Chinese Accupuncture

[alison29]

Blythe with my friend i bet she will insist they do the betas next time and all that. I know it will happen for her though.

 

[Blythe]

Briss Awesome about you hunger reducing and the herbs...I don't know how long it takes but i would say 3-6 months they say that about all the natural supplements..

Stomach flu made it's way thru house this past couple of weeks dh is the last to succum and it better not be next week when I O..

Fingers crossed for you shiseru!

I don't think i even ovulated last cycle i was thinking my temps were up they used to be in the 96 range in lututeal phase but now that i am on pregnitude I tempted this morning and it was 97.8. I am on clomid again 3-7 and ovaboost (seems like more for less money then the pregnitude). So fingers crossed ..

There was a Psychic fair just by my house saturday i was dying to go to this weekend want to go next time with my friend who had the mc she was going through the awful medicated process this weekend so could do it.

Stomach flu is the pits....i have been laid up with it the past two days...yuk! i really hope it does not get you next week.

are pregnitude and ovaboost things you can buy from the chemist or are they on prescription?

i never heard back from the psychic despite numerous attempts to contact her. i am very wary of them now and think it is just a very easy way to make lots and lots of money preying on vulnerable people who are looking for some hope. Not just a fraud but a crap business woman too...there is nothing more infuriating than being ignored

i had my CD3 bloods back today and my FSH was 7.8 IU/L and my Estradiol was 113 pmol/l which i think is quite good. So despite pretty good results between me and DH we still cannot, after 30 cycles, get pregnant. it feels like a lottery....im hoping this DHEA is doing something great.

alison i cannot remember...are you taking chinese herbs?

 

[Briss]

Blythe, well done on FSH 7.8!!! that's really impressive. with this result your age should not be an issue and I would think you still have time to TTC naturally

 

[alison29]

Briss Awesome about you hunger reducing and the herbs...I don't know how long it takes but i would say 3-6 months they say that about all the natural supplements..

Stomach flu made it's way thru house this past couple of weeks dh is the last to succum and it better not be next week when I O..

Fingers crossed for you shiseru!

I don't think i even ovulated last cycle i was thinking my temps were up they used to be in the 96 range in lututeal phase but now that i am on pregnitude I tempted this morning and it was 97.8. I am on clomid again 3-7 and ovaboost (seems like more for less money then the pregnitude). So fingers crossed ..

There was a Psychic fair just by my house saturday i was dying to go to this weekend want to go next time with my friend who had the mc she was going through the awful medicated process this weekend so could do it.

Stomach flu is the pits....i have been laid up with it the past two days...yuk! i really hope it does not get you next week.

are pregnitude and ovaboost things you can buy from the chemist or are they on prescription?

i never heard back from the psychic despite numerous attempts to contact her. i am very wary of them now and think it is just a very easy way to make lots and lots of money preying on vulnerable people who are looking for some hope. Not just a fraud but a crap business woman too...there is nothing more infuriating than being ignored

i had my CD3 bloods back today and my FSH was 7.8 IU/L and my Estradiol was 113 pmol/l which i think is quite good. So despite pretty good results between me and DH we still cannot, after 30 cycles, get pregnant. it feels like a lottery....im hoping this DHEA is doing something great.

alison i cannot remember...are you taking chinese herbs?

ITs the worst isn't it? You will feel like new after 4 days. I am taking Ovaboost now switched from pregnitude 34 plus ship (which you can buy on line) the ovabosst 28 all together was cheaper and had extra stuff mysoinsoitol, coq10, melatonin and some other antioxidents. No herbs for me have taken them in the past though.

That is great that your levels are good. Why don't you try the pregnitude or the ovaboost? IT helps a lot of people get over the ledge so to speak.

It does feel like a lottery. IT is so strange being "healthy" well i am not so sure about my ovulation now on my own but in four years never a BFP so weird. What exactly happens in there every month i would love to know.

 

[Blythe]

cheers alison - im going to check out this ova boost.

if you can - try and link up your chart so we can nose at it...

found this...not sure if these instructions are up to date though

https://babyandbump.momtastic.com/trying-to-conceive/339728-add-fertility-friend-chart.html

 

[Blythe]

im 41 today and feel quite good about it....despite DHEA induced acne and receding hairline!!

 

[Briss]

im 41 today and feel quite good about it....despite DHEA induced acne and receding hairline!!

I am hoping this will turn out to be one of the best years of your life. wishing you a BFP followed by a healthy pregnancy and a gorgeous healthy baby!!! Life begins at forty one!

