Anyone doing FET/IVF in Jan 2013 till everyone's BFP (Everyone Welcome)

[alicatt]

Alicatt- Def looks BFP to me!! Keep peeing!! Yayy


Everyone... my butt is sooooooo sore today from my first PIO shot... normal? I iced before to numb it and I massaged and heating pad after and today... I can't imagine doign this for 10 weeks! I couldn't even sleep last night it was so sore.

Thanks BabyD. Yes PIO shots can do that. It is bruising from the needle. I'm not sure if it was a lady on this thread or on another said it, but you can use a smaller gauge needle. They tell you you have to use a 22 1/2 gauge needle, but someone said to use the 25 1/2 gauge needle, and I've noticed that it doesn't hurt nearly as much. Now you can only do this if your PIO is made of ethyl oleate (sp), as it is the thinnest type of PIO.

I'm on the Progesterone in Sesame oil... wonder if that would work too. I'm pretty thin... and the inch and a half needle is huge!!! I feel like I'm going to hit my pelvic bone with it because everyone's diagram shows to inject it so high. Maybe I should shoot it in more near my hip.

The needle is just as long, but it isn't as thick, so thicker oil will be more difficult to squeeze through the needle. You could give it a try and see if it works? I wouldn't go any thinner than a 25 1/2 gauge needle though.

 

[MoBaby]

Just to clarify the needle length. It should be 1 and 1/2 inch in length. 1/2 inch most likely wont reach the muscle. IF you are very skinny a 1" needle may work. But you could use a 25 gauge needle vs the 22 gauge needle. It would flow through a little slower (and you will feel resistance going in) but it would hurt way less going in. This is why the 22 is recommended. Make sure to warm it though in your palms before injecting so it thins it out some. If you find its hard in the 25 gauge then you will have to go back to the 22gauge. I found my behind hurt only the first few days then got better. I never did the 25 gauge only the 22 but when I need to do it again I think I will try the 25 on days I need to do it myself.

helpful link:
https://www.stirrup-queens.com/2006/07/im-injections/

(and see attachment where to inject originally from turkey : )) I found if I did it in the wrong place my butt hurt way more.

 

[Sweetness_87]

Alli-omg I'm soooooo excited!!!!!also everyone says FMU is the best. Not for me as I pee at least 2-3 times every night. So I wake up, pee then hold it 4-5 hours then test. I'm waiting til 1-2pm to test again today. My nipples aren't sore like they were so getting nervous now. Hope it's darker again today. Beta is this fri

Babyd- I did have progesterone in sesame oil and used it for like 3 days. I reacted to it soooo bad do they changed me to olive oil which still hurts but not as bad as the sesame oil. Hope it gets better

Ash- hope your embryos are doing great!

Mo- that's a good sign. That means your going to have a good O. At least alllll the reading I have read over the years thats a good sign!!! Hopefully you will get preg on your own

Hope everyone else is doing great!!

Afm- going to POAS today again at 1 or 2. Just nervous cause my nipples are not sore like they were. And i did call my RE today and spoke with the nurse prac and they are going to order my lovenox and beta is fri. She said she was surprised I had a positive at 4dp6dt so I hope is cont to stay strong. I'm currently 6dp6dt

 

[alicatt]

So I called to get more PIO and they said that they are out! How can Freedom Pharmacy be out of PIO? I'm not sure what I'm going to do since they shorted me the last bottle and now I can't get more! She made it sound like they had other options, but she was being cagey. I just want my PIO!

 

[MoBaby]

pg on my own is impossible for the most part...DH highest sperm count was 600,000 per mL with 33% motility so thats like 0.5% chance of naturally occurring pregnancy. A girl can dream though.

I have WTF with my old RE tomorrow...and the dreaded I am going somewhere else conversation... I am going to let him talk to me about what he is going to do differently and what his recommendations are then break the news that I am choosing to do an IVF cycle elsewhere then if that doesn't work come back to him to do the FET or IUI w/DS. So thats the plan. Hopefully it goes smooth. I am a bit nervous about it. I am afraid I will start crying because thats how I get. Emotional.

 

[MoBaby]

So I called to get more PIO and they said that they are out! How can Freedom Pharmacy be out of PIO? I'm not sure what I'm going to do since they shorted me the last bottle and now I can't get more! She made it sound like they had other options, but she was being cagey. I just want my PIO!

Can the RE office spot you until you can get more?? Someone has to have some! I have extra if you cant find any that I can ship you a bottle.

 

[BabyD225]

Just to clarify the needle length. It should be 1 and 1/2 inch in length. 1/2 inch most likely wont reach the muscle. IF you are very skinny a 1" needle may work. But you could use a 25 gauge needle vs the 22 gauge needle. It would flow through a little slower (and you will feel resistance going in) but it would hurt way less going in. This is why the 22 is recommended. Make sure to warm it though in your palms before injecting so it thins it out some. If you find its hard in the 25 gauge then you will have to go back to the 22gauge. I found my behind hurt only the first few days then got better. I never did the 25 gauge only the 22 but when I need to do it again I think I will try the 25 on days I need to do it myself.

helpful link:
https://www.stirrup-queens.com/2006/07/im-injections/

(and see attachment where to inject originally from turkey : )) I found if I did it in the wrong place my butt hurt way more.

Mobaby- Thank you so much! I'm going to tell DH to inject me a little higher and to the hip more tonight... and I'm calling to see if I can get 25 gauge and EMLA cream. I see you have an appt tomorrow.. what are your thoughts about moving forward?

 

[alicatt]

So I called to get more PIO and they said that they are out! How can Freedom Pharmacy be out of PIO? I'm not sure what I'm going to do since they shorted me the last bottle and now I can't get more! She made it sound like they had other options, but she was being cagey. I just want my PIO!

