Chinese Accupuncture

[Briss]

MalaMay, thanks you might be right, sometimes I do not eat the whole day and do not even notice but once I decided that I am fasting it suddenly became impossible.

Blythe, you are doing really great with your diet, is it almost two weeks now? I wish I could have your discipline. But I am trying. I did not realise how much chocolate I was actually consuming on a daily basis. Today one of my colleagues noted that my desk looked empty without all the chocolate quite sad really. Congratulations on finally getting your juicer. Have you tried it yet? which one did you buy? Let me know if you find any combination of veggies that taste nice when juiced, particularly green ones.

Hoping welcome! Unfortunately I cant help with clinics in Toronto, I am in the UK. I can certainly relate to low sperm count issues, my hubby has less than 3 mil but it is probably his own fault because he loves his beer and drinks lots of it. He is trying to change his ways but it is very hard. I also have him a list of supplements and chinese herbs but unless he quits beer completely I do not think anything will change so we are facing IVF.

 

[Blythe]

I got a Philips one....it was on ebay and the seller had only used it a couple of times so i paid under 40 for it. I have unpacked it and i will have my first juice tonight - I'm thinking of the one you suggested - carrot and beets first and then look through my book tonight for some inspiring ones to put together over the weekend.

been a bit off the diet really this week - i have found work to be very stressful and the people in my office behave like children sometimes but, still i have refrained from going to the vending machine for diary milks so that is progress for me!!

looking forward to the weekend - time to get gifts sorted and cards written so i can go back to obsessing about TTC

 

[Briss]

That's super cheap for a juicer, well done! Mine was terribly expensive something like 200 pounds and it's not even that great. For example I use the entire pack of carrots (half kg) for a large glass of juice. Some juicers can give you the same amount out of 2-3 large carrots.

carrot and beets is delicious! but be careful and do not drink it too fast you may feel sick. I use 5-6 carrots for ½ beetroot, I love my carrots

I also had a very stressful and busy week at work, but would probably be able to leave before 7 today which is great. Also, I cant seem to keep up with all the Chinese stuff I am supposed to drink/swallow during the day. I am not sure if the herbs made any difference this cycle I got HIGH on my CBFM on CD 6 which is super early but exactly the same as last cycle so will probably ovulate on Sunday CD11, EPO is usually good at delaying my O for a couple of days but Chinese herbs do not seem to work that way.

I have ordered some yoga DVD for the second chakra (supposedly the one for fertility), I have tried yoga before but it did not stick, will be trying again next week

 

[Blythe]

That's super cheap for a juicer, well done! Mine was terribly expensive something like 200 pounds and it's not even that great. For example I use the entire pack of carrots (half kg) for a large glass of juice. Some juicers can give you the same amount out of 2-3 large carrots.

carrot and beets is delicious! but be careful and do not drink it too fast you may feel sick. I use 5-6 carrots for ½ beetroot, I love my carrots

I also had a very stressful and busy week at work, but would probably be able to leave before 7 today which is great. Also, I cant seem to keep up with all the Chinese stuff I am supposed to drink/swallow during the day. I am not sure if the herbs made any difference this cycle I got HIGH on my CBFM on CD 6 which is super early but exactly the same as last cycle so will probably ovulate on Sunday CD11, EPO is usually good at delaying my O for a couple of days but Chinese herbs do not seem to work that way.

I have ordered some yoga DVD for the second chakra (supposedly the one for fertility), I have tried yoga before but it did not stick, will be trying again next week

i have just had my first juice and it was delicious....i love it! it was the juice master's detox special and i used:

2 apples
1 carrot
1/2 yellow pepper
i peice of celery
1 beetroot

[i did not add the other bits he recommended inc. slice of lemon, slice cucumber, ice and broccoli stem]

lots of washing up though but really tasty so happy with that...im going to do another fruit/veg shop later and try and last on juices only this weekend.

have you got your peak yet? my CBFM is on top of my wardrobe - i didn't want to keep forking out for sticks each month and i make do with either the smily face or cheapies....might not even bother at all this month as i usually O on day 14/15. still its always quite exciting when you see the little egg on peak day.

 

[Briss]

I just had a pint of my favorite beet root and carrots; will definitely be trying your recipe later today I have all the ingredients. I have not had anything else to eat yet but something tells me that I will...

Got my PEAk today on CD10 as expected. I am not doing OPK this month cos I run out of sticks and do not feel like spending money. I usually O between CD11-14 - quite a gap and CBFM comes in handy.

 

[Briss]

2 apples
1 carrot
1/2 yellow pepper
i peice of celery
1 beetroot

.

