Anyone ever have a d&c and have the tissue analysed from chromosome problems?

[filipenko32]

Hi,

I am currently going through my 3rd miscarriage in 8 months. I am just deciding whether I would have a d&c to get the chromosomes tested. I wondered if anyone's miscarriage followed a similar pattern to mine like seeing the heartbeat for one and having a smaller than should be gestational sac for another and found out if their baby was chromosomally normal or not. For the heartbeat miscarriage the yolk sac was also too large. For this last miscarriage the hcg doubled normally and then just stopped at around the 5th and a half week mark. I didn't get the hcg checked on the others. I just wanted to compare patterns of what happened with anyone who had gone on to have the chromosome test. Thanks! x

 

[keepontrying]

Im so sorry to hear about your tough times ,its so hard to go through isnt it xxx
Yes I did, I had suffered losses, been through fertility treatment that almost killed me, lost twins and single pregnancies and the feelings of ' what the hell is wrong with me' were overwhelming... I found it really helpful to find a reason....

My baby was a girl and had turners syndrome, a chromosome abnormality. It gave me lots of closure to know the reason behind that loss, because i blamed myself, thought i was being punished etc. Because I had the test i was also offered genetic screening to rule out whether i was a carrier of anything, i wasnt so that was a huge relief.

It helped with my grieving and healing to know. i will never know the reasons behind my others. I know a girl with turners syndrome who is perfectly 'normal' other than reproductive issues but i also know that the severity can vary greatly. It was one of those things and im glad i did it. Would i do it again if i was in that position - absolutley.
Miscarriages brings so many unanswered questions and i was lucky that mine did get an outcome. I found that miscarriage easier to deal with( i dont know whether that was due to the test or the fact that I was kinda getting used to them

 

[filipenko32]

Im so sorry to hear about your tough times ,its so hard to go through isnt it xxx
Yes I did, I had suffered losses, been through fertility treatment that almost killed me, lost twins and single pregnancies and the feelings of ' what the hell is wrong with me' were overwhelming... I found it really helpful to find a reason....

My baby was a girl and had turners syndrome, a chromosome abnormality. It gave me lots of closure to know the reason behind that loss, because i blamed myself, thought i was being punished etc. Because I had the test i was also offered genetic screening to rule out whether i was a carrier of anything, i wasnt so that was a huge relief.

It helped with my grieving and healing to know. i will never know the reasons behind my others. I know a girl with turners syndrome who is perfectly 'normal' other than reproductive issues but i also know that the severity can vary greatly. It was one of those things and im glad i did it. Would i do it again if i was in that position - absolutley.
Miscarriages brings so many unanswered questions and i was lucky that mine did get an outcome. I found that miscarriage easier to deal with( i dont know whether that was due to the test or the fact that I was kinda getting used to them

I'm so sorry you had all those losses I can't imagine the emotional pain you have been through and thanks so much for replying that's really useful to know. I have blamed myself for everything too and i am really quite a healthy person! I kept thinking it was because i used to smoke 5 years ago!! Did you ever see the heartbeat on the pregnancy you had the chromosome test done on? I think it will really help me to get the test done if I can. Is everything ok with your pregnancy now? Did you do anything differently? Sorry for all of the questions! x

 

[PoodleMommy]

I'm SO sorry for your losses!! I've had six miscarriages (well, technically four miscarriages and two chemicals), and three of my miscarriages were within 10 months of each other... DEVASTATING. I know the immense and awful pain you're going through.

For my first baby, I was blissfully naive and got my first and only u/s at 12.5 weeks... when I was told there was no heartbeat and the baby only measured about 8.5 weeks.

For my third and fourth, I was getting desperate to understand why... so I had a D&C for them. It was discovered that the third baby had died from Trisomy 16, and the fourth baby had died of Turner Syndrome.

As for any hints of an impending m/c for those two babies, I would say ABSOLUTELY, YES -- even though my stupid fertility specialist told me at both 6-week u/s's that the baby looked "perfect" and the heartbeat was "perfect."

Well, no, they were NOT "perfect," and I knew it at the time. For baby #3, he was measuring five days too small, and I was sure of my dates. The doctor claimed that was within the normal variance. Also, the heartbeat was only 90. I knew that was too slow, but again, the stupid doctor lied to me. Sure enough, the baby had barely grown by the 7-week u/s, and it was only a matter of time before the baby passed away.