How are you planning to celebrate?

 

[Blythe]

im 41 today and feel quite good about it....despite DHEA induced acne and receding hairline!!

I am hoping this will turn out to be one of the best years of your life. wishing you a BFP followed by a healthy pregnancy and a gorgeous healthy baby!!! Life begins at forty one!

How are you planning to celebrate?

thank you so much Briss - lovely message

i have been out for a massive coffee and i will meet up with DH later for some booze in a local pub Despite my lovely looking temps i am not pregnant this cycle but im ok with that.

I went to docs earlier and got her to refer me to King College Hospital for 'self funded' fertility treatments. They do natural IVF and its cheaper than CREATE although im thinking perhaps IUI but we will see. I will send off my referral letter tomorrow and then keep going natural for the next 2/3 months.

 

[alison29]

cheers alison - im going to check out this ova boost.

if you can - try and link up your chart so we can nose at it...

found this...not sure if these instructions are up to date though

https://babyandbump.momtastic.com/trying-to-conceive/339728-add-fertility-friend-chart.html

I will I just started doing a real chart on Ova boost website but I will check out fertility friend now..I am on cd 7...
DS had swimmers ear yesterday..Got some drops waited at pharmacy for an hour to get drops finally got back to work at 4 and at 430 Daycare called to say he had a 103 fever. He is ok today though poor little guy!. We are no strangers to ear infections though.

ok i am going to try to work FF now

 

[Briss]

Blythe, well done on taking the first step towards assisted conception. I really need to start doing this as well. Meeting my FS tomorrow but she will probably want to check my FSH and hubby's SA before she can refer us. I cant believe it's May already! I was going to start natural self funded IVF in Jan/Feb … your temp looks great and you still have a few days maybe something wonderful is happening at this moment.

I am doing something I have not done before - taking a day off (on Friday) just to stay at home and do nothing. I feel so tired from overworking and overstressing!

am a bit disappointed with my weight loss, there has been no change since Saturday. even though I am practically living on water (not quite but close). I guess without exercising I wont lose anything. Tried some of my "old" skirts today - nothing fits yet. Went to One New Change today to check out top shop but found street market with all sorts of wonderful food: Argentinean empanadas, Portuguese, West Indian and German food, French cheese, handmade cupcakes and English fudge. I felt like an outcast with my pitiful packet of dried apricots for lunch. I cant wait to lose my weight so I could start living normally again and enjoy my food!

I did some of the blood tests that Dr Zhai requested, paid 77 pounds (a lot! but slightly less than 115 at her clinic), waiting for her to tell me whether I can finally start the treatment. My corporate GP was not impressed with the idea of TCM and warned me to be very careful because it's all untested stuff. she is probably right cos I do not think my previous Chinese doc got it right – 4 months of terrible acne cant be good, can it? my face is so much better now I can even flirt with colleagues. btw, for some reason my "infamous horn" has come today and not yesterday when I had my peak and we BD. I hope CBFM has got it right and I am ovulating today.

 

[alison29]

ugh so your hair line is receding?? I can relate..I took birth control pills constant for 3 months about 7 months ago and 2 months ago i had tellium effluvum and i have half the amount of long hairs. Not worry though I have a bunch of stubble so it;s not permanent. I wish i would quit falloing out already

I use Nutriox liquid scalp treatment at front though it's 16 $ on line and it lasts a long itme. IT's cheap nioxin.

Happy birthday woman! I don't feel so bad about my birthday coming up may 16 either. I am going to enjoy this spring and summer however wacked out on clomid i may be! I already planned next years spring break...Just going to my mom's who lives 4 blocks from the beach but anyway still excting away from work.

 

[shiseru]

Happy Birthday Blythe! Wishing you health and happiness. Glad to know you are starting to plan for fertility treatment and definitely hope you won't be needing it and you get a bfp before these treatment.

Alison, I never had ear infection before but ouch boy it sounds awful, hope it clears up very soon! Yeah i am nosy about your BBT, so do share your BBT chart with us! It's always good to take a break once in a while, I love that and I make sure i travel at least 3 x per year, 2 short trips and 1 long trip.

Briss, take one day off and just get lazy around the house doing nothing just rot on the sofa and enjoy the day! You'll feel refresh the next day! You won't be able to see much difference in weight if you are weighing everyday, so don't get too stress out. Try weighing once a week i am sure you see some difference, you are doing really well keeping in control of your diet!

