Chinese Accupuncture

[nobump]

Thanks for asking wish4another1 and Vonn, AF looks as though it is ending blood is looking brown, been taking the meds for 5 days now, so maybe they have helped. Next cycle is due Wednesday. Never bleed this long. When I was away on holiday I stopped coQ10 as I didn't pack them... was thinking it could be that, so bought another pack and started them again.

Shattered, tough being back at work, had a few long days, glad it is the weekend, we are away this weekend visiting family so not sure we will get any time to ourselves, wish we could go on a permanent holiday!


Vonn, big drop in temp for me being home from hols.

 

[Jazzbird]

Briss - how are you doing? Thinking of you! X

 

[Briss]

nobump, I do not think coq10 has any effect on the bleeding. When did they tell you to stop progesterone? I so hope your bleeding will resolve soon.

Vonn, your IUI strategy looks great. Hopefully that's all that it takes for you to get your BFP. I cant agree more re warmer weather. I think my cough wont get better until the air outside is warm enough. I have seen pictures of Boston – all covered in snow. I like your chart, big difference between pre and post O temps – very healthy! Fingers crossed your LH will be OK this cycle.

Wish4another, I take tiny steps to affirm my pregnancy in my mind but I am still so very scared. even putting a positive pregnancy blood test result on my chart was a huge step for me. I could not join any of the pregnancy threads, they are all so happy and excited there I just do not feel I fit in.

afm, my cold is much better but I am still coughing and it does not really help to heal my pulled muscle so chest pain is still there.

I have seen my GP and registered (I think) my pregnancy although no one did any tests so they just took my word for it. They have referred me to a midwife so I am waiting now to hear back from the hospital on the date of a midwife appointment. It's getting a bit more serious. Still no symptoms except very noticeable changes in my breasts and some minor cramps.

unfortunately, I could not keep myself from all the pastries (now that I am not losing weight) and as a result already put 1.5 kg back on. disappointing, considering you are not supposed to gain weight in the first 3 months. Other than that I think I eat pretty well, also have a pint of veggy juice every other day. I have booked my scan for next week, basically the longer you wait the more you will be able to see but the scarier it gets.

 

[Jazzbird]

Briss - stuff the diet. In a few more weeks you might be in the throes of morning sickness. I say eat and be merry. I wish I had gone to all my fav restaurants before my diet of peanut butter, toast and hot cross buns kicked in. Wait as long as you can as there is better confirmation for the scan ...

 

[nobump]

Briss enjoy eating while you can. Hope you start to feel better soon.

Doc suggested I took tablets for 5 days so only took them until Friday incleded. Thought I had stop blood was brown. Had nothing over weekend. but started spotting today. Cd25 so could be next cycle starting early. Going to get bloods done tomorrow so will ask nurse about things then.

Had tough weekend. Seen neice and nephew on Sunday took them out the dropped them at their separate mum's one is pregnant with number 4 and the other is so unfit to be a mum she is a complete waste of space. To top it all my little brother new partner had there new born at my folks. Kept thinking that it should be my baby lying on the floor and my folks fussing over him/her. So tired of all this. Xx

 

[Briss]

nobump, hopefully it's your next cycle starting right on time (it was supposed to start on wednesday, right?). you have been through so much I so wish your bleeding is resolved soon so you could TTC and finally get your BFP.

it's so painful when you see people unfit to be parents getting pregnant all the time with no difficulty. I got to a point where I could not see families, any families even happy ones. I was not able to go to a park because there are so many people with children and I just felt it was too much for me to bare. even now I cannot communicate with women who got pregnant easily, they just can't appreciate this underlying sadness that stays with you if you had to face infertility. but I could much easier relate to people who survived nazi camps infertility is a terrible thing.

 

[alison29]

Thanks so much for the update BRISS. How many weeks are you? Get in there and get a scan already It is so exciting and terrifying. My work friend just had 10 week scan and it was still scary for her. The juicing sounds amazing. I felt the best when i did that and would do if eating for two like you. It gets so expensive. One glass of juice is about 10$ of produce it's crazy. You are so right about the scars of infertility. Most people i am unsure of how easy it was to get pregnant but my inlaws would go on about how they got pregnant after one or two months bla bla. I am glad both their dh's have been fixed now. It would make me pretty jealous and and wonder why that couldn't be us too.

