Can anyone shed some light on IUI odds?

[zeezee]

Oh Wallie sweetheart, I was so devastated after my first IUI didn't work, I was really a mess - I think we put so much of our hope in it. onward and upward wallie - this one could be your time One thing - that seems to be a super short leutal phase, you should mention this to your dr and get your progeterone levels checked maybe - and maybe ask for progesterone support after IUI next cycle.

Britt - any news?

The witch arrived at mine this morning, bang on schedule. Onto last clomid cycle.

 

[mercyme]

I'm 9dpiui -- took clomid 50 mg x 2 / day, also did hcg trigger shot. Not feeling so hopeful about this, but OH is becoming less averse to doing IVF. That's a positive thing.

Wallie, I'm so sorry that it didn't work this time. Sounds like you're taking good care of yourself.

ZeeZee, sorry to hear that the showed up. You sound really optimistic for the next round, which is so great.

Brit, have fingers crossed that this works for you.

 

[Wallie]

Oh Wallie sweetheart, I was so devastated after my first IUI didn't work, I was really a mess - I think we put so much of our hope in it. onward and upward wallie - this one could be your time One thing - that seems to be a super short leutal phase, you should mention this to your dr and get your progeterone levels checked maybe - and maybe ask for progesterone support after IUI next cycle.

Britt - any news?

The witch arrived at mine this morning, bang on schedule. Onto last clomid cycle.

Yeh Zee, I did say that I spotted for quite a few days before full AF appears and they said they don't normally give progesterone to IUI ladies, just IVF ladies since their hormones are all messed up. I've just been reading up on spotting before AF and it's definitely progesterone dropping. I just really hope they take me seriously next cycle and give it to me. I just want to have family so much and if my next IUI doesn't work I've to wait until October 2011 before I can get IVF on the NHS.

 

[Britt11]

Hello beautiful ladies,
thanks so much for the lovely pma, you guys are wonderful. Well, I am joining you in the witch arrival team... unfortunately after being a full day late for AF and being 16dpo!!! hello!! thats a long LP not to get a BFP, my temp nose dived this morning and I have wicked AF cramps....she will show any minute. I was disappointed but after a year TTC, i am kind of getting used to it. Anyway, my plan this cycle is nothing!! completely natural TTC we are hopefully doing IVF in October and i need to be off Clomid for 2 full cycles anyway and i guess the odds are really low for IUI without medication, so I think we will just try on our own again this month

Wallie- I feel for you hon, i know how hard it is for it not to be successful, but as Zeezee stated that is a very short LP phase especially with Clomid so yeah getting your progesterone tested would probably be a good thing. Fx'd for next cycle hon

Zeezee- so sorry the witch got you, man you and I are like sisters, on the exact cycle it seems...lol. YOu seem to have great pma though, what are your plans for this cycle?


Hello Mercyme- good luck, hope you are wrong and you get a BFP this cycle!!

MrsS- I see you are CD11, are you doing IUI again this cycle? good luck

 

[mrssunshine78]

aww ladies sorry the evil witch has arrived again, why can't she just stay away???

i'm doing iui again this cycle, last natural cycle before clomid (i say natural, i take soy, epo and starflower oil!), it'll be either thursday or friday, just want to get it over with - lol!!

britt just read that you said you can't do ivf until 2 cycles after clomid? is that what they recommend? that means i'll have to wait til jan before i can have ivf as if i haven't waited long enough already!!! god ttc is a nightmare!

xx

 

[Britt11]

aww ladies sorry the evil witch has arrived again, why can't she just stay away???

i'm doing iui again this cycle, last natural cycle before clomid (i say natural, i take soy, epo and starflower oil!), it'll be either thursday or friday, just want to get it over with - lol!!

britt just read that you said you can't do ivf until 2 cycles after clomid? is that what they recommend? that means i'll have to wait til jan before i can have ivf as if i haven't waited long enough already!!! god ttc is a nightmare!

xx

yes hon, 2 full cycles off of Clomid before you can do IVF, but thats here in Cgy, Canada. I know protocols vary a ton from clinic to clinic, so it might be different for you. Fx'd you dont need it!! I plan on getting pregnant naturally one of these 2 cycles before!!

 

[CrazyBird]

Hi Ladies

I've only posted on here a couple of times but just wanted to let you know i got a BFP last week from our first try from IUI. We feel very lucky as we have been ttc for 2 long years. We're just hoping it sticks.

Don't ever give up on your dream to have a baby, i nearly did but so glad we kept on going

Sending lots of babydust xxxx

 

[Britt11]

Hi Ladies

I've only posted on here a couple of times but just wanted to let you know i got a BFP last week from our first try from IUI. We feel very lucky as we have been ttc for 2 long years. We're just hoping it sticks.

