Chinese Accupuncture

[alison29]

Great you can link into my wacko chart from the url.
I am on cd 9. Start opks tomorrow.
Briss: You ovulated on cd 10 do the FS think that is too early?

 

[Briss]

Just got my new raw herbs, they look fascinating (see the picture). I tried sorting them into categories. interestingly I have identified 10 varieties but the doc only send me 7 names:

Baishaoyo
Chaihu
Danggui
Gancao
Mudanpi
Shanzhizu
Xiakucao

not all of them were on her original list but maybe she changed her prescription after she's looked at my blood tests.

Cooking them is tricky I must say, first of all I had to buy a new cooking pot because you cant use a normal one. My choices were:

Cooking Pot: Medium sized such as Arcoflam (also known as Pyroflam in Europe and Asia and under the name CorningWare StoveTop in the Western Hemisphere and the UK), Le Creuset cast iron, casserole, ceramic, or Pyrex. Please do not use an aluminium or metal saucepan.

I got Le Creuset cast iron - heavy and expensive stuff.

Secondly, it took me about 3 hours to prepare the first portion. I had to soak the herbs first then boil them then leave them in the oven for an hour and now I am finally drinking them. nasty stuff no idea how I will manage during the working week. I can soak them overnight but boiling and cooking will take at least 1.5 hours every morning.

These raw herbs should only be taken on full stomach (unlike powder)

 

[Briss]

Alison, I think I O on CD11, FF is playing up again. but even then it's quite early. my FS is not bothered but Dr Z identified my first half of the cycle is where the problem is, temp is a bit too high and O is a bit too early. hopefully her herbs will help with this.

unfortunately i cant see your chart, I probably need to register to be able to see it

 

[gingmg]

Hi ladies-
Haven't posted here before. Started acupuncture a few weeks ago. Going to try clomid (I think) for the first time soon. Was wondering if anyone takes baby aspirin? I'm posting here because I saw you ladies talking about clots during AF, which I always thought was normal, until I started going to acupuncture and she seemed concerned about it. I'm wondering if the baby aspirin will help flush out clots and then build a healthy lining?

 

[Briss]

gingmg, I have not tried aspirin but after acu my clots got better, I have very little clots now.

 

[Blythe]

Great you can link into my wacko chart from the url.
I am on cd 9. Start opks tomorrow.
Briss: You ovulated on cd 10 do the FS think that is too early?

Hi alison

it says i am not authorised to look at it....perhaps check settings for access permissions? im desperate to have a good nose

 

[Blythe]

Just got my new raw herbs, they look fascinating (see the picture). I tried sorting them into categories. interestingly I have identified 10 varieties but the doc only send me 7 names:

Baishaoyo
Chaihu
Danggui
Gancao
Mudanpi
Shanzhizu
Xiakucao

not all of them were on her original list but maybe she changed her prescription after she's looked at my blood tests.

Cooking them is tricky I must say, first of all I had to buy a new cooking pot because you cant use a normal one. My choices were:

Cooking Pot: Medium sized such as Arcoflam (also known as Pyroflam in Europe and Asia and under the name CorningWare StoveTop in the Western Hemisphere and the UK), Le Creuset cast iron, casserole, ceramic, or Pyrex. Please do not use an aluminium or metal saucepan.

I got Le Creuset cast iron - heavy and expensive stuff.

Secondly, it took me about 3 hours to prepare the first portion. I had to soak the herbs first then boil them then leave them in the oven for an hour and now I am finally drinking them. nasty stuff no idea how I will manage during the working week. I can soak them overnight but boiling and cooking will take at least 1.5 hours every morning.

These raw herbs should only be taken on full stomach (unlike powder)

oooo wonderful how very exciting....wowzer lots of prep involved. Im sure you will work out a nice little routine. Im excited to see how you feel after a couple of weeks on these and the effect it has on your cycle.

 

[Blythe]

Shiseru, I am so very sorry. what is the next step for you? are you going to carry on naturally or do another assisted cycle?

I sort of gave up on TTC now, I mean I will continue temping OPK BD etc but I will try not to worry and hope because with hubby's numbers it's just useless. we have got to move to assisted. went for running today, would not normally do that in TWW. I do not think we can start IUI?IVF before fall so just going to relax about TTC until then.