 

[Vonn]

Briss--Thanks for the update! Glad to hear the cold is improving, those can make you so miserable.

I think it's great you are taking baby steps in acknowledging your pregnancy. It's okay to be concerned. But try to allow yourself a little space for celebration because for this moment you have achieved what you have been trying so long to achieve. At least honor your resilience and persistence. It's impressive.

I've thought a lot about transferring the fear and anxiety of TTC & infertility to pregnancy-related fear and anxiety when (if) I become pregnant. I don't want to miss out on experiencing the joy of that elusive bfp because I am so afraid that something bad will happen. I don't have any answers about how to do that, but hopefully I will build up some tools to help me get there. The one thing I am sure of is that it is easy to say & really, really hard to do. There's lots of hard stuff on this journey, but the pay-off still seems worth it! GL to all!

 

[Briss]

Vonn, that's really interesting. let me know if you learn how to stop the fear ruining the precious little moments of pure happiness that happen in your life not that often. It really is sad to miss out on those moments. I think in my case fear came after I had a chemical on my very first IVF. I tested daily with cheapies and was getting bfns but I did feel something in my uterus and then I started spotting from 10 DPO and I was sure there was something happening so I tested with FRER and got a BFP. I burst into tears and laughter at the same time, to say I was happy means nothing, it was beyond happy. i shared the pics here cos the line was faint but not that faint and everyone was so happy for me and congratulations flew in from everywhere. I went to bed a happy person that night, first time in years. I woke up to a bfn not a sniff of a line. I could not believe it. I did a blood test and my beta was low. it dropped to below 5 in two days and i stopped progesterone. Basically it's that drop from "happy" to "devastated" in a day that made me develop fear I think. I know it was not a mc, just a chemical but I am still sad. every day I pass a pharmacy on the way home (where I went to buy every pregnancy test available after I got that BFP so i could test the next day) and even though it's been 1.5 years it reminds me of that experience and my mind goes through the whole trauma of happy-devastated all over again. and there is nothing i can do cos it happens so quickly in my mind by the time I realise it I've already gone through all the emotions and am actually crying. The problem is of course that even if i did not feel that happy when I got that BFP I'd still be devastated by losing it so there seem to be no point in depriving yourself from happy emotions (if you look at it rationally, that is). but then there is also negative experience of your fellow TTCers which you take close to your heart and over the years you accumulate a lot of it.

My circle and bloom finally arrived!! I am going to try one of the mind-body sessions maybe it will help be more positive.

alison, I am using veggies which are relatively cheap. sometimes I use a kg of carrots for a pint of juice (my juicer is not very good so I need more veg) which is around 1.5 pounds (for organic ones, otherwise even cheaper). or I use 2 beets + 1 apple + 5 celery sticks + 1 pepper (it should not be more than 2 pounds for a pint). I think I am between week 5 and 6, but I am still confused how they calculate it.

 

[nobump]

Think my reply disappeared.
Definitely day one. Been bleeding through super Ts in under 3 hours.... think I will take tomorrow off. Just feel wiped out.

Briss it is understandable given what you have been through to be cautious.

Vonn that sounds like a good technique to master. Be good if you can and share tips with us all.

Alison where ars you in your cycle? On phone so will lose page if I navigate to your link

Xxx

 

[nobump]

Think my reply disappeared.
Definitely day one. Been bleeding through super Ts in under 3 hours.... think I will take tomorrow off. Just feel wiped out.

Briss it is understandable given what you have been through to be cautious.

Vonn that sounds like a good technique to master. Be good if you can and share tips with us all.

Alison where ars you in your cycle? On phone so will lose page if I navigate to your link

Xxx

 

[alison29]

Briss update on the circle and bloom. Did you buy a CD? I know i have a mind block and need something.

No bump, It looks like yesterday was cd1. I completely missed my O this month. Bd on on cd 8, and cd 13(night) and 14. I think i started opks too late at day 10 or 11. I think Ovulated cd 11-12. thought i had a quck surge and missed it on cd 13 but hat is not the case.