With baby #4, I thought at first everything looked fantastic. My hCG numbers were amazingly high -- at 3w5d, I was over 400!!! (I now realize that hCG that high, that early, can be the sign of a chromosome problem -- but again, no one every told me that.) Once again, the doctor told me at my 6w5d u/s that the baby looked perfect... but she was three days too small. I didn't have another u/s until 9w1d, by which time the baby had just passed away.

So, the things I should've been looking for were 1) baby measuring more than 2-3 days too small, 2) heartbeat too slow, and also 3) yolk sac too large. (I've been studying my u/s photos from babies #3 and 4 to see if I could figure out its size.)

keepontrying, I agree completely that chromosome testing gives you such closure! With m/c #4, I had eaten an entire carrot cake on the day that it turned out the baby died. I was SURE I had killed my baby from the extreme sugar intake somehow. What relief to find out that she wasn't meant to be... I would never have forgiven myself if she'd turned out to be chromosomally normal! It is WELL worth getting chromosome testing for closure and peace of mind.

 

[PoodleMommy]

having a smaller than should be gestational sac for another

May I ask, what size was that gestational sac and what size should it have been? I'm obsessing right now that my gest. sac was too small at 7 weeks with my current pg and that my doctor (a different doctor from the first one) didn't tell me. I guess after a certain number of losses, you're suspicious about everything...

 

[filipenko32]

having a smaller than should be gestational sac for another

May I ask, what size was that gestational sac and what size should it have been? I'm obsessing right now that my gest. sac was too small at 7 weeks with my current pg and that my doctor (a different doctor from the first one) didn't tell me. I guess after a certain number of losses, you're suspicious about everything...

Hi PoodleMommy I'm so sorry that you went through so much torture and i REALLY hope everything works out for you this time . Thanks so much for your reply, it made me feel so much better to think that maybe these are chromosomal losses and there's maybe not something actually wrong with me, but everything you said rings true to me. My gestational sac was 4 weeks 6 when it should have been 5 weeks 5/6 days . I was unnerved at my first ever scan this time round at 5.2 (like you say now you just know when everything's not perfect) because the doctor saw a gestational sac at 5 weeks 2 days but gave me a hcg test anyway to test for an ectopic (so I thought well it can't be a proper gest sac then! And he never said this to me at the time). Next it was the hcg result that came back at 1439 - 1739 over 48 hours that had him rush me to a&e for a suspected ectopic + fake sac!! I told them why I was there and that I had no symptoms of pain or anything. A moment later they had me on a bed wearing one of those awful gowns and wheeling me to a scan room when I could walk perfectly fine!! It was terrifying and my husband was as white as a ghost. Then the sonographer asked me if i could walk to the scan room from just outside it!?! It was at this scan that they thankfully confirmed an intrauterine pregnancy because of the presence of a yolk sac in the gest sac (nothing else) but they mentioned that the gest sac was a week too small according to my dates. I got dressed and walked out of the hospital as if nothing had happened - there is something funny about this scenario in hindsight!! Have they told you that your gestational sac is too small this time around? I'm still waiting to miscarry this pregnancy and have another scan on Friday but i'll walk to that one! I have read some posts recently that had the gestational sac catch up at 20 weeks but I think that when you have multiple miscarriages you definitely want everything to be perfect from the get go. Which pregnancy did you have the enlarged yolk sac? That happened on my second one but it had a heartbeat too which eventually stopped less than a week later. x x

 

[filipenko32]

Oh and i'm having early scans and monitoring because i'm under the care of this doctor who is treating me 'for the sake of it' with blood thinning injections and progesterone.

 

[keepontrying]

Im so sorry to hear about your tough times ,its so hard to go through isnt it xxx
Yes I did, I had suffered losses, been through fertility treatment that almost killed me, lost twins and single pregnancies and the feelings of ' what the hell is wrong with me' were overwhelming... I found it really helpful to find a reason....

My baby was a girl and had turners syndrome, a chromosome abnormality. It gave me lots of closure to know the reason behind that loss, because i blamed myself, thought i was being punished etc. Because I had the test i was also offered genetic screening to rule out whether i was a carrier of anything, i wasnt so that was a huge relief.

