Chinese Accupuncture

[Briss]

I still have one acu and 2 weeks of herbs but I am tempted to call it a day as soon as it's finished. it's not the first time I am bleeding, last time I bled from 3 needles and got bruising, was really glad it's winter so I have long sleeves and can wear black tights to work to hide it. she saw bleeding and just wiped it and pressed that point for a bit. she said it happens nothing to worry about. how can I not worry?

Also after almost 4 months of treating me I think I deserve to get some more info as to the progress. her assistant talks nonsense most of the time but I think it's common for chinese clinics, they always have a person who is responsible for selling stuff as opposed to treating patients. One thing that I expected to get better is acne but it's quite clearly just getting worse. She keeps needling my face and spots but I do not see any improvement. One thing that worked is she cleared my headache today by adding new needles to face/head.

I may try the Chinese medicine institute but this time before I start treatment I would really like to have a proper conversation to understand what deficiencies they can identify. I think I want it to be about my general health rather than conception. cant bear any more zigongs

after sleepless night I feel so tired and broken emotionally, been crying all day again. have a very bad metallic taste in my mouth

 

[Blythe]

Im so sorry you have been crying i think after 4 months you should have some gains from your treatment (weekly acu and daily herbs is quite intense) or at the very least a clear explanation of where she thinks you are in terms of getting your body balanced.

I am off for acu at lunch and have to say after 8 weeks of treatment i don't really feel any different...and my lower back is still playing up. But then i wonder if it has had an effect on my attitude because i do feel like making positive changes and doing yoga and stuff and eating better...or maybe its, as i mentioned yesterday, just fuelled by continued heartbreak.

My acu man uses the tiniest needles and my ovaries have never hurt during treatment (have ached after though) but the lady that used to do me used larger needles and they hurt like mad...anyhow treatments should not cause you pain

 

[Briss]

was very upset with my DH, he came up with a new craze - fasting! he is quite skinny as is and yet he is fasting himself to a state of ketosis, does not eat anything apart from supplements and water and coffee surely this cant be good for sperm, if there is any left ... we have been having so many arguments over this but i cant seem to win

My face is really bad, spots look so huge! do not know how i'm gonna face colleagues tomorrow, nothing i can do to cover them up.

My zigongs were always painful not just when she inserts needles but all the time until they are out. I am afraid to move and breathe cos even a slight movement makes it even more painful that's why I could not relax during the treatment.

You are right, 4 months is a lot of time, next sunday is my last visit so I will try to make another attempt to get some info on where she thinks I am in terms of getting my body balanced. because I do not see it myself.

The chinese institute runs free sessions actually so we can try that before committing to anything but I checked their website and they seem to do a lot for male fertility but not that much for female.

 

[Blythe]

oh dear fasting is not the healthiest way forward. i wonder why he is doing that if he is already slim. My DH was taking diet tablets for ages alongside his supplements although they finished this weekend so hope that will be the last i see of them. How frustrating for you...I think some of the supps he is taking are best taken with food to aid absorption.

i just came back from acu and asked him what my imbalances were and he said kidney yang deficiency but also a bit of yin too and weak spleen. I have the beginnings of AF today so my shortest LP yet but still long enough for me not to be too concerned. I have just been to boots and purchased 'Wassen - Magnesium-OK' which has extra magnesium, vitamin B6 and Vit D so see if that helps with energy levels and spotting [although spotting had cleared up for a couple of months it back now].

he stuck needles in the side of my hands to help with my lower back pain and they hurt like mad....i did some yoga this morning and could barely bend over without pain so hoping this session will have helped.

i have popped into the chinese medicine institute a couple of times over the last year or so and the first time had a conversation with a doc in there who said they assist women during IVF and IUIs....they have a proper herbal dispensary too.

 

[Blythe]

Oh dear God, just when I thought I'm done with the dried placenta, I got another round of it Another 7 days, 2 times daily

Massage? Sounds amazing. I'm dreaming of this: https://www.amazon.ca/Osaki-OS-4000...96/ref=sr_1_16?ie=UTF8&qid=1359755116&sr=8-16
Tried one for 10 min and thought I'm in heaven

See link for info on placenta in chinese medicine......you have to scroll down a bit

https://www.thriveacupuncture.org/1/category/womens health0c5c1313b7/1.html

 

[Briss]

Blythe, are you sure it's AF? seems a bit early you never have anything shorter than 15 days. I wonder what's causing it

I was told I also have kidney yang deficiency but also yin deficiency... confusing

