Breastfed baby risk investigated

[leeanne]

Its funny because alot of women who chose to ff claim the doctors/hospital push bfing on them... and bfing mums try to claim bottlefeeding was pushed.

The only thing I know for sure is that there are quite a few very pushy women on this board who get alot of jabs in about ff... my favorit is the claim that bf babies dont get sick as much, its a big load of crap... doesnt mtter what way you feed they can still get sick and I see just as many bf mums posting about colds and viruses.

Everyone is free to chose, but there are cons and realities of both methods of feeding. I dont think bringing them up is wrong. I personally think it would be better to know the cons before you chose... and each person can decide for themseves if it "scares them away".

Agree to this too. Amanda and Jayden were both breastfed, and Jayden for a few years, and they've been sick so often since November with colds and flu. I see no difference.

The only difference I see is that I am no longer tied to the couch feeding Chase all day long. I am no longer tied to my house because I am not comfortable breastfeeding in public. I don't have to cover myself up every time an employee comes into my house. I can go out for hours and still have a happy, fed baby.

I knew this thread was going south.

 

[TashaAndBump]

Tasha, I have never thought bfers have it easy.. they dont and i've said many times my hats off to them for going through what they do... It just bothers me that since I dont bf any little thing thats said negative is taken way too hard.

Im happy I chose to stop bfing, but do you know how degrading it was in the beginning when people would ask if I was nursing... and I said, no im bottlefeeding? The look people give says it all.. on top of that my oh's mum and sister constantly hounded me about it.

Yes and you think breastfeeders don't get that and that's what bugs me! I'm sorry for what you've been through but I didn't do that to you someone ELSE did. I've already admitted I overeacted because of life stuff and shouldnt have sorry. But you say here - none of it is stuff I couldn't have said myself:

It just bothers me that just because I don't formula feed, any little thing I say that could even be INTERPRETED as negative is taken way too hard.

I am happy to breastfeed but do you kow how degrading it was in the early days when Anna would need to nurse in public and people would give me the DIRTIEST looks imagineable no matter how much I tried to be descrete, and people would even come up to me - strangers - and dare to tell me to STOP feeding my child?

There was the consultant when she was born pushing bottle on to me, telling my my baby could DIE with blood clotting problems without vitamin k that isn't in breastmilk, the health visitor telling me she wasn't putting on enough weight and following her stupid charts that are made around bottle fed babies anyway and that's not to mention my In laws don't even get me STARTED on my inlaws!

My mother in law and sister in laws seem to think it is perfectly fine to question me every time they see me when I will be putting her on bottles and then to hound me on msn even when I am not there and accuse me of all sorts I never done (like judging bottle feeders - what just because i breastfeed I am instantly anti-bottle!? NO!) and like I only breastfeed for attention!?

I am sick to my stomach of it I wish people would just let me get on with it and yes most of it isn't even on here but we ARE faced with the same things as FFers and it's when people say things like you did like "I never seen FFers giving BFers a hard time!" well you HAVEN'T BEEN IN MY SHOES to see it! It happens trust me!

I just, wish everyone would leave everyone alone to get on with it. But I do hate it when people think it's only FFers who are judged and paint all BFers with the same judgemental brush. It's not the case

I am sorry for going on again this isn't a dig at anyone. I am so stressed right now so shouldn't even be here talking about this and I am truly - I truly am sorry if I have upset anyone. Ryder I didn't mean to offend you at all. I am sorry to all I may have offended tonite I really didn't mean to and I shouldn't let things pile up at home and then vent them out on here, sometimes you can't help it you know? We all have our shitty days, right?

 

[Alexas Mommy]

Tasha, I have never thought bfers have it easy.. they dont and i've said many times my hats off to them for going through what they do... It just bothers me that since I dont bf any little thing thats said negative is taken way too hard.

Im happy I chose to stop bfing, but do you know how degrading it was in the beginning when people would ask if I was nursing... and I said, no im bottlefeeding? The look people give says it all.. on top of that my oh's mum and sister constantly hounded me about it.