Well my birthday is in May as well, the 29th! My child's birthday is 18 May. So yeah! Happy Birthday to the magnificent ladies of May!

15 dpo today and I will have my blood test tomorrow. I feel crampy and bloated these few days. I am on progesterone pessaries and I heard it delay LP. I stopped the progesterone today as I didn't want any delay if not pregnant so I can start the next cycle asap. Of course if BT comes back positive, I can start the progesterone and continue throughout the 1st trimester.

 

[Briss]

today was just one of those days when you get one bad news after another.

SA: finally got DH's Feb SA results and they are worst ever at 1 million and only occasional motility. this is truly depressing. Just hoping things are improving since he quit beer. she refused to prescribe him chlomid or HCG shots and would not refer him for any blood tests because she thinks he has no hormonal problem and that his issue is just too much toxins from alcohol. she referred us for another SA but she still thinks we should go IUI/IVF because his sperm was never good enough. I just cant believe how much money wasted on all the vitamins and supplements - no use at all any of them while DH was still drinking beer or fasting.

DHEA: asked FS about DHEA and she is so against it. she said they only prescribe DHEA as a last resort thing and only in the context of IVF, when everything else fails and this is virtually the last cycle TTC in order to give it the very best possible last shot. she also said as far as NHS is concerned the benefits of DHEA have not been proved in the context of natural TTC. we have examples on B&B that proves the opposite but still I would not take it just yet.

Natural Cycle IVF: she thinks this is an option for me because of my high FSH but she would still recommend the medicated cycle. I explain the family history of ovarian cancer and my cysts but she said cysts are very common and would not necessarily lead to cancer even when stimulated. she also does not think quality of eggs diminishes in medicated cycle because ovaries are designed to produce many follicles and it's only in the last stages of their development that one egg matures while others die, Meds are simply allowing all those other follicles to mature as well. sort of makes sense. I am to come back for bloods on CD2-3 and then after DH repeats his SA in July we would probably be referred for assisted conception.

On top of that our HR is refusing to transfer my unused holidays to next year. they can pay for some but others I will just lose. I personally think this is so unfair! smb who is working every weekend and bank holiday should also be losing annual leave she is entitled to...

Finally DR Zhai accepted my bloods and made a prescription. I am supposed to collect my two weeks of raw herbs tomorrow. but she made no prescription for acu yet. I understand that I should take the herbs and only after they had some effect I can move on to herbs.

 

[Blythe]

ugh so your hair line is receding?? I can relate..I took birth control pills constant for 3 months about 7 months ago and 2 months ago i had tellium effluvum and i have half the amount of long hairs. Not worry though I have a bunch of stubble so it;s not permanent. I wish i would quit falloing out already

I use Nutriox liquid scalp treatment at front though it's 16 $ on line and it lasts a long itme. IT's cheap nioxin.

Happy birthday woman! I don't feel so bad about my birthday coming up may 16 either. I am going to enjoy this spring and summer however wacked out on clomid i may be! I already planned next years spring break...Just going to my mom's who lives 4 blocks from the beach but anyway still excting away from work.

My hair is noticeably thinner all over and I am really thinning out near hairline....it really does not look good. I am scaling back on dhea to 25mg per day in the hope my skin will clear up too. Honestly what we do ourselves !! It's great to have a holiday to look forward too....what with saving fur a mortgage and now looking like we will have some form of assisted fertility this year there's no holidays for us for a while.

 

[Blythe]

Happy Birthday Blythe! Wishing you health and happiness. Glad to know you are starting to plan for fertility treatment and definitely hope you won't be needing it and you get a bfp before these treatment.

Alison, I never had ear infection before but ouch boy it sounds awful, hope it clears up very soon! Yeah i am nosy about your BBT, so do share your BBT chart with us! It's always good to take a break once in a while, I love that and I make sure i travel at least 3 x per year, 2 short trips and 1 long trip.

Briss, take one day off and just get lazy around the house doing nothing just rot on the sofa and enjoy the day! You'll feel refresh the next day! You won't be able to see much difference in weight if you are weighing everyday, so don't get too stress out. Try weighing once a week i am sure you see some difference, you are doing really well keeping in control of your diet!

Well my birthday is in May as well, the 29th! My child's birthday is 18 May. So yeah! Happy Birthday to the magnificent ladies of May!

