Anyone with endometriosis?

[Rhapsodi]

I think they do the lap early so you still have a chance that cycle. I think it's that cycle or the one after many have luck

Hopefully you did O and won't need the lap but either way very promising things are coming!

 

[J_Lynn]

Having Endo removed shouldn't be considered fertility or infertility treatment through your insurance. It's a horribly painful, problem causing issue on its own. When I had my Endo removed it was *not* considered fertility or infertility as far as insurance billing went. It should be covered in your insurance just like a gallbladder surgery would be

 

[Rhapsodi]

The other issue as far as insurance for me is that it can't be considered induced by lifestyle choices. They have high expectations. I need to follow a special diet to remove it. I doubt it will be covered which is why I'm looking into a different option.

The diet I should follow (but I find to restrictive with my allergies) is Eat to Live. Essentially it is plant based, limited carbs and limited meat. I've had 0luck getting there due to fruit and legume intolerances (not to mention dairy and gluten).

 

[Blackbarbie04]

The other issue as far as insurance for me is that it can't be considered induced by lifestyle choices. They have high expectations. I need to follow a special diet to remove it. I doubt it will be covered which is why I'm looking into a different option.

The diet I should follow (but I find to restrictive with my allergies) is Eat to Live. Essentially it is plant based, limited carbs and limited meat. I've had 0luck getting there due to fruit and legume intolerances (not to mention dairy and gluten).

Have you talked to your doctor about putting the issue or cause for the surgery for pain? That is what my doctor is doing so that my insurance will cover it, b/c if they billed it under infertility my insurance would not cover it.

 

[Rhapsodi]

The reason won't matter too much for my current insurance.

The big issue my current insurance looks at is if my lifestyle caused the problem.

So did being overweight cause the endo (although im convinced I've had it since my first cycle before I think I would have been overweight). BMI determining overweight. I'm currently at a bmi of 29.5. I need to get closer to 25 and remain there to get them to cover the surgery.

Which unless I follow the diet perfectly and don't have any improvement would be the only way it would be paid for since endo is common with people exposed to toxins, and are overweight. I love the insurance but hate it.

Which is why diet is important for me. But also my big barrier.

 

[Blackbarbie04]

Having my lap on jan 16 at 930!!! Pray for me!!! Hoping that this fix the issues that I'm having! !!

 

[Rhapsodi]

I'll be praying this is it!

 

[J_Lynn]

The reason won't matter too much for my current insurance.

The big issue my current insurance looks at is if my lifestyle caused the problem.

So did being overweight cause the endo (although im convinced I've had it since my first cycle before I think I would have been overweight). BMI determining overweight. I'm currently at a bmi of 29.5. I need to get closer to 25 and remain there to get them to cover the surgery.

Which unless I follow the diet perfectly and don't have any improvement would be the only way it would be paid for since endo is common with people exposed to toxins, and are overweight. I love the insurance but hate it.

Which is why diet is important for me. But also my big barrier.

Out of curiosity, why does your insurance think that being overweight is a cause of endometriosis? It has nothing to do with being overweight, at all. It's simple when the endometrial cells implant and grow outside the uterus - there is nothing even remotely related to being overweight as a cause for it. There is no known cause, and it's simple the cells flowing backward through the fallopian tubes into the pelvis. The cells can literally attach on to anything down there; your bladder, rectum, ovaries ... it has nothing to do with being overweight. Where does your insurance company get that from?

 

[Rhapsodi]

Well I'm not sure if my insurance does think that but that would be why they wouldn't cover it though (due to lifestyle choices as they say) But from what I understand food and endo do work closely of ether.

https://www.cureendometriosis.com/w...-weight-loss-tips-hopefully-you-havent-heard/

https://www.pcrm.org/health/health-topics/endometriosis

Which leads back to lifestyle. I'm changing my lifestyle but it's easier said than done.

Hopefully my DH can get the info from his new job about his insurance soon so we can switch so it isn't an issue but then again I'm Leary as my last surgery my insurance only covered 5-10% when they said 50%.

I go to the practitioner today hopefully I can get some answers!

 

[cookette]

Im borderline stage 2 endo, have had lap twice. The surgeries were fine, the most painful part was when they removed a large fibroid with it. Just now starting to TTC this month....had lap in November and Dr told me to start trying, like, YESTERDAY to get pregnant. At least we are supposed to have relief from symptoms during pregnancy....

 

[cookette]

Well I'm not sure if my insurance does think that but that would be why they wouldn't cover it though (due to lifestyle choices as they say) But from what I understand food and endo do work closely of ether.

https://www.cureendometriosis.com/w...-weight-loss-tips-hopefully-you-havent-heard/

https://www.pcrm.org/health/health-topics/endometriosis

Which leads back to lifestyle. I'm changing my lifestyle but it's easier said than done.

Hopefully my DH can get the info from his new job about his insurance soon so we can switch so it isn't an issue but then again I'm Leary as my last surgery my insurance only covered 5-10% when they said 50%.

I go to the practitioner today hopefully I can get some answers!

I had not ever heard this before....cutting inflammation makes sense, but Im a bit of a skeptic as endo cells are hormonally induced?

 

[Rhapsodi]

Food can move hormones as well.

Just got back from my appointment.

I'm going for HSG next month and a consult for a lap surgery. Hopefully I convince that dr to do the surgery... My dr won't do any things with meds until I do those things because she is SO sure about the endo and doing meds with endo won't help anything... A little bummed but hopefully this will get things moving...

 

[Rhapsodi]

I was going through my medical history notes tonight. And came across a note saying I had retroverted cervix. Which just adds to my list of endo symptoms! Not sure if that's good or bad. Hoping to get this resolved soon!

 

[Milty]

You know they can do an HSG with your lap and can tell better what's going on with your tubes. Also you get to sleep though it. Just a thought...

 

[Rhapsodi]

For me that isn't an option as the dr that does HSG and the lap doesn't like to do lap surgeries. He usually likes to try clomid and diet first. I've already done some diet changes but still have symptoms and my dr doesn't want to do meds yet (she might if he refuses to do the surgery but she thinks it will be a waste). Our hope (dr and mine) is that when he does the HSG he sees endo so will automatically do the lap without more convincing.

I'm very confident I have endo since I have a ton of symptoms.

Now my fear is how bad it is. Maybe drastic diet changes and good supplements between now and then can reduce cost and length of recovery. I have only a few weeks! It starts today!

 

[Milty]

I don't think they can see endo in an HSG.

You could have multiple endo spots and dye would run through your tubes ok. However, if your tubes had been twisted from the endo then of course that would show.

 

[Rhapsodi]

It is extremely unlikely they would find endo with an HSG but it's possible. I'm not holding my breTh for it. (Neither is my dr)

 

[Blackbarbie04]

I've already had a hsg but he's doing a more extensive one during my lap. What this one will show if I have any damages in my tubes were the other one I had while awoke just showed if I had any blockages in my tubes.

 

[Rhapsodi]

Interesting blackbarbie. Makes sense to me!

I'm kinda freaking out with the lap now on the table. I have so many symptoms I feel like I could need some major removals causing lots of time/money. Trying to implement all the diet changes to help decrease some of it.

 

[Milty]

Try not to let your symptoms freak you out. I really didn't have a lot of symptoms but had stage 4 endo. However I had a friend who had severe symptoms and only stage 2.

The major cost of the surgery won't vary much on the number of spots you have. If for some reason you had to stay in the hospital then the cost would really go up.