Can the RE office spot you until you can get more?? Someone has to have some! I have extra if you cant find any that I can ship you a bottle.

I'm not sure if it is just the progesterone in ethyl oleate or all PIO? I just spoke to my FS office and she said it was good that I supplemented with the Crinone as it was better than nothing. She is going to talk to my FS and see what is going on, and what they want me to do.

 

[BabyD225]

So I called to get more PIO and they said that they are out! How can Freedom Pharmacy be out of PIO? I'm not sure what I'm going to do since they shorted me the last bottle and now I can't get more! She made it sound like they had other options, but she was being cagey. I just want my PIO!

Can the RE office spot you until you can get more?? Someone has to have some! I have extra if you cant find any that I can ship you a bottle.

I'm not sure if it is just the progesterone in ethyl oleate or all PIO? I just spoke to my FS office and she said it was good that I supplemented with the Crinone as it was better than nothing. She is going to talk to my FS and see what is going on, and what they want me to do.

I have plenty of extra crinone if you need.. i'm in ny.. can make it there in no time!

 

[MoBaby]

I have the progesterone in sesame oil....Just the plain stuff... I seriously have plenty of bottles of it as I ordered it and paid full price then I ovulated on my own but didnt need it.

BabyD: We have decided (I think we are 100%) to do IVF/ICSI/TESE (on day of ER)/PGS freeze all and do FET 1-2 months later. BUT I will not do it with the RE I am seeing tomorrow. 3 strikes and they are out! If the IVF/PGS does not work then we will move forward with transferring the two frosties then donor IUI if that does not work. But I keep getting this thing in the back of my head that is saying transfer the 2 frosties then move on the DSIUI.... Sigh. But I want to try with DH one more time.

 

[BabyD225]

I have the progesterone in sesame oil....Just the plain stuff... I seriously have plenty of bottles of it as I ordered it and paid full price then I ovulated on my own but didnt need it.

BabyD: We have decided (I think we are 100%) to do IVF/ICSI/TESE (on day of ER)/PGS freeze all and do FET 1-2 months later. BUT I will not do it with the RE I am seeing tomorrow. 3 strikes and they are out! If the IVF/PGS does not work then we will move forward with transferring the two frosties then donor IUI if that does not work. But I keep getting this thing in the back of my head that is saying transfer the 2 frosties then move on the DSIUI.... Sigh. But I want to try with DH one more time.

How did you decide that moving on to a donor is an option? I can't get it in my head that I could do that. I'm convincing myself that after 10 IVF's/FET's something will stick lol.. hopefully for you, a new RE is all you need! let me know how tomorrow goes.xo

 

[alicatt]

Thanks ladies for the offers of PIO. The woman I spoke with at Freedom Pharmacy should be shot She was totally off her rocker. They have plenty of the type of PIO that I'm using, and my FS office called to confirm. I have no idea why they would tell me otherwise? I don't need that kind of stress. Anyway, crisis averted, they are shipping me the PIO today. So I will get it tomorrow I believe. I will use the Crinone tomorrow just to make sure I have enough in my system, but I will be happy to get back to the PIO.

 

[MoBaby]

Babyd: the new re basically told dh that his sperm was the issue and it's the reason we have poor quality embryos so he recommended donor sperm Iui... This is 2 yrs later mind you and him strongly saying no. It's not our first choice but we pay all out of pocket and have enough left for 1-2 more ivf cycles and then that's it. Tough decision for sure.

 

[BabyD225]

Mobaby- i can't imagine.. I'm only a year and a half in.. and only on my first FET after the miscarriage. Hoping that one more ICSI cycle will work for you, but if not, I'm hopeful you'll have a BFP will some sperm out there! (lucky guy)

Alicatt- Glad you averted the crisis.. so strange they told you that! But i'm so happy you got it figured out. One day on crinone is not a big deal. The progesterone stays in you for a day so it's great that you even have the gel.

 

[L4hope]

Ali def looks like a line! C'mon line get darker tomorrow!!

BabyD, sorry your toushy hurts. I remember that feeling with pio(not sure what kind of oil it was). But the soreness gets better, I think your butt just gets used to the abuse! but def keep that heating pad on hand.

 

[alicatt]

Ali def looks like a line! C'mon line get darker tomorrow!!

BabyD, sorry your toushy hurts. I remember that feeling with pio(not sure what kind of oil it was). But the soreness gets better, I think your butt just gets used to the abuse! but def keep that heating pad on hand.

Thanks L4! I am hopeful that it will get darker. My lower back pain and cramping have subsided again, they come in waves (which is not normal for me). Usually once AF is on her way, the cramps and especially lower back pain are here to stay.

BabyD, I think with PIO it is what it is. My rear is only feeling better now after 8-9 days of shots because I haven't given myself a shot since Saturday. Let me tell you on Saturday I could barely roll over in bed both cheeks hurt that bad Maybe I am just not inserting them correctly, and of course it is more difficult to get the right angle by yourself! I do think that my FS said I could switch to the suppositories at some point. Maybe yours will let you too!

 

[2girls1baby]

Yay, Ali

I'm anxiously waiting for my 2nd Beta results....any hour now...

 

[alicatt]

Yay, Ali

I'm anxiously waiting for my 2nd Beta results....any hour now...

Good luck with your 2nd BETA!!

 

[FirstTry]

Good luck, 2girls!

BabyD: I found that when I ice, though the initial prick hurts less, I get a bruise. So, I stopped icing. Thanks for posting the photo. I also googled and found the video from Freedom Pharmacy. I think I was shooting myself too close to the middle of my cheeks. I'll adjust starting tonight. This is good, because I was running out of spots for shots

 

[BabyD225]

l4hope and Ali- thank you! i sure hope so...

2girls1baby... excited to hear second number!