My body is so attached to fat it would not give it up so easily it seems, for almost a week I have not lost anything and today my weight is slightly up I guess what is happening is that my metabolic rate slowed cos I did not do any exercise and my body learnt to live on less without losing any weight. I will be trying to do more exercise to boost my metabolic rate because I cant eat less that I do now, I literally eat a few pieces of fruit and veg and a tiny piece of meat or cheese ...cant live on this for long

Blythe, I finally got my herbs! it's so exciting, never seen anything like this and so smelly. once I have a bit more time I will write a proper report

i know exactly what you mean about giving up TTC...i started to get AF a bit today and i really could not give a hoot. since deciding upon assisted conception i have felt almost divorced from the obsessing etc...it feels like a relief. My intention is to put it off until autumn but hopefully get my consultation in during summer.

i have decided to join a local slimming club...this may seem a little extreme but i did it before and it worked plus its an exercise club too....im joining on tues and i intend to lose at least a stone.

 

[Blythe]

Just got my new raw herbs, they look fascinating (see the picture). I tried sorting them into categories. interestingly I have identified 10 varieties but the doc only send me 7 names:

Baishaoyo
Chaihu
Danggui
Gancao
Mudanpi
Shanzhizu
Xiakucao

not all of them were on her original list but maybe she changed her prescription after she's looked at my blood tests.

Cooking them is tricky I must say, first of all I had to buy a new cooking pot because you cant use a normal one. My choices were:

Cooking Pot: Medium sized such as Arcoflam (also known as Pyroflam in Europe and Asia and under the name CorningWare StoveTop in the Western Hemisphere and the UK), Le Creuset cast iron, casserole, ceramic, or Pyrex. Please do not use an aluminium or metal saucepan.

I got Le Creuset cast iron - heavy and expensive stuff.

Secondly, it took me about 3 hours to prepare the first portion. I had to soak the herbs first then boil them then leave them in the oven for an hour and now I am finally drinking them. nasty stuff no idea how I will manage during the working week. I can soak them overnight but boiling and cooking will take at least 1.5 hours every morning.

These raw herbs should only be taken on full stomach (unlike powder)

PS - is that lot for a whole 2 weeks? if so how do you pick out herbs for the day?

 

[Blythe]

Hi ladies-
Haven't posted here before. Started acupuncture a few weeks ago. Going to try clomid (I think) for the first time soon. Was wondering if anyone takes baby aspirin? I'm posting here because I saw you ladies talking about clots during AF, which I always thought was normal, until I started going to acupuncture and she seemed concerned about it. I'm wondering if the baby aspirin will help flush out clots and then build a healthy lining?

i tried aspirin although just from ovulation onwards...it helps thin out blood and build lining apparently. i haven't bothered with it for a couple of months though. i still have little clots but i believe they are a completely normal part of my cycle. the larger ones i have not had for a long time and i think acu definitely helps with that.

 

[alison29]

Alison, I think I O on CD11, FF is playing up again. but even then it's quite early. my FS is not bothered but Dr Z identified my first half of the cycle is where the problem is, temp is a bit too high and O is a bit too early. hopefully her herbs will help with this.

unfortunately i cant see your chart, I probably need to register to be able to see it

ugh i am a tard...Not too much to see right now anyway.

Those herbs look really promising. I have faith in Dr Z

 

[alison29]

Hi ladies-
Haven't posted here before. Started acupuncture a few weeks ago. Going to try clomid (I think) for the first time soon. Was wondering if anyone takes baby aspirin? I'm posting here because I saw you ladies talking about clots during AF, which I always thought was normal, until I started going to acupuncture and she seemed concerned about it. I'm wondering if the baby aspirin will help flush out clots and then build a healthy lining?

I don't know. it can't hurt to take it and keep us posted. I took it for a while too.

 

[alison29]

I will let you know when i get permitting access for you guys. sorry,I am a techo tard.

Maybe i will take the rest of my baby aspirin (it feel out of the bottle into my desk at work) for this cycle what the h-ll.

 

[alison29]

ok switched to all public access and trying to get it to add to my signature

 

[Briss]

Alison, I can see it now!

