Chinese Accupuncture

[_bella_]

I don't follow this thread really, but I wanted to give a big hug and congratulations to Briss!! You and your little bean are in my thoughts every day. Keep positive!

 

[Jazzbird]

A huge congratulations to you and a very big hug from me Briss. I am so very happy for you!!

I remember the fear very well. Unfortunately it only lessens at 12 weeks when you know things are most likely ok. Just try to rest up and eat well. And imagine your little one growing.

This news has made my day.

Xxx

 

[nobump]

Briss how you doing?

Hows everyone else?

Afm bit worried now on day 15 of AF.... this past week it has varied from spotting to leaving bathroom like a crime. We're on holiday. Thankfully apartment has a washing machine. White towels and AF don't mix well at the best of times. Have bleed through a tampoon this morning in 2 hours....

Has Chinese meds screwed anyone's cycles up? Got new meds not sure if they have mucked things up. Managed some BD around O but can't imagine anything will be there anymore. Sorry just need to rant.

Xxxx

 

[alison29]

Hi No bump,
Yes when i took chinese meds it made my periods really heavy. I assumed it was the dong quai in them (idk though). I don't like white towels either they show everything! Especially makeup.

AFM I am waiting to ovulate had cm yesterday and bd last night on cd 13 today felt sure i would surge this morning but nothing and no more CM. So strange for me.

I am wondering about Briss too. If i were her I would post some pics of my BFP hint hint

 

[nobump]

Thanks will check names. Decided to stop meds. Got session next week will ask then

Hope you catch the O

 

[Briss]

ladies thank you so much for your lovely messages. it's been great support to me. I finally got a response from Munich and it was very positive, he said we were lucky to start pregnancy with good beta levels and that they doubled as they should so it looks OK. the next step is a scan on Monday that should hopefully confirm the embryo is in my uterus. and after that 30 days after EC another scan to see a HB. needless to say i am terribly nervous. I stopped testing because at this point I can't do anything really to change the situation but seeing faint line freaks me out. I will also be repeating my bloods on Monday so this should tell us if the pregnancy is progressing well.

I survived the trip to Egypt but unfortunately it was very stressful (all work related) and I did not sleep last night before the return flight and it was so cold on the plane so basically by the time we landed my bronchitis was on a completely different level. I also did not eat that well cos I was afraid of everything so ended up eating packaged sugary snacks + black tea all day long I have terrible cough now and a bit of sore throat. am really scared that my pregnancy started with me being so unwell. I did not get a chance to go to a doctor yet. I guess I was in denial about being sick hoping this would just resolve on its own. but it's just getting worse. I have not had temperature though which I think is good.

Nobump, Generally, Chinese herbs improved my AF, I had no clots. but 15 day AF is super dangerous I'd totally go to a doctor once you are back from your holiday. are you taking iron? have you had your thyroid hormones checked? my mum had bleedings which was I think due to thyroid issues. Did you get your LH surge while still bleeding? so strange. maybe your bleeding is not hormonal but to do with uterus? i think you really need to see a specialist (not chinese but a western doctor, you may need to have hysteroscopy to check inside uterus). I'd stop all chinese herbs and just take multi bit + iron to compensate for blood loss. I am sorry you are going through this on your holiday.

alison, good luck with this cycle. Keep BD, CM is a good sign even if your LH surge is bit late CM will help keep the sperm safe on their journey to your egg even if it takes a little longer. I am sorry I did not take any pictures of my BFP. I still have the tests but after a week they are probably not accurate.

Jazzbird, thanks! unfortunately my fear prevents me from feeling happy. It's a shame cos that is probably the happiest moment of my life but all I feel is fear. I am just trying to stay calm and go through each scan/blood test. I have not even told my mum, feel terribly guilty about it.

 

[gingmg]

Briss- great news your levels are doubling. Given all you have been through to get here, its completely normal and understandable that you are so nervous and haven't been able to celebrate yet. Its OK. You will get there. One milestone at a time. Everything sounds to be moving forward as it should. I am praying for you and your little embryo.

 

[Jazzbird]

Echoing what Ging says. It's very natural to feel fear and that's with any wanted pregnancy let alone the years you have been trying. I was filled with fear for weeks really and I kept testing and freaking out if the line looked fainter. Those bloody clearblue digitals got me good and proper as I wasn't progressing with the timeframe. I lost a small fortune buying those.

My humble advice is to remember there is nothing you can do to influence it. Honestly I ate crap for the first 4-5 months because I vomited up most things except for stodge. I believe I ate through a whole tub of margarine in about a week. I was also petrified if I didn't sleep ...

Just take every day without a period as a good sign and try to think of your little embryo bedding in.

We are with you every step of the way. Just try and stay calm.

