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breastfeedin in public

Lyns don't take me wrong on this because I do believe Mummys should be able to breastfeed in public places a child needs fed end of and no shouldn't be bannished to the Mum & baby rooms (I read that somewhere) but a part of your post:

They presume you need to wave huge bare breasts around in front of everyone to actually make it clear that you are breastfeeding and nothing could be further from the truth
A general answer not one specific but some women do get on like this - you have to know that :lol: Not you maybe but some women are very rude in yoru face about it (why?) and so what who gives a hoot about it which when a woman is like that its obvious to all around! When a nursing Mum is just feeding her baby relaxed not wanting attention and so on nobody notices ... An example and I hope Helen with twins does not mind me mentioning this last year we had a meet at Chester Zoo Helen & some others were in before us ...we found them amoung soooo many people in the eatting/picnic area and I was talking away to her ....15 minutes later I realised she was breastfeeding :D I was awwww you know why because I have seen women just whip their boobies out undiscreetly pulling faces.

Hope that doesn't comes across wrong because as I say I do think women should be able to breastfeed when out and about & I feel for anyone who comes acorss any unnessasary situations & humilation for it

x

that didnt come across wrong somewomen are very in ur face but like u said on the whole most women will bf unoticed.

when i bf jack his head coversmost of the boob and my tshirt and muslin ensure the rest is covered xx
 
Found this on the internet, which covers laws regarding bfing in public;

"July 08
The Government Equalities Office has confirmed that:1) There is not, and never has been, any law that prohibits a woman from breastfeeding a child of any age in public, for example in a cafe.

2) The 1975 Sexual Discrimination Act created legal protection for a woman under the provision of goods, facilities and services section. This protection covered a woman breastfeeding a child, of any age, by implication, and meant that she could not be discriminated against for breastfeeding in places such as restaurants, cafes, surgeries, libraries etc.

3) The 2008 amendment to the SDA brought in more specific cover under the wording of ‘maternity’ – this also brought in the first mention of a six-month period, as it is tied to broader maternity rights covering 6 months before and after birth – whereby a mother could also challenge the owner under the grounds of maternity

4) The Equality Bill seeks to make it even more explicit that this maternity protection includes breastfeeding, by including the word breastfeeding in the statute.

So, for example, if a mother who is breastfeeding a 27 week old baby on a bus or in a café is asked to leave or to stop breastfeeding, she can take legal action on the grounds of sexual discrimination. If that same mother was feeding a child under 26 weeks, she could take action under the grounds of maternity or sexual discrimination.

Deputy Minister for Women Barbara Follett concluded: “Mothers have to be confident that they can breastfeed their infants in a café, restaurant or shop without the embarrassment of having the owner ask them to stop. This type of discrimination has in fact been unlawful for more than thirty years, and the mother - with a baby of any age - could challenge the owner under the Sex Discrimination Act.”
 
Lyns don't take me wrong on this because I do believe Mummys should be able to breastfeed in public places a child needs fed end of and no shouldn't be bannished to the Mum & baby rooms (I read that somewhere) but a part of your post:

They presume you need to wave huge bare breasts around in front of everyone to actually make it clear that you are breastfeeding and nothing could be further from the truth
A general answer not one specific but some women do get on like this - you have to know that :lol: Not you maybe but some women are very rude in yoru face about it (why?) and so what who gives a hoot about it which when a woman is like that its obvious to all around! When a nursing Mum is just feeding her baby relaxed not wanting attention and so on nobody notices ... An example and I hope Helen with twins does not mind me mentioning this last year we had a meet at Chester Zoo Helen & some others were in before us ...we found them amoung soooo many people in the eatting/picnic area and I was talking away to her ....15 minutes later I realised she was breastfeeding :D I was awwww you know why because I have seen women just whip their boobies out undiscreetly pulling faces.

Hope that doesn't comes across wrong because as I say I do think women should be able to breastfeed when out and about & I feel for anyone who comes acorss any unnessasary situations & humilation for it

x


Absolutely, hun. I couldn't agree more with you.:hugs:

My point was very much (and probably could have been worded better to reflect it - isn't hindsight wonderful!) is that it doesn't have to be that you 'wave them around in public'. In fact I have less time for the woman that do. I still respect their right to breastfeed in public, but I don't stand up in a restaurant before my dinner and let everyone know I am about to start eating, I just quietly get on with it, same as my daughter does when she's feeding from me!

