and show their total lack of respect for the society that has had no respect for them, behaving as the animals we all are underneath. It's been said a million times before. You treat people like shit, they will act like shit. The answer? Stop treating them like shit and give them something meaningful to live for. It's society that teaches us morals and consideration, it isn't something genetic that we're born with. If people are lacking in what the majority consider to be a moral code then it is because they have not been properly taught it ergo society has let them down.

I want to stop there but I have to say this as it seems to be impossible for the majority of people to comprehend (and that's not a dig here but all over the media) that understanding what has allowed this to happen is NOT the same as condoning or justifying it. If we never ask the questions and seek the answers this will just happen again and again, always bubbling just beneath the surface.
 
Apparently Council's and Housing Associations are going to evict any tenant who has been caught rioting. What they gonna do with them once they have evicted them?

Who cares? They didn't care when they burnt down peoples homes. Let them rot on the streets :thumbup:

In all seriousness, I think they should be evicted and people who need and deserve the homes should be placed in them. Put the thugs in the worst hovels they can find and then they'll realise how well off they were before.
 
BBC news mentioned about a 14 yr old girl handed in by her uncle who found her with stolen goods. THAT's what we like to see!!!

Agreed. :thumbup: Good honest man!

One girl handed herself in after she stole a TV from Currys and was feeling so guilty she couldnt sleep lol.

I know someone who burgled someones house for their tv and dvd player, he stole them, felt guilty so took them back and made the effort to make sure things were exactly in the right place so the owners would be none the wiser :dohh:
 
As far as I'm aware no-one has said or implied in this thread that the underlying issues should not be addressed or that there isn't a bigger reason for what's happened (I have started a debate thread about this in debates which might interest you). People have simply said that those who were involved should be punished.

I disgree that a desire to build house and home LAWFULLY for your own family is a fault or a contributor in this... or that those that do so pay no attention to the needs of others. I, for example, am bulding my own house, home & opportunities for my family. I also regularly fund raise and take part in local charity events. I STILL feel that the criminals that have riotted should be punished and support the police and courts in whichever routes they follow to do so.

On the subject of stopping benefits (mentioned by others) I think this would just lead to further crime and bad feeling. A reduction would be better, proportionate to the damage/crime committed. xx

ETA - Incidentally I actually came from a broken home, mother more interested in drugs and men than raising her children, benefits, poverty background. I worked hard to get out and make a beter life for myself. No-one encouraged that, in fact my mother resents me for having a better life than she did, I just chose to take a different path off my own back. I think this gives me a lack of sympathy for others in those situations. I SHOULD be the exact type of person to have followed that destructive path - but didn't. WIth no parent or outsider guidance.
 
I agree 100% that the Government have failed.

But this country will always put their families first before others. It doesnt mean they dont want to help in thei community. I help in mine but ultimately I am going to do what I can for my family.

These teenagers say they did it cos they want the police off their backs, they want to be left alone and stopped being pulled up and searched all the time. Stop carrying knives and guns and acting like your some ghetto criminal and then you wont be stopped. The police pull them over because they are trying to protect a the community.

I have been pulled over many a time because I look young (insulting at 24 :haha:) they thought my car was stolen because it was brand new and the officer thought I was still in school. I just let them do what they were doing and I was soon on my way. Sometimes people think they are being treated like shit cos they are so defensive.
 
Apparently Council's and Housing Associations are going to evict any tenant who has been caught rioting. What they gonna do with them once they have evicted them?

Who cares? They didn't care when they burnt down peoples homes. Let them rot on the streets :thumbup:

In all seriousness, I think they should be evicted and people who need and deserve the homes should be placed in them. Put the thugs in the worst hovels they can find and then they'll realise how well off they were before.

But as the same as the benefits what will happen, they will end up on the streets robbing again. Vicious circle really.
 
They'd be better given a very strong warning that they were on their final straw so to speak and that one HINT of anti-social or criminal behaviour from their families would mean they would be evicted. Then follow through if they did do so. Perhaps move them into shared social housing and work with them to build bridges before they earn their right to their own home again? xx
 

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