 

[alison29]

No bump it i guess we will ovulation stalkers at the same time this month. I am going to start opks cd 8. It's hard getting a pm reading with the amount of water that is good to drink but oh will have to drink a ton in the morning quit at noon and test at 5 pm.

 

[nobump]

Sorry to hear AF has appeared for you Alison. Hopefully starting testing earlier will give you a better chance in catching O this cycle.

AF is hear with a vengeance, was bleeding through yesterday super Ts in an hour, went to docs yesterday, now on Mefenamic acid and Tranexamic acid to help stop the bleeding, will start Norethiserone on day 5, doc had recommended not TTC while on Norethiserone as they have not proof it is safe, but think it is only progesterone so not sure what issues it would cause. I don't test for ov but can usually detect O by noting CM and I get pain in my LHS mid month.

I tried OV sticks in the past and trialled clear blue test, and day 3 and 21 test have always shown I am ovulating... but guess with low AMH my numbers are not great... if I am taking the Norethiserone I think it may confuse the tests. Will look to get some BD weekend before O, weekdays don't work well for us due to working hours conflicts, unless I can plan a long WFH lunch or late start...

Think my body just needs a break from heavy bleeding.

Briss how are you doing?

Vonn looks like you will be cycle buddies with Alison and I, are you taking this month off or are you going for IUI?

Wishforanother1 how are you doing?

xx

 

[Briss]

alison, I got my circle and bloom, it's several CDs for each week. Nohing special, but it's nice when someone else tells you that everything is fine. unfortunately i cant do the breathing exercises cos my chest hurts really bad when i take a deep breathe.

 

[Briss]

A very quick and depressing update, I had a scan today and left the clinic in tears. I am 6W5W, but there was no HB and my HCG increased from 3,200 on 21 DPO to only 10,582 on 35 DPO – in 2 weeks! Progesterone dropped from 40 to 27 and estrogen also decreased. They talked a lot about mc, but I just switched off and did not hear much. I am desperately trying to find some kind of strength reserve somewhere in me to be able to live through this.

 

[terripeachy]

Briss-I'm not sure about the numbers...did you check betabase? A lot of people go on there to be reassured about their numbers. Do you have an appointment to go back? How is your body feeling? Just wanted to let you know that I'm thinking about you. I am praying that everything will be ok..You have a strong baby in there...stay positive.

 

[Blythe]

Briss - i do not know about the numbers - i thought the HCG evened out. Do you go back next week...?

I terribly sorry to read that you had this news today - i know that HB are not always detected under 7 wks.

I am thinking of you and hope so very much that you are not put through any further heartbreak.

 

[Zeri]

Oh, I'm so sorry, Briss...... How absolutely heartbreaking and disappointing. I so wish you could have seen a heartbeat today and be told that everything was okay - this is what you deserve after everything you've been through! So sorry you had such horrible news instead. Did you manage to get what the doctors said the next step would be? Are you expected to come back in for a follow-up? There are times when a heartbeat can be detected at a later stage, but unfortunately if the hcg numbers are on the low end, and progesterone dropping, and no hb - those are not very promising for a viable pregnancy, unfortunately. So sorry...

Did the dr. mention any possible reason? Unfortunately, the rate of mc is pretty high before the 6 week mark - and there could be any number of reasons why the pregnancy is not progressing - chromosomal abnormalities being top of the list. Maybe it was just a matter of plain old bad luck or poorer quality of egg/sperm? You did get pregnant, though - and that's definitely a positive....although I'm sure if it brings you little comfort now.

 

[Briss]

I just got a response from Munich, usually they take ages to respond but this time they responded immediately. The email is just too depressing to repeat here but basically my choices are wait for it to happen naturally in next few weeks or do an op and get the embryo tested for chromosomes. I just hate myself for letting go and feeling happy, I had the whole new life planned for us already and now I need to go back into my "normal" TTC state of mind, remove all pregnancy related things from the house. just not sure what to do with all pregnancy related things in my head, I have built so many in the last few weeks.