In fact, at nearly 17 months, Morgandie can be a right wriggler now, and she's already learnt if she doesn't feed quietly, she doesn't get it!

I guess the thing is that there is a certain type of person who will always want to attract attention to themselves, be it breastfeeding, sunbathing, or in a nightclub! (totally random thoughts btw....not picking on sunbathers or clubbers at all!) 99% of the time its harmless, but sadly sometimes it just is a bit OTT and can give whatever they are doing a bit of a bad rep for others.
 
Lyns- just a quick question- the letter specifically mentions protection if the baby is less than 6 months..so what does that mean if baby is over 6 months.

Also, I'm just curious- you said mommas milk saved your baby- would you mind telling your story again or tell me where to find it...I love wonderful stories like that!

Hi Ragirl, Lauren-Kate has picked up the legislation perfectly a couple of posts above this. There is a specific law protecting the right to bf under 6 months but above 6 months mothers and babies are protected as part of a wider legislation...ie discrimination.

My story, or rather my daughters is a long one. But in a very basic nutshell, she was diagnosed with a rare childhood cancer at 6 weeks old. A tumour in her tummy the size of an apple. I had struggeled to breastfed her through the challenges of (a still undivided!) tongue-tie, severe inverted nipples and a general lack of knowledge and initial support, but was lucky that i perservered and found an LC to help.

My daughter, Morgandie, bravely faced a real battle through several rounds of chemo and surgery throughout the first year of her life. Her immune system was reduced to nothing, and the doctors warned us that the real threat probably wasn't the cancer, and that a/ she would probably inevitably contract infection at some point due to the lack of immune system which could be devasting as her body had nothing to fight it with, and b/ being so young, it would be hard for her tiny little body to tolerate anything in the way of food throughout the treatment and weightloss could make her weaker and more susceptible.

With all this in mind, i couldn't think of a more perfect food than my breastmilk....for the following 6 months she shared my antibodies and fought every threat that came her way a lot better than most healthy children. She sailed through coughs and colds....without even needing hospitalisation. She never got anything more serious, despite threats from both chickenpox and measles. The doctors were amazed, as even a slight cold should habe been life-threatening, and she never lost weight. Admittedly, she struggled to put it on at the rate healthy children do, but the doctors were amazed she gained any at all.

16 months on, we have a healthy cancer-free daughter. She has a scans and check ups at Gt Ormond St hospital for sick children every 3 months. We have one next week and I feel sick thinking about it, but the doctors have given her a 90% chance of no further issues and they firmly beleive that she would not have had anywhere near the protection and strength she had if it hadn't have been for me feeding her. This is the very reason I am so passionate about it now an have taken time to train as a bf supporter to help other mum's who want to give the same to their, hopefully healthy, babies.

Sorrry for the hijack.....I'm happy to chat more about this, if it can help or inspire anyone, but if anyone wants to, drop me pm and I'll start a whole new thread wth the full story!
 
not just the law thats the problem though, its other people

i was bitched at today by 3 old ladies

grr

xxx
 
What an inspiring story Lyns...thanks for sharing! I certainly understand why you are so passionate- although certainly understanding the benefits of mm to bolster a baby's immune system, I never thought about the fact it could kind of be a subsitute immune system in a situation like yours. Great job overcoming all those obstacles!!
 
not just the law thats the problem though, its other people

i was bitched at today by 3 old ladies

grr

xxx

I'm kind of surprised- it seems like older ladies wouldn't care as much as they are from the generation that bf more I thought.
 
As for the whole "showing the whole boob thing," I also have to wonder how many times when "a woman was flashing her whole boob out there" it was really intentional, or how many times baby suddenly pulled off or moved when mom wasn't expecting it. I know there were a few instances where all my stuff was hanging out in public (more so in the beginning) not because I wanted it to be but because he surprised me. I suppose if someone had caught me just at that time they would think it was "in there face." Though I'd also like to think they might take a second to notice my beat red face and scramble to either get him latched back on or cover up.
 
not just the law thats the problem though, its other people

i was bitched at today by 3 old ladies

grr

xxx

I'm kind of surprised- it seems like older ladies wouldn't care as much as they are from the generation that bf more I thought.

