Chinese Accupuncture

[MalaMae]

He also told me 2-3 days after O stop BD. The explanation was: the uterus is getting ready to accept the egg and also if implantation happens, the BD may relax the muscles of uterus and the egg may get deattach.

 

[MalaMae]

Found something in the book for you: "The dramatic peaks and falls of hormone levels (especially oestrogen) at midcycle can sometimes provoke some bleeding from the endometrium. This is more likely to occur if the growth and structure of the endometrium has not been established soundly earlier in the follicular phase."

 

[Briss]

Blythe, your temp looks strange, do you still temp vaginally? maybe it's not bad that Chinese medicine institute charges a consultation fee, at least you will have an actual consultation. do you know if they do what MalaMae's book says? I mean change the herbs depending on your cycle?

I've been doing late nights at the office almost every day this week, so exhausting I cant do it, not young anymore on top of that I am taking overnight flight tomorrow going for some client meetings, so much for taking it easy during TWW, the only positive thing is that I am going to be super busy next week so hopefully wont even notice these dreaded last few days before AF arrives. I did not bother with herbs and forgot to take my vitamins, will start again from the next cycle. my acne got out of control, really unpleasant, particularly facing clients

 

[Blythe]

Briss -have missed seeing your posts! Your job sounds exciting...but hectic! It will be good to be busy during those last few tortorous days! Your chart looks very healthy....everything crossed for you.

Ive been ill hence crazy temps but everything back to normal now...although have been taking codeine for my back which is not so great. No yoga for me tomorrow night but will start BD and hopefully manage everyday till tues.

The chinese medicine institute guy said they would want to see all western test results which i thought encouraging but did not really provide much other info as said would need to make appt.....

 

[Briss]

I also feel like I am missing out on things when I cant come to B&B and I love your posts - keeps me going and hoping.

I asked my DH's friend (who is married to a chinese) to recommend a good acu doc and he recommended his friend who finished some acu training only a year ago an opened his clinic - does not look like a great option. interestingly his chinese wife does not go to any acu doc and prefers western approach to health...I wonder why

did you take codeine for back pain? maybe you can ask your acu doc to fix this? acu is supposed to be great for pain relief. I would be worried if I had to take it after O (before O is fine)

 

[Blythe]

Yeah codeine for back.....will certainly be requesting some help for back on Sunday....an extended lower back rub around ovulation.... Now that is something to get excited about! He did say he had added done herbs sir my back last time but it has only got worse.

Hope your temps continue on the up.... Good to see nice steady temps

 

[Blythe]

Found something in the book for you: "The dramatic peaks and falls of hormone levels (especially oestrogen) at midcycle can sometimes provoke some bleeding from the endometrium. This is more likely to occur if the growth and structure of the endometrium has not been established soundly earlier in the follicular phase."[/QUOTI seem to be having lots of peaks and falls at the mo....hoping now I'm gearing up for ovulation they steady themselves out....hope you get your + opk soon....I'm expecting mine probably Sunday but will try to start BD tonight. Thanks for info....cannot wait till weekend for some relaxation!!

 

[Briss]

I think it was probably due to acu that my temps got steadier after O, I am hoping it is although I did not take the herbs this cycle. my pre O temps got lower in general but I think it's cos it's winter…. unfortunately due to time difference I wont be able to temp while abroad until next cycle but I am also relieved one thing less to get obsessed over

Blythe, get plenty of BD in, good luck! I hope this will be your month!

 

[Blythe]

Just come back from acu and he has helped with my back.... I said to the receptionist that i could not afford another round of acu but not herbs....anyhow she kept rabbiting on saying herbs were the more powerful part of the treatment and acu probably accounts for about 40% of the overall treatment.....she then started going on about celienne dion (really pulling out the big guns here!!) saying her pregnancy was all down to acu...i though she had ivf too....

Anyhow the upshot of all this was i paid for another round of herbs and acu...im so weak...once she mentioned dion it was game over really

London is crap and grey today....and i have a chin full of boil type spots...im taking this as a good sign in that i haven't had spots like this mid cycle since i was in my 20s so I'm hoping something is tricking my body into feeling/behaving younger again!

 

[Briss]

I remember I was complaning to my GP about my age but then I got acne and was really upset and he was laughing saying you wanted to look younger here you are you now look like a teanager

I also read that herbs are considered to be more powerful than acu

 

[Blythe]

Briss -are you back in the uk yet? Will you start temping again or will you leave it for this cycle?

