Chinese Accupuncture

[MalaMae]

I got my period totally out of the blue and it's only 24th day!!! My LP this month was only 11 days!!!
I'm losing hope

 

[vkj73]

briss and blythe,
thanks for the reply. i agree, i was thinking i'll
treat myself to a holiday latte 1-2xs a week.
i bought some lemonbalm in bulk (a calming herb)
to mix with the nettles and raspberry leaf i bought.
i've seen it in a couple of fertility tea mixes.

i too was given herbs pre-ov, then different ones for post-ov.
i found the pill form to be the cheapest.

malamae, i'm sorry that af got you. my cds have jumped all around,
from 39 to 40 to 30. very frustrating.

hello and lots of to all of the gals on here!

 

[Blythe]

I got my period totally out of the blue and it's only 24th day!!! My LP this month was only 11 days!!!
I'm losing hope

I'm so sorry malamae. How long is your lp usually?

 

[MalaMae]

it's usually 14 days. But now I think I may had O ealrier (on day 10), but that day I had to take BBT at 7am instead of regular 9 am, so I thought I shouldn't take that temp in consideration. Unfortunately I didn't have ovulation tests that day to confirm this.
Check out my chart (in the signature below), then scroll down- it'll show the previous month. What do you think?

Thanks girls for the support. My DH is pissed off that I'm stressing out too much and I only needed a hug and positive words.

 

[Blythe]

it's usually 14 days. But now I think I may had O ealrier (on day 10), but that day I had to take BBT at 7am instead of regular 9 am, so I thought I shouldn't take that temp in consideration. Unfortunately I didn't have ovulation tests that day to confirm this.
Check out my chart (in the signature below), then scroll down- it'll show the previous month. What do you think?

Thanks girls for the support. My DH is pissed off that I'm stressing out too much and I only needed a hug and positive words.

Not sure - you still have positive OPKs up until day 16...are they the cheap ones - are you not getting a stronger positive on one of the days? You certainly have a big temp dip on the 10th - if this was your temp when you awoke then as long as you have had a good few hours sleep before hand i would trust that temp...Possibly your herbs brought your ovulation forward.

i will give you a big virtual I totally understand about DHs being a bit rubbish sometimes. I announced we had been trying for nearly 2 years and he laughed saying i was joking and it had been nearer a year. I could have hit him...i suppose for him it would seem like that as i have only been pumping him with every supplement i can lay my hands on for the last year! Sometimes they just need to nod and be sympathetic and say nothing!

hang on in there...i have no doubt it will happen for us all but it is bloody hard isn't it, particulary on months like this. I took vitex/angnus castus the other month and it really buggered up my cycle...it increased it by a few days and i was in bits by the end of it....DH completely oblivious to it all...

 

[Blythe]

briss and blythe,
thanks for the reply. i agree, i was thinking i'll
treat myself to a holiday latte 1-2xs a week.
i bought some lemonbalm in bulk (a calming herb)
to mix with the nettles and raspberry leaf i bought.
i've seen it in a couple of fertility tea mixes.

i too was given herbs pre-ov, then different ones for post-ov.
i found the pill form to be the cheapest.

malamae, i'm sorry that af got you. my cds have jumped all around,
from 39 to 40 to 30. very frustrating.

hello and lots of to all of the gals on here!

do you drink the raspberry leaf up til ovulation or after too? i really like nettle tea...i used to drink it to deal with hangovers although none of those nowadays!!

 

[MalaMae]

Thanks Blythe! My whole cycle last month was weird (I assume from the chemical).
But thanks for those words, you actually made me laugh

..and, yes, the OPKs are the cheap ones, so sometimes from those lines you can't make out anything.

 

[Briss]

MalaMae, I am very sorry about AF. 11 days is still within the norm and it is possible you ovulated earlier, hard to say. Have you been taking tiao jing Cu Yun Wan this cycle?

Blythe, I drink raspberry leaf up til ovulation.

I decided to give these new herbs a chance. they are so weird looking and taste funny. shall I just swallow them or do I need to chew them first?

My DH is being terrible, he continues with his beer like nothing is wrong. I am so mad at him!

Will try to start juicing detox tomorrow, we'll see how it goes.