15 dpo today and I will have my blood test tomorrow. I feel crampy and bloated these few days. I am on progesterone pessaries and I heard it delay LP. I stopped the progesterone today as I didn't want any delay if not pregnant so I can start the next cycle asap. Of course if BT comes back positive, I can start the progesterone and continue throughout the 1st trimester.

Thank you

Shiseru I will be thinking of you tomorrow and hope you get a wonderful result.

 

[Blythe]

today was just one of those days when you get one bad news after another.

SA: finally got DH's Feb SA results and they are worst ever at 1 million and only occasional motility. this is truly depressing. Just hoping things are improving since he quit beer. she refused to prescribe him chlomid or HCG shots and would not refer him for any blood tests because she thinks he has no hormonal problem and that his issue is just too much toxins from alcohol. she referred us for another SA but she still thinks we should go IUI/IVF because his sperm was never good enough. I just cant believe how much money wasted on all the vitamins and supplements - no use at all any of them while DH was still drinking beer or fasting.

DHEA: asked FS about DHEA and she is so against it. she said they only prescribe DHEA as a last resort thing and only in the context of IVF, when everything else fails and this is virtually the last cycle TTC in order to give it the very best possible last shot. she also said as far as NHS is concerned the benefits of DHEA have not been proved in the context of natural TTC. we have examples on B&B that proves the opposite but still I would not take it just yet.

Natural Cycle IVF: she thinks this is an option for me because of my high FSH but she would still recommend the medicated cycle. I explain the family history of ovarian cancer and my cysts but she said cysts are very common and would not necessarily lead to cancer even when stimulated. she also does not think quality of eggs diminishes in medicated cycle because ovaries are designed to produce many follicles and it's only in the last stages of their development that one egg matures while others die, Meds are simply allowing all those other follicles to mature as well. sort of makes sense. I am to come back for bloods on CD2-3 and then after DH repeats his SA in July we would probably be referred for assisted conception.

On top of that our HR is refusing to transfer my unused holidays to next year. they can pay for some but others I will just lose. I personally think this is so unfair! smb who is working every weekend and bank holiday should also be losing annual leave she is entitled to...

Finally DR Zhai accepted my bloods and made a prescription. I am supposed to collect my two weeks of raw herbs tomorrow. but she made no prescription for acu yet. I understand that I should take the herbs and only after they had some effect I can move on to herbs.

What a crap day Briss that sperm sample is an old one and I'm so sure that the good work your DH has done avoiding alcohol will make a difference to the next sample but understand your disappointment. .

I am thinking about medicated IVF simply because it is something we would only do once due to finances and I want best possible chance of it taking..... I would have been surprised if she had of said anything different about dhea. It's very powerful stuff and I'm reducing my dosage as the effects are just too noticeable now.

I am excited to hear about the herbs and how you get on with them. I want to know everything

Finally I was sorry to read about your holiday. Hardly the sort of action that would increase staff loyalty. Very very bad practice in light of the hours you have put in. Briss I hope you have a lazy day tomorrow and don't give work any thought. Hope the sun shines for you

 

[shiseru]

Negative beta so sad...

 

[Blythe]

Negative beta so sad...

I'm so so sorry

 

[Briss]

Shiseru, I am so very sorry. what is the next step for you? are you going to carry on naturally or do another assisted cycle?

I sort of gave up on TTC now, I mean I will continue temping OPK BD etc but I will try not to worry and hope because with hubby's numbers it's just useless. we have got to move to assisted. went for running today, would not normally do that in TWW. I do not think we can start IUI?IVF before fall so just going to relax about TTC until then.

My body is so attached to fat it would not give it up so easily it seems, for almost a week I have not lost anything and today my weight is slightly up I guess what is happening is that my metabolic rate slowed cos I did not do any exercise and my body learnt to live on less without losing any weight. I will be trying to do more exercise to boost my metabolic rate because I cant eat less that I do now, I literally eat a few pieces of fruit and veg and a tiny piece of meat or cheese ...cant live on this for long

Blythe, I finally got my herbs! it's so exciting, never seen anything like this and so smelly. once I have a bit more time I will write a proper report

 

[alison29]

So sorry Shiseru.

BRiss if it is only the alchohol the next test is bound to be better. I am glad you are still eating though because you are right the body will hold on to fat if in starvation mode but it sounds like you are eating enough.

Blythe I would lower the dhea too. I don't know about that supplement if it is causing bad symptoms maybe it is doing more harm then good. I had dh on it for a little while and he was a hormonal bitch omg.

let me see if the chart uploaded here