Yes and you think breastfeeders don't get that and that's what bugs me! I'm sorry for what you've been through but I didn't do that to you someone ELSE did. I've already admitted I overeacted because of life stuff and shouldnt have sorry. But you say here - none of it is stuff I couldn't have said myself:

It just bothers me that just because I don't formula feed, any little thing I say that could even be INTERPRETED as negative is taken way too hard.

I am happy to breastfeed but do you kow how degrading it was in the early days when Anna would need to nurse in public and people would give me the DIRTIEST looks imagineable no matter how much I tried to be descrete, and people would even come up to me - strangers - and dare to tell me to STOP feeding my child?

There was the consultant when she was born pushing bottle on to me, telling my my baby could DIE with blood clotting problems without vitamin k that is in breastmilk, the health visitor telling me she wasn't putting on enough weight and following her stupid charts that are made around bottle fed babies anyway and that's not to mention my In laws don't even get me STARTED on my inlaws!

My mother in law and sister in laws seem to think it is perfectly fine to question me every time they see me when I will be putting her on bottles and then to hound me on msn even when I am not there and accuse me of all sorts I never done (like judging bottle feeders - what just because i breastfeed I am instantly anti-bottle!? NO!) and like I only breastfeed for attention!?

I am sick to my stomach of it I wish people would just let me get on with it and yes most of it isn't even on here but we ARE faced with the same things as FFers and it's when people say things like you did like "I never seen FFers giving BFers a hard time!" well you HAVEN'T BEEN IN MY SHOES to see it! It happens trust me!

I just, wish everyone would leave everyone alone to get on with it. But I do hate it when people think it's only FFers who are judged and paint all BFers with the same judgemental brush. It's not the case

I am sorry for going on again this isn't a dig at anyone. I am so stressed right now so shouldn't even be here talking about this and I am truly - I truly am sorry if I have upset anyone. Ryder I didn't mean to offend you at all. I am sorry to all I may have offended tonite I really didn't mean to and I shouldn't let things pile up at home and then vent them out on here, sometimes you can't help it you know? We all have our shitty days, right?

Tasha

 

[AppleBlossom]

Erm... well I don't let anyone make me feel bad about the fact I stopped breastfeeding. I stopped because it was just too painful and Grace would get so frustrated and once I moved to bottles she was so much happier feeding. I completely salute those of you that are able to breastfeed for 6, 9, 12 months. I only breastfed for 2 weeks but I passed on my vital antibodies to Grace and gave her a good start, yes, but it's not for everyone. Formula milk has lots of goodness in too otherwise why would they bother doing it?

 

[Pyrrhic]

This is in relation to public feeding, not BnB, but I think people will always be judged, whether they FF or BF in public. I feel awful everytime I need to feed Niamh, whether its EMB or BFing as I get dirty looks regardless. I think you just have to do what you feel is right by you and your baby and try to ignore people around you. Easier said than done though. When did feeding your child by breast OR bottle become so taboo?

 

[TashaAndBump]

When did feeding your child by breast OR bottle become so taboo?

Hear hear! This is what I'd like to know

 

[AppleBlossom]

I agree, feeding your child in any way in public shouldn't be so taboo. I don't understand why people are so offended by BFing??

Anyway I agree with a few of the others, the article is just making you aware of possibilities. They warn you about SIDs but that doesn't mean that your baby will die when they are in their cot. It's just something that rarely happens but if they didn't tell you about it and something was to happen, imagine the uproar??

 

[Wobbles]

You know what i dont think BF mummies should look at it in a bad way at all.

How many of us actually knew that this could happen and were completely aware of the risk and what could happen. Very few i imagine so it could well end up saving a baby from becoming seriously sick.

They wouldnt of done the study if there was no need for it, those things cost a lot of money its not something people do because they are bored lol

I'm not saying the study shouldn't go ahead, I think I said in my post above that it was a good thing to investigate it. However I do think it will cause unnecessary stress and worry for new breastfeeding mums. Mum's whose milk hasn't come in yet (perfectly normal for the first few days) may think "Oh my baby isn't getting enough milk she must be dehydrating - BETTER put her on formula then!" There's nothing wrong with formula but that would be a shame if the mother wanted to breastfeed and only quit because of this 'risk' that isn't very real at all it is that rare.