I reached my limit today and completely fell apart because of things with hubby not improving and in the end we had to have a very serious talk, I explained how serious I am about having children and how meaningless my life would be without them and I even said that I am considering leaving him and doing it along I love him so much but I just cannot wait for him for years and years while my time is literally running out. it was so emotional. In the end I think he finally realised how serious our situation is and agreed to fully commit to TTC for the next 3 months and improve his sperm count i.e. stop alcohol (most important!) and eat properly + vitamins + blood tests + BD when required. I feel like I've returned back to life! I do not have any hope for this cycle because of his fasting but at least I have now hope that this may happen later

 

[MalaMae]

Briss, regarding the acne problem- the driede placenta solved that problem for me. I always have problem with blackheads due to my oily skin. After taking the placenta for 2 weeks I noticed my blackheads almost diminshed. I did some googling and asked him as well- lot of articles and my chinese doctor said the same- in china the women take driedf placenta to have beautiful skin. I guess the hormones in it do the trick

 

[MalaMae]

Blythe, in your last chart I noticed something that I have been noticing on my charts since I started going to acupuncture: both of us have temp drop very early- you on 8th, me on 9-10 day, but actual ovulation couple of days later. In the past motnhs I also had short LP (at least I though so). I don't what is going on, but I've never had short LP, it was always 14 days, but when I count 14 days backwards, it turns out that I ovulated on 9-10 day. Maybe the body is trying to ovulate longer?

I don't know if you are following me, I don't know how to explain this. I noticed this on several of my charts.

 

[Blythe]

Briss - im glad you were able to talk and make your DH understand the seriousness of this for you and for you both as a couple.....sometimes we need to pull out the big guns in order for them to really get it. My DH has no comprehension of how upsetting ths last two years have been and is losing patience with my mood swings...im not sure but i think that dhea is having an effect on my temper! So glad your DH is now willing to get fully on board and cut out drink and eat! This is going to be your year...dont forget what your chinese horoscope said!!

No AF yet....but still threatening...i suspect just a plunge in my prog levels but id rather it turned up sooner rather than later as i just want to start a fresh cycle now.

 

[Blythe]

Malamae - i know what you mean...its strange and has confused FF a couple of times who initially put my O at an earlier date. I will make sure i use my opks earlier this month to see if i can pick up an earlier LH surge. Im sorry you got a negative but no AF yet so it could still happen...i am waiting for AF to turn up but feeling positive for next cycle!

 

[Blythe]

AF just turned up but i figure the longer this takes the healthier my eggs will be what with all the tablets I'm swallowing every day [well they are either doing that or buggering up my cycles]

 

[Blythe]

Blythe, are you sure it's AF? seems a bit early you never have anything shorter than 15 days. I wonder what's causing it

I was told I also have kidney yang deficiency but also yin deficiency... confusing

I reached my limit today and completely fell apart because of things with hubby not improving and in the end we had to have a very serious talk, I explained how serious I am about having children and how meaningless my life would be without them and I even said that I am considering leaving him and doing it along I love him so much but I just cannot wait for him for years and years while my time is literally running out. it was so emotional. In the end I think he finally realised how serious our situation is and agreed to fully commit to TTC for the next 3 months and improve his sperm count i.e. stop alcohol (most important!) and eat properly + vitamins + blood tests + BD when required. I feel like I've returned back to life! I do not have any hope for this cycle because of his fasting but at least I have now hope that this may happen later

just been reading about strengthening kidneys and spleen. I think they mean that the kidney yang needs to be strengthened but also the kidney yin needs to be nourished at the same time in order to promote overall functioning of things governed by the kidneys..our waterworks and so on...

 

[Briss]

MalaMae, thanks, I will think about placenta and ask my doc. I am taking vitamin B5, there was some research that it can help clear acne. no change yet but then I take a lower dose. I have some blackheads but my main concern is these extra large red ones, that are painful to touch. I was trying to squeeze one of them but there was nothing coming out, they seem to be hard inside, quite worrying

Blythe, I am sorry AF got you but somehow I am still hoping it's not the case for you. your chart is very confusing, temp is just really high for CD1. does it look like normal AF? could this be implantation bleeding instead? if it's not implantation maybe it's DHEA messing things up? Is this your first cycle taking DHEA?

I am thinking constantly about what my Chinese horoscope said! We went to china town on Sunday for Chinese new year but I was so low that I could not enjoy it because I had so much hope for this year but looking at what hubby's been up to I realised that unless I make a drastic change things will continue as they are so felt it was time we made some decisions. I threatened to leave him before but it's always been after we had some argument in the heat of the moment, I guess this time it was different because I was totally calm and he realised that I was determined and I thought this through. If I was younger it would not have been a problem, I could wait for him for years to come around. Unfortunately I do not really have that much time considering that I would really like to have more than one child… anyway, after we talked I feel so happy, for the first time in months I actually care about things other than TTC (like work&#8230 and truly feel this is going to be our year.