Xxx

 

[Jazzbird]

Nobump - some acu/herb treatments encourage complete discharge of the uterus - this is often if the patient is suffering with dark, clotty and painful periods (a pattern called blood stagnation) but I think 15 days is excessive and you should see a doctor. You should also call your acu/herbalist too.

Hope all is ok.
X

 

[Vonn]

Briss--great to hear from you, thanks for the update! I understand your fear, and it really doesn't help that you have had so much other stress (bronchitis, work stress) on top of it. I am sure with each step/procedure you will feel more and more confident. We've started the celebration so you can join us whenever you are ready! Can't wait for Monday's results (if you want to share).

I've got lots of questions... Will you be going to a dr about the bronchitis? Do have an ob dr yet? And how is your DH handling it? You should definitely tell your mom.

Nobump--huge bummer about the crazy AF while on vacation. I hope you have still been able to enjoy yourself! I've never had much change to AF due to my herbs, and I've been on a few different kinds. I think my other health problems are preventing the acu and herbs from making much of a difference. I just keep hoping I will get there. It's a long and confusing road.

Alison--cycles can be so confusing and wonky! Mine has been also, getting a record 6 highs before a peak on my cb advanced opk. But we are taking this month off to let new meds do their thing. Can't help myself though, still test and temp. GL to you, hope you caught the sperm!

 

[nobump]

Briss that's great news about your bloods. Good luck for your scan. I will await your responses to vonns questions.

I am on iron tablets. Had bloid checked recently but can ask about my thyroid function. Think clots are due to my fibroid. Had hystoscopy last year and seen a gynae last month with no real help.

Briss I don't test lh just going from cm, twinges and timing..

Good luck Alison. Hopefully you caught O.

Xxxx

 

[alison29]

Thanks for the replies! About my cm. I started to surge this morning. Took musinex got be in two later ..will try to repeat tomorrow am. Still not a bunch of cm like it was CD 9..just glad my lh is rising.

Briss sounds fab..my friend at work struggles to feel happytoo she gets one ultrasound per weekj from 6-11 on Mondays by Thursday she is down again worried..Its also the hormones make you crazy even more worried than before. Its a crazy ride! So glad u get to experience it.

 

[alison29]

Thanks for the replies! About my cm. I started to surge this morning. Took musinex got be in two later ..will try to repeat tomorrow am. Still not a bunch of cm like it was CD 9..just glad my lh is rising.

Briss sounds fab..my friend at work struggles to feel happytoo she gets one ultrasound per weekj from 6-11 on Mondays by Thursday she is down again worried..Its also the hormones make you crazy even more worried than before. Its a crazy ride! So glad u get to experience it.

 

[Briss]

Jazzbird, that's exactly why I stopped testing it was just causing so much stress and my mood for the day was totally determined by how dark the line was. you are right there is not much I can do to influence it anyway. I am very nervous about my next blood test result. My second result was measured in different units and I nearly fainted while I was trying to figure out whether beta went up.

I started reading my pregnancy books which I bought after my first IVF but could not make myself read them while TTC, it was just too painful. obviously now I feel rather clueless what to do and what to eat, not to eat. luckily I have a small book that lists all foods and says which you can and cannot eat. "what to expect when you are expecting" seems good but food section is very complex, if I follow her advice and eat everything she says I'll just be spending the entire day trying to work out how to get all the nutrients in. also, i was taking wild salmon fish oil by solgar which I thought was brilliant until i read it was not suitable for pregnancy I am switching to higher nature fish oil and just take solgar prenatals and folate.

Vonn, once we had our scan and bloods on monday I would make an appointment to check my bronchitis it's really scary what if they tell me to take antibiotics?? my chest pain is also worrying, I still cannot take a deep breath without feeling a lot of pain I still have not worked out how to register my pregnancy but I will think about it after my scan, will probably call my GP and ask for direction. as far as I know they won't see me before 11-12 weeks anyway so my scans will be private before that.

We are still discussing whether to disclose our IVF or just say that we got pregnant naturally. I want to protect my child so it's not part of IVF statistics. on the other hand i think IVF pregnancies are considered high risk and you get slightly more attention which is good.

Nobump, it's great that you are taking iron, i think it's very important for you at the moment. is your fibroid in the uterus? have you considered surgery? I do not know much about fibroids I know sometimes you can pregnant despite having them but more often I see ladies trying to remove them from time to time (they tend to regrow) before they TTC. could this be the main reason for not getting pregnant? what did hystoscopy show? what the doc recommended to do about the fibroid? if your gynae is no help can you try and get second opinion? it's appalling that they are not taking your long period seriously.

alison, it's great that you are ovulating, hopefully you can catch your eggie this cycle. best of luck! sometimes CM and LH do not match but it's good that you BD while you had CM, still try and get at least one more session in

 

[nobump]

Briss I think that you should declare ivf so you can be mibitored closely.