There is enough scare mongering about the way you feed your baby these days. No need to add to it, if you know what I mean.

Sorry Tasha I've only read the next page of this topic from my last reply so please don't take this personal just an opposite thought of what you have said ...not that I disagree with comment not at all but (and no I don't mean you but a general observation) its funny how some people are that in your face that they tell you your baby by study is likely to have a higher risk of death as a baby if formula fed compared to a breastfed baby etc ...so whist people mention the stress that it can bring to Mum struggling to BF imagine getting to that point of not being able having to give in despite your efforts and someone comes along and tells you that? And oh boy it was done on this very forum. What about the stress and pressure put on undecided Mums and ill feeling of their choice because people say 'I dont understand why people wouldnt' Blergh!

Again hun not personal to you just those words I had a thought over is all x

 

[Pyrrhic]

I agree, feeding your child in any way in public shouldn't be so taboo. I don't understand why people are so offended by BFing??

Not just BFing, but bottle feeding too. You can't please anyone. I get dirty looks for BFing, and dirty looks for bottle feeding in public. I get really angry about it. Why should feeding my baby in public cause people to react like that? It's not like I'm making them drink my breast milk!

 

[Wobbles]

But it shouldn't scare them away? That's not really fair is it. This shouldn't be a thing to be feared, but to be acknowledged. Why would you think it's alright for someone to be scared away from their choice of feeding?

Why should people hide the realities? Thats not really fair to anyone either.

We shouldn't "hide the realities"...

Why then, is it against the BnB rules to state that breast milk is generally better for babies than formula? That is factually true. It is reality, yet anyone brave enough to say so is condemned here.

Hmmm I've got a funny view on your idea of not hiding reality Ryder. Seems your idea would be censoring anything positive about breast, putting breastfeeders in a bad light, and claiming that bottle was sent down from heaven to save people from having to breastfeed, which is clearly inferior.

Nevermind, I'm just fed up - sick to my stomach of having to walk on egg shells to protect the feelings of bottlfeeders, while they walk all over mine and label us as bullies when I've never seen anything but the opposite - EVERYWHERE I go.

I've just had enough

Don't mind it when its sensible Theres pros and cons that can be discussed based on different people, bodies, life styles even babies ...Some people do tend to go on the big I am drama rather than mature discussion ... mememe! Thats where these discussions go OTT imo

It is a touchy topic when the pros or cons of any feeding get brought up but end of day imo its about what Mum is comfy with and no Mum nomatter what their choice was should feel uncomfortable ...this topic for example is about a possible con a rare one, on one certain method of feeding (does it matter which really) why does ANYONE ever try to defend anything other than Mums choice ...thats why people fight not because of anything other than lacking respect to others peoples choices and getting on with your own!

Makes me laugh when people BF'ing say (not directed at you Tasha or anyone else) "I don't have to defend my choices Im fedup of explaining myself" yet they do ...constantly Its like why! My attitude personally is I decided to formula feed ...so what? Whos business is that? I get pissed off when its made out to feel like we're giving our babies petrol in a bottle etc

Hopefully makes sense

But don't get upset over this topic - we're all loving our babies right? x

 

[Wobbles]

I agree, feeding your child in any way in public shouldn't be so taboo. I don't understand why people are so offended by BFing??

Not just BFing, but bottle feeding too. You can't please anyone. I get dirty looks for BFing, and dirty looks for bottle feeding in public. I get really angry about it. Why should feeding my baby in public cause people to react like that? It's not like I'm making them drink my breast milk!

You express and give bottle?

Interesting reply though that both ways have got you odd looks.

 

[Pyrrhic]

Yep. Well I did until recently. I'm BFing in public now as I have just come to think 'sod it'. I have bottle fed since last week in public because I was embarrassed and we had so many problems BFing at first that I didn't want everyone to see me struggle with Niamh for 15mins before we got a proper latch. I used a BFing cover when in public, so it's not like I'm flashing my boobs around either. I found I got 'looks' with both bottle and breast. I think it's a shame that Mums can't get in right (in the eyes of the public) when all we are trying to do is whats best for OUR babies. No one has any right to judge.