It's really good! I can drink a lot of it, just made myself a pint I also made cucumber juice with greens - quite nasty but hubby seems to like it although I added some ginger to his juice and he added tonnes of salt and pepper

 

[vkj73]

after taking a break last cycle, i had my first appointment this morning.
i felt really good about it. the intern worked for 4 years with someone who specializes in fertility. she asked me much more detailed questions that past interns. i'm going to go for 2 more treatments this cycle.

the last few cycles i took the herbs in pill/capsule form.
i decided to "up" it a little, and take the powder form.

blythe, she recommended to only drink raspberry tea during af and for a short bit after. definitely not during ovulation and after.

hope this finds you all well.

 

[Blythe]

2 apples
1 carrot
1/2 yellow pepper
i peice of celery
1 beetroot

.

It's really good! I can drink a lot of it, just made myself a pint I also made cucumber juice with greens - quite nasty but hubby seems to like it although I added some ginger to his juice and he added tonnes of salt and pepper

that is such a bloke thing to do! sometimes i cook something really nice for DH and the first thing he does is stick hot pepper sauce on it without even tasting it! Its good your DH is having some juices - might help with the swimmers. I had a biggish temp rise this am but not due to ovulate for about 4 days so hope it wasn't early ovulation as have not DTD recently...probably just because i took temp an hour later than usual and hopefully tomorrow it will be low again.

that juice is quite filling isnt it...i had two juices yesterday and a load of soup with lentils in the evening as i was just so so hungry.

 

[Blythe]

after taking a break last cycle, i had my first appointment this morning.
i felt really good about it. the intern worked for 4 years with someone who specializes in fertility. she asked me much more detailed questions that past interns. i'm going to go for 2 more treatments this cycle.

the last few cycles i took the herbs in pill/capsule form.
i decided to "up" it a little, and take the powder form.

blythe, she recommended to only drink raspberry tea during af and for a short bit after. definitely not during ovulation and after.

hope this finds you all well.

thats great that you have found someone who asks lots of questions...it means so much if you find someone that genuinely listens and wants to find out as much as they can....i hope that if i return to it i will find someone like that instead of just [seemingly] paying lip service to what i am telling them.

i think the ground herbs are so much more powerful than the tablets....

Thanks for the tip re the tea....Its at work so i have not had any for a couple of days so safe....i had lots last cycle but really only about 5 cups this cycle so doubtful about whether its made any difference. im not a massive fan of the taste. I have been drinking loads more nettle tea which makes me feel clean inside and like it may actually help.

 

[Briss]

Vkj, that's sounds really good, I wonder about my acu practitioner cos she does not really specialise in fertility. Where do you get needles? I get mine in my head, between my breasts, two under my ribs and ovaries, one on my belly, three on each leg and two on arms - quite a few they are always the same but after O I get less needles on my legs. I also get electrics going through the belly and ovary needles.

Blythe, I agree the temp rise is probably due to an hour difference. I usually adjust my temps if I cant take them at the right time on here https://www.whenmybaby.com/basalbodytemperature.php the later you take you temp the higher it will get.

afm, just got back from my 5th acu appointment, it was very relaxing with cupping and massage after that, really nice. I did not get new herbs cos I still have some left from last week with these new herby pills twice a day I only managed to drink her teas once a day.

I was very good yesterday with my juices, I had my usual treat i.e. coffee with a piece of cake and also grapefruit but other than that I only had juices. Today I also had coffee/cake and herbal tea, will be making juices later and probably eat some watermelon.

Re the tea, I usually mix them all together i.e. raspberry, red clover and nettles and add fresh mint for a better taste, it's really nice. but after O I only drink nettles.

 

[Blythe]

Vkj, that's sounds really good, I wonder about my acu practitioner cos she does not really specialise in fertility. Where do you get needles? I get mine in my head, between my breasts, two under my ribs and ovaries, one on my belly, three on each leg and two on arms - quite a few they are always the same but after O I get less needles on my legs. I also get electrics going through the belly and ovary needles.

Blythe, I agree the temp rise is probably due to an hour difference. I usually adjust my temps if I cant take them at the right time on here https://www.whenmybaby.com/basalbodytemperature.php the later you take you temp the higher it will get.

afm, just got back from my 5th acu appointment, it was very relaxing with cupping and massage after that, really nice. I did not get new herbs cos I still have some left from last week with these new herby pills twice a day I only managed to drink her teas once a day.

I was very good yesterday with my juices, I had my usual treat i.e. coffee with a piece of cake and also grapefruit but other than that I only had juices. Today I also had coffee/cake and herbal tea, will be making juices later and probably eat some watermelon.

Re the tea, I usually mix them all together i.e. raspberry, red clover and nettles and add fresh mint for a better taste, it's really nice. but after O I only drink nettles.

that little calculator is brill and it has put my mind as ease - many thanks. Well done it sounds like you have had a couple of good healthy days and with your peaks days it perfect timing. I have been doing so well but not completely juicing as its just a bit too tuff for me right now. I just had to pop out to sainsburys and buy some chocolate.....its just too cold outside to be healthy!!! im going for a smear in the morning so its my compensation....then onto DTD as much as we can during the week and keeping everything crossed for a christmas BFP for me and you all too....