The doc told me that my kidney yang and yin are low, both of them, whatever it means

re spotting, I am so pleased to report I had no after AF spotting!! This is really big, ever since I had this lap I was suffering from spotting going on and on until CD8-9, not great considering that I O on CD11. so this cycle I decided to try and "clear" things up by doing intensive exercise on CD4 once the bleeding started to wear off and BD on CD5 and got my usual 6 day AF and no spotting, so pleased! Also I think EPO is helping as well.

re war on chocolate, I had a tiny bit of chocolate this morning (usually I'd already go through a 100gr bar before lunchtime) so far so good, finishing my lunch so my usual chocolate crave will kick in in a minute, determined to run across the street to tesco and buy fruit…

 

[Blythe]

well having had a bright red bleed earlier it has all disappeared so i guess its spotting but ive never had fresh blood spotting before.....I think its too late for an implantation bleed. I will see what else happens today and then change chart later if nothing. I have really bad pains and PMT symptoms galore so will be vexed if this continues until expected date of AF which is thursday. Just when i thought i had sorted my spotting out. On a plus note my back is improving...i did some yoga today as its my working at home day so hoping to do some form of stretching/breathing stuff everyday at least for 10 mins and i have booked into another fertility yoga session this friday evening.

My DH went to do his SA this am in St Georges so i am desperately hoping this will be processed in good time..he placed it in an incubator [5 mins after producing it] and it is then sent off to st helliers in epsom. i thought they did it on the premises...anyhow if this one goes wrong i will be furious beyond belief.

Your positivity is infectious...lets hope we all get our BFPs before easter!!

 

[Blythe]

My doc also said I am both kidney yang and yin deficient. Today I ordered some jasmine tea as that is recommended so will give that a crack!

 

[Briss]

jasmine tea? is it green tea with jasmine or is it some other sort of tea? I am also confused between green tea and Chinese tea, I always assumed Chinese tea was green tea but there seem to be a difference.

Unfortunately I never had implantation bleeding so no idea how this may look like but ladies in general section were sharing their experience of having period while being pregnant. If I were you I'd go against my principals and test every day now just because this seems to be very unusual

 

[MalaMae]

well having had a bright red bleed earlier it has all disappeared so i guess its spotting but ive never had fresh blood spotting before.....I think its too late for an implantation bleed. I will see what else happens today and then change chart later if nothing. I have really bad pains and PMT symptoms galore so will be vexed if this continues until expected date of AF which is thursday. Just when i thought i had sorted my spotting out. On a plus note my back is improving...i did some yoga today as its my working at home day so hoping to do some form of stretching/breathing stuff everyday at least for 10 mins and i have booked into another fertility yoga session this friday evening.

My DH went to do his SA this am in St Georges so i am desperately hoping this will be processed in good time..he placed it in an incubator [5 mins after producing it] and it is then sent off to st helliers in epsom. i thought they did it on the premises...anyhow if this one goes wrong i will be furious beyond belief.

Your positivity is infectious...lets hope we all get our BFPs before easter!!

I'm keeping my fingers and toes crossed for you!! Maybe you are prego, although u have light period. If still continues to be light for the next 2 days, do a test.

 

[Blythe]

well continued spotting a bit but not bright red anymore so will amend my chart to a spotting day rather than CD1.

i brought a mixture of green tea with jasmine leafs...im not sure what chinese tea is. i always thought people said it when referring to green tea. i drink japanese matcha green tea sometimes...its powdered and like rocket fuel...like espresso shots!

 

[MalaMae]

Baaam!!! AF caught me! But I'm fine, no tears, I don't even care

Forgot to tell you one thing about the placenta- it made me SOOOO bitchy! Usually I would be like that 5 days before AF. Now, since after the O day I was sooo mean and bitchy, snapping on my DH. I mean not I was not like that every day, I was on and off, the other days when I wasn't bitchy- I was endlessly happy. Wierd! I think the placenta was trying to regulate the hormones.

What is the jasmine tea for?

 

[Briss]

MalaMae, sorry about af are you going to continue with the placenta this cycle?

Blythe, hoping and praying for you

from reading I do not think I have kidney yang and yin deficiency, I just do not seem to fit into this type. can the doc be wrong?