Chinese Accupuncture

[alison29]

HI Guys!,

I read this mornign about l arginine helping to increase blood to ovaries in older women and this beign a great thing. I don't know I will try to open the new link you sent. I have just started taking iron supps, my nails are brittle and i think this is why. I have been avoiding red meats because of hte endo thing and so probably reall deficient. This can effect ovulation too.

 

[alison29]

My DH always makes fun of my tummy and I know I look slightly pregnant. I am not really fat but because I have no muscles on my tummy it just sort of sticks out...

I know what you mean about the bottom part of tummy. When i weighed about ten poulds less i did not have it i think this is where my fat likes to settle. I was way too skinny before now i am at a "healthy" weight. Yeah my dh has asked me if i am pregnant and hiding it from him , nice right?

Another good thing about the l arginine is it says to help convert fat to muscle..

 

[Briss]

There is plenty of research confirming arginine's positive properties but there is also one that showed it can have negative effect. I will continue giving plenty to my DH but will stay away from it for a few cycles. I am back on EPO and iron this cycle.

Alison, what iron supps are you taking? I am taking Spatone Iron Sachets shttp://www.boots.com/en/Spatone-Iron-Sachets-28_4933/

I wish men could be a little more sensitive and stop noticing things that are wrong with us

 

[MalaMae]

Blythe, thanks for the article. Gave me good insight of the whole process of implantation.
Who knew something small as "oligosaccharides" can affect implantation and it can be found naturally in some vegetables. This is what I found online:
"...found naturally in Jerusalem artichoke, burdock, chicory, leek, onion and asparagus.
...Carrots are an excellent source of oligosaccharides but only after they have been cooked for an hour. This cooking breaks down the starches into the shorter chains needed for bioavailability. (Moro soup, invented by Dr Ernst Moro in Germany in 1908 has been used for decades to treat bacterial infections in humans and farm animals. This soup not only prevents the bacteria from attaching to the intestinal wall, but also prevents bacteria from reproducing, according to DW TV.)"

 

[Blythe]

Malamae thats great...thanks for info. I made a soup earlier tonight with veg stock, onions, carrots, lentils and left it to slow cook for well over an hour so that is well timed as if i was going to implant it would be next few days.

 

[MalaMae]

Blythe, nice temps!!!!! What a rise, 37 C! The acupuncture I guess works nicely Saw your previous and you have nice steady rise.
I have higher temps than usually too. My DH is convinced that I'm already pregnant

 

[Blythe]

Malamae they look great dont they but its a little misleading as I started temping vaginally a few days ago so they are higher than oral temps....and he rise could be due to the fact that I'm ill �� I always thought if I was pregnant then the rise would really kick in post implantation. Lovely temps for you. Everything crossed for a bfp ������

 

[MalaMae]

Thanks Blythe, they're quite higher than the usual
Booo, I thought you may be actually pregnant this time It'll happen.
Do you think that vaginal temps are more correct than the other way?

 

[FireBaby]

I switched to v temps 2 cycles ago - what I'm noticing is I get less weird spikes or drops in my temps they seem to be more consistent day to day which makes it easier to pick up when there's a real spike after Ov....definitely they are overall higher than when I was taking oral temps.....

 

[Blythe]

I took my temp V and it was 37 and orally it was just 36.5 so quite a difference....im going to stick with it as its easier and im no longer concerned re low temps and also encouraged by firebabys words.

I have just returned from acu and my doc said something incomprehensible at the end which was translated by his assistant who said to try to have sex around ovulation.......i reminded them i had been ttc for over 2 years so had a pretty good idea about that one! Anyhow, they then explained that im ready now as my circulation around womb etc is good....this cheered me up no end although maybe im out this cycle if he says to go for it next ovulation time......to be honest if i was guaranteed a bfp in the next few months i dont mind going without this one.

I told my dh who said at least i dont hAve to go anymore....i said i had two sessions left of this treatment cycle and he said ask for money back as he thinks im throwing my money away. we also had massive argument before i went as he says im obsessed with ttc and mope around moaning....how dare he! Of course he is right but it really p'd me off...i need his support not observations.

 

[alison29]

I don't think my iron supps are very good just picked up at super market and not seeing any dif in nails I will try out yours next. it has been only a week on them though

 

[notrustyyet]

Blythe, thanks for the article. Gave me good insight of the whole process of implantation.
Who knew something small as "oligosaccharides" can affect implantation and it can be found naturally in some vegetables. This is what I found online:
"...found naturally in Jerusalem artichoke, burdock, chicory, leek, onion and asparagus.
...Carrots are an excellent source of oligosaccharides but only after they have been cooked for an hour. This cooking breaks down the starches into the shorter chains needed for bioavailability. (Moro soup, invented by Dr Ernst Moro in Germany in 1908 has been used for decades to treat bacterial infections in humans and farm animals. This soup not only prevents the bacteria from attaching to the intestinal wall, but also prevents bacteria from reproducing, according to DW TV.)"