Don't ever give up on your dream to have a baby, i nearly did but so glad we kept on going

Sending lots of babydust xxxx

Huge Congrats to you!! thanks for sharing your story
H&H 9 months

 

[mercyme]

Crazybird, that is wonderful news -- congratulations!! Sending sticky vibes your way.

BLEH to the witch, sunshine & britt & wallie. I'm still days away from knowing for sure, but it's such a long shot with the very, very low sc. On the other hand, the long shot worked 6 months ago... who knows!

 

[zeezee]

Thanks y'all for your lovely comments. I am sad, but I will be honest, I had a dream mid-cycle that said "it will take three times" so I am running with that and living in hope. I am in a strange situation, I am not a LLTC'er per se - I got pregnant first cycle off the pill in Feburary, but had a MMC at 7 weeks - I am now starting my 4th cycle after the d&c. The reason I am doing IUI and all of this, then given I obviously ovulate and can get preggo is that my endo and pcos will get progressively worse until pregnancy is impossible, so the thought of the drs is to get my preggo quickly. Unfort its not as quick as hoped and the cramps and pain are really getting bad again - I cramped the entire cycle this last one.

Anyway, clomid (150 or 200mg) and IUI this cycle, and then I re-assess whether I do a natural one or two or move onto injectibles and IUI. Then I guess I will be a LTTC'er and will look at IVF. Problem is that IVF is insanely expensive in the US and my insurance won't cover it - so I am thinking of doing it in my home country of Australia where it is $2k out of pocket instead of 10k.

Britt - sweetheart I am so sorry, I had high hopes for you. But lovely wonderful people attract lovely wonderful things, so I expect a bfp soon Could it be that you actually ov'd a day later than you thought? Its uncommon for your LP to change.

Wallie - def discusss progesterone supplements with your dr before next cycle, that's not right they restrict until IVF - the supps should not be procedure based, but instead patient based.

Love to you all.

Z
xx

 

[Britt11]

Thanks y'all for your lovely comments. I am sad, but I will be honest, I had a dream mid-cycle that said "it will take three times" so I am running with that and living in hope. I am in a strange situation, I am not a LLTC'er per se - I got pregnant first cycle off the pill in Feburary, but had a MMC at 7 weeks - I am now starting my 4th cycle after the d&c. The reason I am doing IUI and all of this, then given I obviously ovulate and can get preggo is that my endo and pcos will get progressively worse until pregnancy is impossible, so the thought of the drs is to get my preggo quickly. Unfort its not as quick as hoped and the cramps and pain are really getting bad again - I cramped the entire cycle this last one.

Anyway, clomid (150 or 200mg) and IUI this cycle, and then I re-assess whether I do a natural one or two or move onto injectibles and IUI. Then I guess I will be a LTTC'er and will look at IVF. Problem is that IVF is insanely expensive in the US and my insurance won't cover it - so I am thinking of doing it in my home country of Australia where it is $2k out of pocket instead of 10k.

Britt - sweetheart I am so sorry, I had high hopes for you. But lovely wonderful people attract lovely wonderful things, so I expect a bfp soon Could it be that you actually ov'd a day later than you thought? Its uncommon for your LP to change.

Wallie - def discusss progesterone supplements with your dr before next cycle, that's not right they restrict until IVF - the supps should not be procedure based, but instead patient based.

Love to you all.

Z
xx

Hi Hon,
thanks for sharing your information. Very interesting, the fact that you guys have already been able to conceive is an awesome sign...DH and I havent had a single BFP yet...so it makes me wonder what is going on...my thought is that sperm and egg are not meeting- he thinks I am not implanting, but my gut tells me no.
Its so funny that you picked up on my O date, I agree, could i have possibly O'd a day later despite my temp increase (our clinic tells us to ignore temps anyway) I think you may be right and DH was too tired to have sex the next day so we really only relied on the IUI...this cycle he better be a more willing participant.
Zeezee, I wish you all the luck and like people say, 3rd time is the charm. I am suprisied that he would put you on such high dose Clomid if you O on your own- I tired 100mg once and i had such awful gas pains I couldnt move for a day (overstimulation I guess) so he told me to go back to 50mg. Hope this is the right combo for you though.
anyway, hard to say whats going on with DH and I, but hopefully we see that bfp very soon

look forward to hearing your updates. Even though we are not doing IUI this cycle, I will continue on the thread for sure (may do unmedicated IUI next cycle...depends how I'm feeling)

 

[MarsMaiden]

Sybil - that sounds great, so pleased that they are letting you continue with the cycle. 26% is great odds, better than most have for IVF so fingers crossed this will be the cycle for you!

Wallie - so sorry this cycle hasn't worked for you. As others have said, I would definitely ask about progesterone support, it would be in your clinics interest as they are only wasting money if they don't give the cycles the best chance of succeeding and the pessaries are such a simple answer to the problem.