 

[Wobbles]

Been sat here last hour getting niggles! Please FFs my local hospital doesn't have the internet so behave

 

[Vickie]

Yep. Well I did until recently. I'm BFing in public now as I have just come to think 'sod it'. I have bottle fed since last week in public because I was embarrassed and we had so many problems BFing at first that I didn't want everyone to see me struggle with Niamh for 15mins before we got a proper latch. I used a BFing cover when in public, so it's not like I'm flashing my boobs around either. I found I got 'looks' with both bottle and breast. I think it's a shame that Mums can't get in right (in the eyes of the public) when all we are trying to do is whats best for OUR babies. No one has any right to judge.

couldn't agree more. I've gotten looks for bottle feeding and honestly we try our best to go out around Hannah's feed schedule (easier now that she's weaned )

 

[Vickie]

Been sat here last hour getting niggles! Please FFs my local hospital doesn't have the internet so behave

 

[Wobbles]

Yep. Well I did until recently. I'm BFing in public now as I have just come to think 'sod it'. I have bottle fed since last week in public because I was embarrassed and we had so many problems BFing at first that I didn't want everyone to see me struggle with Niamh for 15mins before we got a proper latch. I used a BFing cover when in public, so it's not like I'm flashing my boobs around either. I found I got 'looks' with both bottle and breast. I think it's a shame that Mums can't get in right (in the eyes of the public) when all we are trying to do is whats best for OUR babies. No one has any right to judge.

Aww hun thats terrible can understand that maybe you were uncomfy as you were having difficulty but for it not to just be about that is terrible I do agree completely and always have that Mum shouldn;t feel like that regardless of what I or anyone else thinks. I'd slap someone myself for trying to stop a Mum nursing I dunno why but I do feel uncomfy about the idea but maybe thats because I didn't feel comfy about BF'ing when my OH wanted me to and nothing to do with another Mummys choice - if makes sense?

Hope its got easier for you now?

x

 

[Linzi]

I actually agree with Tash on this one. I sometimes feel whatever I say about my choice to BF Ill be 'bullying' someone who chose formula feeding, however its not possible for a formula feeding mum to do the same back? Ive thought that many a time on here but not said anything tbh.

Ive had nothing but greif from people (outside this board obvs) about breastfeeding, even my family and friends, its been made so hard for me that eventually I stopped (longer story than that but basics). I think Ive been congratulated once for breastfeeding my son exclusively to 4 months and he's still getting 2 breast feeds a day now and he's 8 1/2 months. And tbh I think I deserve some congrats because it's damn hard work.

Before anyone takes this the wrong way I have no problems whatsoever with ladies who choose to formula feed because at the end of the day it just doesn't matter as long as you are actually feeding your baby. I just think sometimes people don't see that breastfeeding mummys get the same flack as formula feeding mummys.

And back to the original point, breastmilk is made up of a lot more water than formula so its not as necessary to give BF babies a drink of water on top of their milk, whereas formula is heavier so really that report should have been done about either kind of milk surely?

xxx

 

[AppleBlossom]

And back to the original point, breastmilk is made up of a lot more water than formula so its not as necessary to give BF babies a drink of water on top of their milk, whereas formula is heavier so really that report should have been done about either kind of milk surely?

xxx

I thought this too

 

[Wobbles]

I actually agree with Tash on this one. I sometimes feel whatever I say about my choice to BF Ill be 'bullying' someone who chose formula feeding, however its not possible for a formula feeding mum to do the same back? Ive thought that many a time on here but not said anything tbh.

xxx

It is so touchy Its hard to keep all us Mummys happy

However its usually a mixture of various users that get tangled in the middle of someone elses 'dig' that creates riot usually leaving everyone feeling like ****. Ive never seen you as a person to make digs.

x

 

[Mamafy]

Been sat here last hour getting niggles! Please FFs my local hospital doesn't have the internet so behave

I'll take my phone to bed then