 

[Briss]

am still abroad but I have checked and apprently it's really easy to do AMH and DHEa blood tests here, I have a free morning tomorrow and will try to do it. there are test centers everywhere when you can just walk in and do almost any test you can think of and they will send you results by email. not sure how accurate they are but should be as good any I suppose

am back on Wednesday and will resume temping from thursday which is supposed to be CD1

 

[Blythe]

That's good.....I wish it were simpler here and we could just get our docs to refer us and then pay for it. I'm starting to see a stronger line on opk but still not positive so the extra B vits have certainly delayed ovulation but probably only day or two.

 

[Briss]

you may get a true positive tomorrow and O on CD14 which is perfect, I can see that you O on CD16 in September do you recall if you were also taking B vit during that cycle? I am definatelly trying it next cycle.

I have been trying not to think about TTC until my return but it's not working out cant get it out of my mind had a dream last night as if I got pregnant, imagine my disappointment when I woke up i have familiar AF type symptoms and generally feel restless and emotional

 

[Blythe]

Those dreams are lovely but the reality when we wake up harsh....I'm still really trying to really believe it will happen and was earlier playing over a conversation in my head....the one when I tell my boss I'm pregnant!! I took another look at my opk and its gone positive. It was the vitex that delayed my ovulation till cd16 and it gave me headaches but some girls say they go....are you going to finish your herbs?

The last week is horrid....I'm still baffled when I read those LTTTC BFP stories where they say they they had given up, no symptom spotting and only did a test as period late.... I can't ever imagine not obsessing....I wish I could stop though its exhausting. I hope this all becomes a distant memory for us all soon. There have been some benefits though....the yoga, giving up caffeine and even dabbling in meditation means when pregnancy does happen (and it will) will be chilled out and not too fat!

 

[Briss]

I do that every TWW, trying to imagine various people's reaction when I tell them I am pregnant I am so enjoying it but then I feel like AF is coming and feel crushed and disappointed

CD16 is a bit too much so i guess i am going with B vit and not vitex

I will be taking herbs from CD1, still have 3 week supply

Kundalini yoga teaches the same thing, you have to give it up (I mean give up your dream) before you get it. I cant do, I just cant.

 

[Blythe]

Malamae - i see you are getting your ovulation a couple of days later than usual...

i thought mine was going to be delayed as i did not pick up any line on OPK until yesterday afternoon [usually test twice per day] which then turned positive and i tested again this am and its already fading so a very short sharp rise in LH for me which i could have easily missed if i didn't test twice per day. I usually get a few days where the line is very apparent before turning positive. I'm now expecting to ovulate later today/tomorrow, My DH is very very tired at the moment so I'm hoping i can squeeze another BD session out of him.

 

[Blythe]

I do that every TWW, trying to imagine various people's reaction when I tell them I am pregnant I am so enjoying it but then I feel like AF is coming and feel crushed and disappointed

CD16 is a bit too much so i guess i am going with B vit and not vitex

I will be taking herbs from CD1, still have 3 week supply

Kundalini yoga teaches the same thing, you have to give it up (I mean give up your dream) before you get it. I cant do, I just cant.

it is the worse bit when you know she is on her way....over these last couple of years i have got to know my body so well and know all the little [and big painful] signs. I cannot imagine my BFP taking me by surprise but you read so many stories of women being shocked when they mistake all the usual AF signs and it turns out to be a BFP.

keep positive..if its not this month it WILL come soon

 

[Briss]

Blythe, thank you. i also cant imagine BFP taking me by surprise I can feel AF a few days in advance (though it does not stop me from hoping for a BFP anyway). ever since hubby agreed to give up beer I feel so hopeful that for the first time we may have a real chance in a couple of months.

I managed to do DHEA and AMH tests this morning (although not looking forward to results at all) as well as a few others like iron levels etc. and paid all together something like 55 pounds and a nurse who took my blood was actually very good, not a mark left. at st Mary's I sometimes have to go through 2 nurses and get both arms pearced before they manage to get my blood. This is quite shocking actualy. what interesting is that they suggest taking AMH on CD3-5 like FSH but obviously I am at the end of my cycle. I read that AMH does not fluctuate so hoping I get more or less accurate result regardless of CD.

 

[Blythe]

£55 is great....i would love to know what my DHEA levels are. im doing 25mg per day at the moment of the 7-KETO-DHEA and its fine although i found myself getting a bit angry on 50mg per day [that could have just me having a few off days though].

i wish they had those places in the UK...

when can you expect the results?