Wow, didn't know this but sometime. maybe 1/2 way? in my TTC journey started eating a lot more soup/stews after reading Inconceivable and Infertility Cure. Pressure cooked beef lentil especially with lots of carrots/leeks. Also really upped my asparagus intake, once I found those giant bags at Costco, great price...

 

[notrustyyet]

AF is here

I managed to open the pdf but could not locate the relevant bit. I did a bit a googling and apparently there was one study that showed arginine having a negative effect on female fertility. Was it this study that you were referring to? I could not get hold of the study itself yet.

Found a few new grey hairs this morning depressing. hubby says it's because I cry far too much but I am afraid it might be because I age prematurely, would explain high FSH though

https://igitur-archive.library.uu.nl/...11/boomsma.pdf

You have to go to Chapter 2.1, What Can Clinician Do to Improve Implantation, go to bottom of pg 27, "Adjuvant Pharmaceutical therapies" after aspirin is discussed, they discuss L-Arginine (=Nitric Oxide Donor) The article is highly technical, but I can read it along with the fertility MD right? Have to admit I became quite OCD during my TTC journey!

 

[MalaMae]

Blythe, thanks for the article. Gave me good insight of the whole process of implantation.
Who knew something small as "oligosaccharides" can affect implantation and it can be found naturally in some vegetables. This is what I found online:
"...found naturally in Jerusalem artichoke, burdock, chicory, leek, onion and asparagus.
...Carrots are an excellent source of oligosaccharides but only after they have been cooked for an hour. This cooking breaks down the starches into the shorter chains needed for bioavailability. (Moro soup, invented by Dr Ernst Moro in Germany in 1908 has been used for decades to treat bacterial infections in humans and farm animals. This soup not only prevents the bacteria from attaching to the intestinal wall, but also prevents bacteria from reproducing, according to DW TV.)"

Wow, didn't know this but sometime. maybe 1/2 way? in my TTC journey started eating a lot more soup/stews after reading Inconceivable and Infertility Cure. Pressure cooked beef lentil especially with lots of carrots/leeks. Also really upped my asparagus intake, once I found those giant bags at Costco, great price...

Congrats on your pregnancy! It's so encouraging to read your story

I think sometimes when we crave some food, our bodies are trying to tell us something, like me- I'm always craving chicken and vegetable soup; and raw leek. I wouldn't say that for the chocolate- I think I'm more addidcted to that then craving

 

[Briss]

MalaMae, lovely temp! high and steady. I am craving chocolate, so badly… not a day goes by without going though quite a few bars. For some reason it's so rare that I'd crave any food, if I could just live on chocolate I do not think I'd even bother with food, I do not enjoy it that much

 

[MalaMae]

MalaMae, lovely temp! high and steady. I am craving chocolate, so badly… not a day goes by without going though quite a few bars. For some reason it's so rare that I'd crave any food, if I could just live on chocolate I do not think I'd even bother with food, I do not enjoy it that much

Thanks Briss. I've never had temos like this!! I'm scared to be hopefull [-o<
I feel the same about the chocolate.

 

[Blythe]

MalaMae, lovely temp! high and steady. I am craving chocolate, so badly… not a day goes by without going though quite a few bars. For some reason it's so rare that I'd crave any food, if I could just live on chocolate I do not think I'd even bother with food, I do not enjoy it that much

Briss....how are you?

 

[Blythe]

MalaMae, lovely temp! high and steady. I am craving chocolate, so badly… not a day goes by without going though quite a few bars. For some reason it's so rare that I'd crave any food, if I could just live on chocolate I do not think I'd even bother with food, I do not enjoy it that much

Thanks Briss. I've never had temos like this!! I'm scared to be hopefull [-o<
I feel the same about the chocolate.

Malamae do you have any symptoms yet?

 

[MalaMae]

MalaMae, lovely temp! high and steady. I am craving chocolate, so badly… not a day goes by without going though quite a few bars. For some reason it's so rare that I'd crave any food, if I could just live on chocolate I do not think I'd even bother with food, I do not enjoy it that much

Thanks Briss. I've never had temos like this!! I'm scared to be hopefull [-o<
I feel the same about the chocolate.

Malamae do you have any symptoms yet?

Well since O my breasts have been tender and just before and on 6 DPO I felt tingling in uterus area. But now, nothing much. Maybe I'm not pregnant or maybe I am but maybe I'm one of those that won't have any symptoms.
A lot of maybes
We'll see tomorrow if temp drops.

 

[Briss]

MalaMae, fingers crossed your temp stays up

Blythe, thanks I think I am getting better. for some reason AF hit me really hard this time and I kind of sinked into depression feeling like it's all hopeless and could not quite snap out of it. Went for reflexology tonight - what a treat! I so wish I could afford it every day