 

[Briss]

I know it was not a proper detox, but still i hope i gave my body a bit of a break. Had plenty of juices today and watermelon, Am very hungry so had a tiny piece of chocolate just to get rid of this feeling. am trying to hold on until tomorrow.

I had my smear two months ago and it happened to be on my O day, i was so concerned it can spoil my chances but a girl on bnb assured me that it is the other way around, she had her bfp on the cycle she had her smear test. unfortunately i was not lucky. I hope that's your month!

we also need to get a couple of more BD sessions today and tomorrow to cover all the basis. DH is not in the mood so will have to be creative...

 

[vermeil]

Just wanted to give a quick update - as said earlier on this thread I started acupuncture during my 2 month ivf cycle. Typically I should have started before but I hesitated for a while. Well I got my bfp so who knows if the acupuncture helped! It was a lot of appointments and rather expensive (it`s 75$ a visit, usually once a week but the week of egg retrieval / transfer I went like 4-5 times). You can be sure I'm continuing for these first few cautious weeks. I can`t prove that the acu helped but I certainly can`t prove that it didn`t!

My acu said some people get little effect from the treatments - me personally I leave there feeling soooooo relaxed - my appetite has improved and I sleep better. Just generally in a better mood. Of course being in an ivf cycle and so feeling that I was finally doing something proactive probably helped too

 

[vkj73]

Vkj, that's sounds really good, I wonder about my acu practitioner cos she does not really specialise in fertility. Where do you get needles? I get mine in my head, between my breasts, two under my ribs and ovaries, one on my belly, three on each leg and two on arms - quite a few they are always the same but after O I get less needles on my legs. I also get electrics going through the belly and ovary needles.

Blythe, I agree the temp rise is probably due to an hour difference. I usually adjust my temps if I cant take them at the right time on here https://www.whenmybaby.com/basalbodytemperature.php the later you take you temp the higher it will get.

afm, just got back from my 5th acu appointment, it was very relaxing with cupping and massage after that, really nice. I did not get new herbs cos I still have some left from last week with these new herby pills twice a day I only managed to drink her teas once a day.

I was very good yesterday with my juices, I had my usual treat i.e. coffee with a piece of cake and also grapefruit but other than that I only had juices. Today I also had coffee/cake and herbal tea, will be making juices later and probably eat some watermelon.

Re the tea, I usually mix them all together i.e. raspberry, red clover and nettles and add fresh mint for a better taste, it's really nice. but after O I only drink nettles.

usually, one on the hand, one on the wrist, feet, lower leg area, and stomach/ovaries. it can vary a bit (i've had the forehead before).
we shall see...

 

[Blythe]

Just wanted to give a quick update - as said earlier on this thread I started acupuncture during my 2 month ivf cycle. Typically I should have started before but I hesitated for a while. Well I got my bfp so who knows if the acupuncture helped! It was a lot of appointments and rather expensive (it`s 75$ a visit, usually once a week but the week of egg retrieval / transfer I went like 4-5 times). You can be sure I'm continuing for these first few cautious weeks. I can`t prove that the acu helped but I certainly can`t prove that it didn`t!

My acu said some people get little effect from the treatments - me personally I leave there feeling soooooo relaxed - my appetite has improved and I sleep better. Just generally in a better mood. Of course being in an ivf cycle and so feeling that I was finally doing something proactive probably helped too

congratulations that is lovely news

 

[Briss]

vermeil, congratulation H&H 9 months!

VKJ, that's quite similar to what I have. my previous acupuncturist (also Chinese) placed quite a few needles in my ear for some reason

Cant say that I got a healthy temp rise this morning, it's rather small, not sure if it qualifies for O. anyway we BD every other day including my first peak, more often than that is not recommended for low sperm count so we could only do so much. I have a very tiny window between the end of my AF and O, about 4 days - not a lot of space for BD really. looking at my chart I cant say acupuncture and herbs made a lot of change here. I still ovulate rather early. Will see if my post O temp will form a nice curvy line. Once I finish the herbs I already paid for (probably another 3-4 weeks) I will only continue with acupuncture and go back to my usual supplements. Will be starting pineapples from tomorrow

 

[Blythe]

Middleton is pregnant....clearly being completely scrawny has not affected her fertility!

 

[Briss]

Middleton is pregnant....clearly being completely scrawny has not affected her fertility!

it took them a while so it might have. Somehow this news made me feel depressed ...

 

[Blythe]

Me too...

 

[Blythe]

Middleton is pregnant....clearly being completely scrawny has not affected her fertility!

it took them a while so it might have. Somehow this news made me feel depressed ...

If Denise welch announces she's pregnant I'm going to go into hiding!