It helped with my grieving and healing to know. i will never know the reasons behind my others. I know a girl with turners syndrome who is perfectly 'normal' other than reproductive issues but i also know that the severity can vary greatly. It was one of those things and im glad i did it. Would i do it again if i was in that position - absolutley.
Miscarriages brings so many unanswered questions and i was lucky that mine did get an outcome. I found that miscarriage easier to deal with( i dont know whether that was due to the test or the fact that I was kinda getting used to them

I'm so sorry you had all those losses I can't imagine the emotional pain you have been through and thanks so much for replying that's really useful to know. I have blamed myself for everything too and i am really quite a healthy person! I kept thinking it was because i used to smoke 5 years ago!! Did you ever see the heartbeat on the pregnancy you had the chromosome test done on? I think it will really help me to get the test done if I can. Is everything ok with your pregnancy now? Did you do anything differently? Sorry for all of the questions! x

I did see a heart beat yes, I also did with the twins pregnancy as this was due to fertility treatment so i had early scans. All my losses have been post heart beat stage and all have been missed miscarriages.
The only things i have done different this time is...

the pessaries im on (and were on in the past ) were doubled in dose by the hospital and then trebled by a private clinic!
I was on clexane 40mg in prior pregnancies and thats continued.
Aspirin previously was 75mg but its been upped to 150... i did that myself and my consultant left it the same when i told him!
I have been signed off work till i get to 14 weeks as i have a stressful job with long hours and no breaks!

also , a big one... its a different partner this time so im hoping that he, us and our family are meant to be and the reason for why nothing worked out before (because then we wouldnt have met )

Any questions you have, any feeling , anything at all - feel free to message me as i do know how your feeling right now and your not alone , even though it can feel that way.

much love to you - i hope you get some answers and closure xxxxx take care sweetheart xxxx

 

[filipenko32]

Im so sorry to hear about your tough times ,its so hard to go through isnt it xxx
Yes I did, I had suffered losses, been through fertility treatment that almost killed me, lost twins and single pregnancies and the feelings of ' what the hell is wrong with me' were overwhelming... I found it really helpful to find a reason....

My baby was a girl and had turners syndrome, a chromosome abnormality. It gave me lots of closure to know the reason behind that loss, because i blamed myself, thought i was being punished etc. Because I had the test i was also offered genetic screening to rule out whether i was a carrier of anything, i wasnt so that was a huge relief.

It helped with my grieving and healing to know. i will never know the reasons behind my others. I know a girl with turners syndrome who is perfectly 'normal' other than reproductive issues but i also know that the severity can vary greatly. It was one of those things and im glad i did it. Would i do it again if i was in that position - absolutley.
Miscarriages brings so many unanswered questions and i was lucky that mine did get an outcome. I found that miscarriage easier to deal with( i dont know whether that was due to the test or the fact that I was kinda getting used to them

I'm so sorry you had all those losses I can't imagine the emotional pain you have been through and thanks so much for replying that's really useful to know. I have blamed myself for everything too and i am really quite a healthy person! I kept thinking it was because i used to smoke 5 years ago!! Did you ever see the heartbeat on the pregnancy you had the chromosome test done on? I think it will really help me to get the test done if I can. Is everything ok with your pregnancy now? Did you do anything differently? Sorry for all of the questions! x

I did see a heart beat yes, I also did with the twins pregnancy as this was due to fertility treatment so i had early scans. All my losses have been post heart beat stage and all have been missed miscarriages.
The only things i have done different this time is...

the pessaries im on (and were on in the past ) were doubled in dose by the hospital and then trebled by a private clinic!
I was on clexane 40mg in prior pregnancies and thats continued.
Aspirin previously was 75mg but its been upped to 150... i did that myself and my consultant left it the same when i told him!
I have been signed off work till i get to 14 weeks as i have a stressful job with long hours and no breaks!

also , a big one... its a different partner this time so im hoping that he, us and our family are meant to be and the reason for why nothing worked out before (because then we wouldnt have met )

Any questions you have, any feeling , anything at all - feel free to message me as i do know how your feeling right now and your not alone , even though it can feel that way.

much love to you - i hope you get some answers and closure xxxxx take care sweetheart xxxx

Thanks so much! I REALLY hope everything works out for you with your new partner, think fate definitely has some hand in all this too! I am signed off a stressful job aswell, I just wasn't coping emotionally at all and I think that when these miscarriages happen in quick succession you are still grieving for the last one but at the same time I only feel happy when i'm trying again! x x