Blythe, it's just for one day. I was shocked when she handed a huge bag to me with 14 smaller ones: one for each day so i do not need to sort them out. I checked their proper names and actually most of them were on my previous doc's list. the last two herbs are new.

 

[Briss]

got new spots this morning on my chin and forehead a bit disappointed cos I think it's the herbs on the other hand I feel a little bit like a witch cooking these weird looking herbs I will see what's going to happen in a week and then raise this with Dr Z. My DH thinks I am wasting time cos he admitted that he is the problem and that Dr Z should be dealing with him not me. I agree but that's her method: ladies first

Finally saw a bit of weight loss this morning! running seems to be working so will try to do more today

Blythe, I understand your wish to join a slimming club cos it's hard to do it on your own. Although I am quite lucky that I have got you, ladies! without your constant encouragement I do not think I would be able to make it this far: 3 weeks of no chocolate or bad sugars today!!! I do not think I managed to stay away from chocolate for this long in my entire life. A colleague who is trying to lose weight to qualify for IVF will be joining me on Tuesday. she suggested we go for some japanese diet but I think the only secret is to eat little and exercise. yesterday I had a small piece of chicken and fruit/veg that's all.

 

[Briss]

Negative beta so sad...

Shiseru, you have a very long LH and your temp is still up. maybe there is still hope it's just taking longer to implant?

 

[Blythe]

got new spots this morning on my chin and forehead a bit disappointed cos I think it's the herbs on the other hand I feel a little bit like a witch cooking these weird looking herbs I will see what's going to happen in a week and then raise this with Dr Z. My DH thinks I am wasting time cos he admitted that he is the problem and that Dr Z should be dealing with him not me. I agree but that's her method: ladies first

Finally saw a bit of weight loss this morning! running seems to be working so will try to do more today

Blythe, I understand your wish to join a slimming club cos it's hard to do it on your own. Although I am quite lucky that I have got you, ladies! without your constant encouragement I do not think I would be able to make it this far: 3 weeks of no chocolate or bad sugars today!!! I do not think I managed to stay away from chocolate for this long in my entire life. A colleague who is trying to lose weight to qualify for IVF will be joining me on Tuesday. she suggested we go for some japanese diet but I think the only secret is to eat little and exercise. yesterday I had a small piece of chicken and fruit/veg that's all.

maybe dr z thinks girls take longer than boys...once you are sorted she can probably sort the sperm out in a month-6 weeks...

you have done so incredibly well to stay away from rubbish food.....i am seriously impressed with your will power I wish i could do the same...i hope this slimming club idea works as i am so ready to tackle my eating habits and weight and i really think that will help with my fertility too [although vanity is the driving force].

 

[gingmg]

Hi Ladies,
Just got back from acupuncture. Does your acupuncturist burn you? She takes some kind of incense stick and it feels like she is burning my abdomen and lower back with it. I've asked before what it's for, but can barely understand her, and she's not much for explaining. I've just let it go, and let her do her thing, but was wondering if anyone else has this done and knows what it's for?
g

 

[Briss]

gignmg, I think this is Moxibustion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moxibustion, it can be used as a box or just as a small ball that they place on top of a needle and burn it. I had that before and I also have this box at home with the sticks but their smell is so strong that I do not use them very often. I think the main purpose is to warm the relevant parts of the body.

Blythe, I really do not think you can turn 1 mil sperm count with only accessional motility into good quality sperm in 6 weeks. It's more likely that she cant really do much in our situation. but I will continue to ask cos I do not think I will do more 1-2 months myself - just so expensive! she booked me for acu in 2 weeks right after I finish herbs and I was told that once every two weeks should be sufficient.

apparently I respond better to negative motivation when I was a little happier and hopeful I really needed something sweet to make me feel better when I am down. These days I am just so deeply depressed and hopeless that no amount of chocolate is going to change anything. not even sure how to explain this but in some sort of weird masochistic way it's almost like I am glad and it feels right when I feel hungry or deprived of chocolate which I crave terribly almost every day because that's almost the sort of pain I feel inside because I cant have a child (I do not actually feel it because it's not physical pain it's all in my head). sorry I do not think I can explain it better, I am not even sure I understand it myself. I just know there is no way I would be able to go through this if things were a little better. I guess accepting IVF is harder than I thought