 

[vkj73]

briss and blythe,
thanks for the reply. i agree, i was thinking i'll
treat myself to a holiday latte 1-2xs a week.
i bought some lemonbalm in bulk (a calming herb)
to mix with the nettles and raspberry leaf i bought.
i've seen it in a couple of fertility tea mixes.

i too was given herbs pre-ov, then different ones for post-ov.
i found the pill form to be the cheapest.

malamae, i'm sorry that af got you. my cds have jumped all around,
from 39 to 40 to 30. very frustrating.

hello and lots of to all of the gals on here!

do you drink the raspberry leaf up til ovulation or after too? i really like nettle tea...i used to drink it to deal with hangovers although none of those nowadays!!

that's a good question.
let's keep each other posted if either finds any info

 

[FireBaby]

Hi guys! I've been following your posts I've been doing acu at two different places - one is a community one (inexpensive) and one is a fertility acu (super expensive) anyway I've had similar chinese herb tablets before - you don't chew them - you just swallow them like regular tablets.

Well good luck on your cleanses! I might join you guys in a week or so

 

[MalaMae]

Briss, thanks! And I think you are right, more and more I think I ovulated earlier and we did BD right on time, but obviously nothing happened.
Don't chew chinese herbs, you don't want to do that. The worst taste ever.
I did take Tiao jing Cu Yun Wan this month (but can't remember what period of my cycle). Plus last week of cycle he mixed some powder for drinking, it was like drinking mud, so I added some honey to that. Well, the taste changed to sweet mud
So what I did is I closed my nose and drank quickly the whole thing, washed it with water and added some food with strong taste to kill it.
Anyway, ladies, thanks for the support, my spirit is in a better mood now.

 

[Briss]

It's not even lunch time and I am so hungry! I just had nettle tea all morning, still need to drink herbs and then these tablets. Thank you for the advice, it's a relief to know I don't need to chew them. I am not sure I will manage three days without any food (leave alone chocolate). but I really want to detoxify my body and hopefully lose a bit of weight. I have so much work today it's unlikely I will get home before midnight so no juicing today only teas….

 

[MalaMae]

Good luck Briss! Detox is hard.
Do you feel weak from hunger?

 

[Briss]

It's pathetic! I only managed to hold on without food until 3 pm… I just found it unbearable, I was so hungry that I could not concentrate on my drafting. in the end I rushed to pret for some soup and tuna baguette… may be if I had juices I would not be so terribly hungry, I do not know. having a bit of chocolate would also help not feel hungry but it probably defeats the purpose of detox… I also got really bad headache. My concentration is now back so back to work. shame about detox though, I did not know I was so weak, when I was younger I never cared about food…

 

[Blythe]

It's pathetic! I only managed to hold on without food until 3 pm… I just found it unbearable, I was so hungry that I could not concentrate on my drafting. in the end I rushed to pret for some soup and tuna baguette… may be if I had juices I would not be so terribly hungry, I do not know. having a bit of chocolate would also help not feel hungry but it probably defeats the purpose of detox… I also got really bad headache. My concentration is now back so back to work. shame about detox though, I did not know I was so weak, when I was younger I never cared about food…

Corrrrr....if i was working til midnight i would be eating too! Having tea only throughout the day is just too much particularly if you need your brain to work. maybe have a handful of seeds and nuts to see you through until home time (thats if you get home early enough). my juicer has not turned up so i have been making soups out of all the veg i brought at the weekend. I have been very busy at work and realised i stank of garlic today so went to the shop in my work building looking for some mints and came across a pack of rhubarb and custard boiled sweets - i ate about 25 and removed the roof of my mouth in the process.

maybe take some soup into work to see you through - its easy on the digestion and warming for your important bits inside and can fit in with a detox.

 

[Briss]

My detox miserably failed, I probably need to start with something small, like eating just once a day and not taking any chocolates (the hardest part) + juices; I have been trying that last two days. I am just so unhappy with how I look, last two years it was all about getting pregnant so I did not care that I was putting on weight but now I just feel like a failure – not pregnant and cant fit into any of my clothes anymore.

Have been working late this week so did not have a chance to make any juices, hoping to get home by 9 today so maybe I can manage juicing grapefruit or beetroots. drank lots of herbal teas though

Tiao Jing Cu Yun makes me sick if I take it on an empty stomach (which I do since I only eat once a day now)

I have been counting here and apparently in November I spent almost 500 pounds on Chinese stuff, most of which on herbs for myself and hubby. I paid for acu and herbs in advance so I am hoping for the next 3 weeks I wont have to pay anything more

 

[MalaMae]

Sorry Briss. Maybe you're strssing out too much over the detox, diet. Maybe if you do it more as diet change it will work better for you?
I found if I'm thinking of dieting I can never do it, so I just changed the diet and it works (plus I'm never hungry).