Zee and Britt - can't believe you both missed out on this cycle as well. good luck for whatever you decide next...

mrssunshine - how are you getting on hon? still on schedule for this week?

mercyme - best of luck to you, hope that this is your BFP!

crazybird - congrats on your BFP and thanks for sharing, it helps to give us all hope!

I am off for my scan tomorrow at 11am, I can't wait!! Am feeling extremely full in my tummy so reallly hoping that there are some nice big follies in there! (although not too many, my clinic is so strict on not allowing more than 3 lol!!)

 

[mercyme]

I just finished reading Philippa Gregory's Boleyn books... am very glad that I'm not married to a 16th c. baby-crazy tyrant. Think about how bad their 2ww (more like 8ww) must've been!

Am trying to count blessings... It's hard.

 

[mrssunshine78]

Congrats on your bfp crazybird - hope everything goes well for you

mars hope your scan goes well today, think it'll be fri for my iui, still showing lows on cbfm, but hopefully high tomorrow, then peak friday

hope everyone else is doing well


xxxx

 

[MarsMaiden]

So I am back from my scan but not feeling great. I had lots of follies but all very small. The only half decent size ones were on the left, one at 14mm and one at 15mm. Because they don't want the smaller ones to catch up, I have to trigger tomorrow and will have the IUI on Thursday. I just don't understand how they think it will work when last time I had two 14mm follies on the Monday and had the IUI four days later how the same size follies are going to be big enough for an IUI in only two days now??!

I have just given up all hope of this cycle working now, what's the point? And when I asked them if it was enough time, I got what seems to be the standard response now to any questions I ask - 'It should be OK'. Well that's so reassuring!

 

[Wallie]

Marsmaiden - I had a 15mm and 16mm on the Monday, trigger shot on Tuesday at 5:30pm and then IUI on the Thursday at around 11am. They say the follicles grow at 2mm per day, so they should be at least 16-18mm by the time you ovulate.

However, I'm starting to believe that assisted conception units just have a standard protocol and don't look at each individual case. I mean how do they know that when you give yourself the trigger that come Thursday you'll just have ovulated and the egg isn't older than 12 hours old? They don't scan you again any time after they've decided for you to have the trigger. Surely everyone is different and not all the same As my OH and I agreed last night, you can only be sure if you do something yourself these days, you can't rely on anyone. I wonder if ACU's just like to get you out of their hair and onto IVF. That is the only sure way of you having a really good chance of conceiving and they just do IUI's just to shut you up until you wait for IVF.

Sorry, I'm a bit peeved off, ha, can you tell! lol

Anyway, we all live in hope that IUI's work, and they do for some folk hang in there Marsmaiden.

 

[Sybil]

I also wonder the same thing Wallie...if they just do the IUI until they can move you on to IVF. I had a scan at my clinic on Friday and they said all was fine, after my scan on Wednesday showed 18 possibilities, some of them had supposedly dropped off by Friday. So they stopped all meds and were prepared to do the IUI on Monday or Tuesday. Saturday they had me back at the clinic (which is 3 hours away) for more blood work, and then again on Sunday for bloodwork and another scan. All of a sudden on Sunday, I had 18 possibilites again and 8 very large follicles, so the IUI has been cancelled and now they are worried about Ovarian Hyperstimulation. I am so fed up with the process that I just want to go to IVF!! I just now have to get my husband to agree!

 

[Wallie]

That's awful Sybil, all that mucking you about like that and now the possibility of OHSS and no IUI. I'm so sorry.

I thought I was bad having to do a 40 mile round trip for each hospital appointment but now I see I've gotten off very lightly compared to your situation.

I just hope I can get my OH to agree to paying for IVF now, as I can't wait over a year to try IVF. I'm already nearly 36 - eek!

 

[MarsMaiden]

thanks wallie. I'm afraid i still don't hold out much hope, it all seems to be on the edges of what's possible but then I'd love nothing better than to be proved wrong!!

and i think you are exactly right with the clinics and i find it so frustrating. what would it take for my clinic to scan me again later in the week then they could confirm that the follies were or weren't big enough and would know for sure whether the smaller ones had caught up or not but they just seem to want to save every penny and plough on regardless even if it's potentially an entire waste of time!!! arghhhhh!! I also dont get to see the FS again until I have had 3 failed IUIs but I think I might ask to see him before then assuming this cycle is a bust, their protocols clearly aren't working for me.

Have you started your second cycle already Wallie? Are you on injectables again?

Sybil - so sorry that you have been messed around, sometimes it is very difficult to get the doses right. I hope that the OHSS doesn't develop and that you can get on to your next cycle soon.

 

[Wallie]

I go in tomorrow to get my first internal scan for this cycle. I'll probably get my meds to take home with me and start later this week, probably Friday. If this cycles goes like the last one I should have my IUI maybe next Friday or Saturday. It all seems to be flying past so quickly. This is my final IUI though.