My hystoscopy was to remove a polyp pre ivf everything else looked ok. My fybroid was picked up during ivf. Have had a 4d scan. It is small and they didn't think it would impact future cycles. Docs have saud the risks of removing fibroids are high. Gynae recommend same drugs I am trying at rhe moment or progesterone tablets but then we would have to stop TTC or the coil. So until we call it quits I need to grin and bear things.

Xx

 

[Briss]

nobump, so fibroid appeared after you had your hysteroscopy? do the docs think it's fibroid that's causing your bleeding? or is it something else? I would not stop TTC but it would be great to sort out your bleeding because it might be affecting your chances. if I understand correctly you bleed before ovulation, right? your AF just longer than normal but it stops after O? I do not see how progesterone can help here. sorry I keep asking so many questions but your situation is very complex. you would benefit so much from a really good Gynae. so what meds are you taking now? I hope you are still able to enjoy your holiday, you really need a good break. thinking of you.

 

[Delphine11]

I've not been in this section very much recently, but I'm glad I checked today!

Briss - incredible news! Many, many congratulations on your BFP!

The worry and fear doesn't really go but it does ease a little. Eat well, rest and really try to keep calm. I meditated and did deep breathing whenever I got anxious. I think it helps keep your body relaxed and sending out the right hormonal environment.

Amazing news! Look after yourself

 

[Jazzbird]

Briss - there's a fab baby app I bought for about £3 - it's called pregnancy +. It has lots of tools and interesting info on what not to eat plus pics of your embryo every week. It took me a few weeks to pluck up the courage to download and use it thinking I would be jinxing things but it's a nice distraction from worrying. I rember getting on a london bus a few days after I tested positive and became convinced the heavy vibration had dislodged the embryo!!! Easy for me to say but as long as you are taking a prenatal vitamin and eating a well balanced diet, I wouldn't worry too much about what you eat. The baby does indeed take what it needs. Look at all the hyperemis sufferers.

Good call on the pregnancy tests - I remember reading that after a certain length of time the line should get fainter as the pregnancy progresses. I can't remember the name of this effect.

As far as registering goes - get a telephone consult with your gp and they might put you on an ivf monitoring programme. Otherwise you just need to register your pregnancy at the doctors with the midwife. You can do this over the phone too. They will book you in for a booking appmtmt at 8 weeks.

Babybond scans do early preg confirmation but think this is around 8 weeks.

Sending lots of reassurance hugs your way. You're a very strong lady Briss.

 

[Zeri]

Jazzbird, that's exactly why I stopped testing it was just causing so much stress and my mood for the day was totally determined by how dark the line was. you are right there is not much I can do to influence it anyway. I am very nervous about my next blood test result. My second result was measured in different units and I nearly fainted while I was trying to figure out whether beta went up.

I started reading my pregnancy books which I bought after my first IVF but could not make myself read them while TTC, it was just too painful. obviously now I feel rather clueless what to do and what to eat, not to eat. luckily I have a small book that lists all foods and says which you can and cannot eat. "what to expect when you are expecting" seems good but food section is very complex, if I follow her advice and eat everything she says I'll just be spending the entire day trying to work out how to get all the nutrients in. also, i was taking wild salmon fish oil by solgar which I thought was brilliant until i read it was not suitable for pregnancy I am switching to higher nature fish oil and just take solgar prenatals and folate.

Vonn, once we had our scan and bloods on monday I would make an appointment to check my bronchitis it's really scary what if they tell me to take antibiotics?? my chest pain is also worrying, I still cannot take a deep breath without feeling a lot of pain I still have not worked out how to register my pregnancy but I will think about it after my scan, will probably call my GP and ask for direction. as far as I know they won't see me before 11-12 weeks anyway so my scans will be private before that.

We are still discussing whether to disclose our IVF or just say that we got pregnant naturally. I want to protect my child so it's not part of IVF statistics. on the other hand i think IVF pregnancies are considered high risk and you get slightly more attention which is good.

Nobump, it's great that you are taking iron, i think it's very important for you at the moment. is your fibroid in the uterus? have you considered surgery? I do not know much about fibroids I know sometimes you can pregnant despite having them but more often I see ladies trying to remove them from time to time (they tend to regrow) before they TTC. could this be the main reason for not getting pregnant? what did hystoscopy show? what the doc recommended to do about the fibroid? if your gynae is no help can you try and get second opinion? it's appalling that they are not taking your long period seriously.

alison, it's great that you are ovulating, hopefully you can catch your eggie this cycle. best of luck! sometimes CM and LH do not match but it's good that you BD while you had CM, still try and get at least one more session in

Good that you're reading up on pregnancy-safe foods etc, Briss. I was going to mention from your last post that black tea (caffeinated) isn't recommended much in the first tri..

 

[Briss]

Zeri, that's exactly what I thought re black tea but I am reading this book "what to expect.." and they actually recommend black tea rather than herbal teas, this is so strange!