 

[Blythe]

My detox miserably failed, I probably need to start with something small, like eating just once a day and not taking any chocolates (the hardest part) + juices; I have been trying that last two days. I am just so unhappy with how I look, last two years it was all about getting pregnant so I did not care that I was putting on weight but now I just feel like a failure – not pregnant and cant fit into any of my clothes anymore.

Have been working late this week so did not have a chance to make any juices, hoping to get home by 9 today so maybe I can manage juicing grapefruit or beetroots. drank lots of herbal teas though

Tiao Jing Cu Yun makes me sick if I take it on an empty stomach (which I do since I only eat once a day now)

I have been counting here and apparently in November I spent almost 500 pounds on Chinese stuff, most of which on herbs for myself and hubby. I paid for acu and herbs in advance so I am hoping for the next 3 weeks I wont have to pay anything more

I feel the same with regard to not fitting into clothes etc.....I feel like I've been holding my breath for two years whilst ttc....I keep thinking once I'm pregnant il sort this, do that etc etc.....I think doing a semi juice fast is part of me trying to reclaim some control. Please don't be hard on yourself....I think you have done amazingly well as you seem to be putting in a lot of late nights at work. I have my juicer so will try it over the weekend. There is no getting around the fact that Chinese medicine is expensive but take some comfort from this..... https://www.zhaiclinic.com/
Check out those prices....yikes!!!

 

[Hoping4our1st]

hi everyone, i have read your posts and found it because i'm looking for a fertility accupunturist in Toronto. does anyone know? i know of a place that's down the hall conveniently from an IVF/ICSI clinic and another place was recommended but they treat females mostly but i'm curious of recommendations cuz it's really expensive.

thanks. i hope u all get pregnant very very soon.

Toronto Total Wellness Centre down the hall from an IVF/ICSI clinic called LifeQuest. Canadian Gynecology Institute of Chinese Medicne

here's some info on us in case other's can relate.

me: 42, test results i'm told are fine. i have 8-9 follicles on left and 1 on right. fsh is 5. we got married 5 months ago.

husband: 40 at end of December.
low sperm of less than 1 million
motility: "few"
morphology: too low count to do

Free testosterone 22.8 pmol/L (normal range is 31.0 - 94.0 pmol/L) (or 6.2 pg/ml)
FSH 32 IU/L (normal range is 2-12 IU/L)
WBC 3.8 (normal range is 4.0 - 11.0 x 10E9/L) not sure what WBC is exactly.

supplements he's taking are: good multi, L Carnitine, Macca, Bee pollen and Wheat germ (put on cereal), top quality CoQ10 (Inno-Vite, Ino-Q-Nol, stabilized coQ10 Ubiquinol), Ester C, Zinc, Astalagus, top quality Grape Seed, Selenium, E. I've taken vitamins for decades, i now take a good multi, extra CoQ100 & D, Macca, Wild Yam, bee pollen, wheat germ.

we see a urologist in dec.

 

[MalaMae]

hi everyone, i have read your posts and found it because i'm looking for a fertility accupunturist in Toronto. does anyone know? i know of a place that's down the hall conveniently from an IVF/ICSI clinic and another place was recommended but they treat females mostly but i'm curious of recommendations cuz it's really expensive.

thanks. i hope u all get pregnant very very soon.

Toronto Total Wellness Centre down the hall from an IVF/ICSI clinic called LifeQuest. Canadian Gynecology Institute of Chinese Medicne

here's some info on us in case other's can relate.

me: 42, test results i'm told are fine. i have 8-9 follicles on left and 1 on right. fsh is 5. we got married 5 months ago.

husband: 40 at end of December.
low sperm of less than 1 million
motility: "few"
morphology: too low count to do

Free testosterone 22.8 pmol/L (normal range is 31.0 - 94.0 pmol/L) (or 6.2 pg/ml)
FSH 32 IU/L (normal range is 2-12 IU/L)
WBC 3.8 (normal range is 4.0 - 11.0 x 10E9/L) not sure what WBC is exactly.

supplements he's taking are: good multi, L Carnitine, Macca, Bee pollen and Wheat germ (put on cereal), top quality CoQ10 (Inno-Vite, Ino-Q-Nol, stabilized coQ10 Ubiquinol), Ester C, Zinc, Astalagus, top quality Grape Seed, Selenium, E. I've taken vitamins for decades, i now take a good multi, extra CoQ100 & D, Macca, Wild Yam, bee pollen, wheat germ.

we see a urologist in dec.

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