Well thats what I thought and when I was telling MIL she said the same thing!

They just basically sat there and stared and started saying very loudly things like "well, you wouldn't have thought she would do it in the middle of BHS cafe' and 'its putting me off my cream cake'.

Why?

And then when I burped him and he projectile vomited everywhere all over me they laughed their heads off.

Idiots.

You're right, they must be jelous. I have nice boobs.

xxx
 
it really annoys me when people say that i would say ur face is putting my son off his milk x
 
Up until today, I had never seen a woman really obviously breastfeeding, but I was in a store queue today, and there was a woman in front of me with her child (definitely not a baby - looked at least 5-6 years old) when it suddenly said "Mummy, I'm thirsty." Mummy replies "Well, help yourself, you know where it is" and child proceeds to lift up her top and feed on her breast... The mother didn't make any effort to cuddle her son nor make it less obvious about what she was doing. This I did find quite gross and slightly offensive.

However, for the most part, I think breastfeeding women make as much effort as possible to be discreet and cover up; I know I get embarrassed if Anna has a wiggle and people get a flash of my nipple but usually I am successfully discreet and I quite often get people approaching me who haven't realised I'm feeding Anna (they just think she's asleep and having a cuddle) and they end up getting apologetic and embarrassed-looking when they notice.

I'd say I'm successful most of the time at least - when on the train to Wales and back I fed Anna on the train (even in 1st class) without anyone clocking on to what I was doing! Its not always possible to feed without a small flash - accidents happen, especially when bubs gets more active... but I'm just feeding my baby, not playing peek-a-boo!
 
Up until today, I had never seen a woman really obviously breastfeeding, but I was in a store queue today, and there was a woman in front of me with her child (definitely not a baby - looked at least 5-6 years old) when it suddenly said "Mummy, I'm thirsty." Mummy replies "Well, help yourself, you know where it is" and child proceeds to lift up her top and feed on her breast... The mother didn't make any effort to cuddle her son nor make it less obvious about what she was doing. This I did find quite gross and slightly offensive.

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think i would be offended kby that thats a bit extreme x
 
I've really had my eyes opened in these past few days! I've always just considered breastfeeding as a normal, natural thing. Thought nothing more of it...

Now I realise that some people are actually really offended by it, and some are REALLY misguided and think we have a choice whether to feed our babies when out, or we should stay in, or give our baby a bottle, or not feed on demand, or EVEN that we do it just to offend and embarrass other people, and are deliberately in-your-face and get some kind of kicks from it!

I wonder what people would get more offended and likely to complain about, in the same public park / green / woods / beach: A woman sitting on a bench discretely feeding her baby, or a woman laying topless, sunbathing!

There is NOTHING sexual about breastfeeding, and hardly any of the breast is actually seen, it's best for baby and it naturally works on an on-demand basis, so if you choose to breastfeed (after all, the government and health professionals are always shoving it down our throats that "breast is best") you just WILL need to feed your baby in public at least sometimes - there's no avoiding it, even if you want to.

After browsing online forums on people's opinions on this, I now feel really self-conscious about feeding Anna in public.

What is a mum to do? All I want to do is what is best for my daughter, but people always seem to want to interfere or judge you: You're scowled at for giving baby a bottle and judged for not giving your baby what is 'best' for them, and you're judged if you breastfeed in public because you're a so-called exhibitionist, feminist making a point or wanting to make other people uncomfortable by waving your tit around.

Pfft. I think it's a shame that we are made to feel uncomfortable or embarrassed, or judged... I guess it's best just to ignore what other people think, or may say to you about feeding your baby (whether you're bottle or boob feeding) - Just do what you know is best - It's your baby, and your right to choose after all!
 
I guess it's best just to ignore what other people think, or may say to you about feeding your baby (whether you're bottle or boob feeding) - Just do what you know is best - It's your baby, and your right to choose after all!

Well said! As long as you are comfortable that you are doing what you feel is best for your baby, and your baby is happy, healthy and well looked after then that's what is important.

And what does it really matter what some old woman that a/ you'll never see again, and b/ is about 50 years out of date on her information, thinks?
 

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