Chinese Accupuncture

Yes i think that lunch break called for a chocolate bar:thumbup

Im thinking of just improving my overall general health as i want to be fit and look good when i get pregnant....the way I've been going would see me lardy and miserable with zero energy.
 
Since we are all concerned about our diets, especially trying the diet to be conception friendly, I found "conception diet" divided by period cycles, i.e. different food during period, follicular phase, ovulation and luteal phase. It's interesting:
https://www.urbanmommies.com/pregnancy/conception-and-food-what-to-eat-and-when-to-bring-on-baby/
https://www.cyclediet.com/follicular_phase_menu.php
 
Since we are all concerned about our diets, especially trying the diet to be conception friendly, I found "conception diet" divided by period cycles, i.e. different food during period, follicular phase, ovulation and luteal phase. It's interesting:
https://www.urbanmommies.com/pregnancy/conception-and-food-what-to-eat-and-when-to-bring-on-baby/
https://www.cyclediet.com/follicular_phase_menu.php

Thanks for posting links...i am really going to try to follow some of the advice set out here...in particular avoiding caffeine and trying to maintain a stable blood sugar level by not snacking on chocolate. Currently drinking red wine which is ok as its valentines!
 
https://www.chinesemedicinetimes.com/free%20files/The%20Treatment%20of%20Infertility%20with%20Chinese%20Medicine.pdf

Check this out. Complete fertility TCM with acupuncture points :) "Diagnosis and
treatment of female infertility"
I think is something like a school book.

..and Blythe, red wine on Valentines is absolutely fine :) even recommended :)
 
https://www.chinesemedicinetimes.com/free%20files/The%20Treatment%20of%20Infertility%20with%20Chinese%20Medicine.pdf

Check this out. Complete fertility TCM with acupuncture points :) "Diagnosis and
treatment of female infertility"
I think is something like a school book.

..and Blythe, red wine on Valentines is absolutely fine :) even recommended :)

Malamae :flower: This is great.....going to print out and read through. Thanks so much for posting....briss it has a bit in there on being both yin and yang deficicent.

Thank you :flower:
 
MalaMae, thank you very much for posting! This is absolutely fantastic!!! am also going to print out and read through.

Had a few glasses of Champaign last night :) but I am not worried cos I am disregarding this cycle (well trying to). hubby suddenly turned all romantic and stuff - sent me flowers and "I love you" balloons to work :) was slightly embarrassed but also happy that at least our relationships improving.

My awful spot keeps bleeding but it's shrinking which is great. the others are not as scary but it may take longer to get rid of them.
 
Briss, the spot STILL bleeds??? NOW it's weird. Shouldn't be happening for that long! Can you change the acupuncturist? Do so if you can, but don't give up. The body needs some time to start working properly. Maybe you'll even have more success with the new acupuncturist.

You are both very welcome for the book. :) I got very excited when I found it and had to share it with you :)
Also I started charting every week the points where he's putting the needles. I'll compare it with the book.
 
i was looking at the labels on my supps this morning and saw on my royal jelly capsules that they also contain soybean oil, soy lecithin amongst other things....taking soy throughout cycle is a bit of a no-no isn't it? i tried the soy isoflavines last year for three months and remember taking them only for 4 days or something like that at the beginning of my cycle. i might stop taking these as im a bit worried now..

any thoughts/opinions would be gratefully received...
 
MalaMae, thank you very much for posting! This is absolutely fantastic!!! am also going to print out and read through.

Had a few glasses of Champaign last night :) but I am not worried cos I am disregarding this cycle (well trying to). hubby suddenly turned all romantic and stuff - sent me flowers and "I love you" balloons to work :) was slightly embarrassed but also happy that at least our relationships improving.

My awful spot keeps bleeding but it's shrinking which is great. the others are not as scary but it may take longer to get rid of them.

apparently manuka honey applied directly on spots works at treat!!
 
it does not bleed all the time, just from time to time but it gets smaller with every bleed...

Blythe, I am not sure about soybean oil and soy lecithin. I hope the quantity is not enough to have any effect but it is actually the reason why I take breaks from all my supps from time to time. I also stopped taking royal jelly supps and started eating bee pollen in its natural form instead (it tastes a bit funny though)
 
Briss thank you....i am going to stop taking them....i went nto boots last night and they also had lethicin in their RJ supps so not going to bother at all and look for the real thing.
 
Phrumkidost, congratulations and H&H 9 months! It's so lucky to find an acu doc you can totally trust and who can make s difference. Can I ask what points you had needled and whether you generally felt better after a few weeks of acu? I am going for my last acu appointment this Sunday and then I think I am going to take a break. I will still be taking herbs. It's interesting that you never had any bleeding. I had quite a few, even now I still have my left zigong bruising quite bad. One of NHS' doctors who also trained in acu said it happens sometimes that a needle punctures a blood vessel and I understand it's not a big deal (although when I look at my bruising I am not happy at all)

Thank you!
The points he needled varied on where I was in my cycle, but I can't remember specifically what changed. In general, the points were: feet, outside of calves, inside of thigh near knee, area in hand between thumb and forefinger, tummy, top of head. Once or twice he did the side of my head, too. He left them in for a bout thirty minutes, and usually came back about half-way through to give them all another vibrate. I always felt better after a treatment, but I think that's because it relaxed me.

The first full cycle I was really slow to ovulate (CD 23) but I had a real ovulation, with lots of EWCM (new for me) and a strong desire to BD with every guy I saw -- LOL. Timing was off that month for us, though. The next cycle everything continued by my Oing was moved up to around CD 14. Again, I had the EWCM and strong desire to BD. Timing was good and that was the cycle that worked. Both months my temps were good in that the two phases were very clearly distinct.

hi phrumkidost

good to see you posting here! I remember you also had issues with spotting and were using a prog cream. I used it for a couple of months and had no spotting but this month spotting has returned with a vengeance:cry: did you keep applying the cream right up to time AF expected or before?

congratulations to you...always lovely to see a BFP result. x

Thank you! I did stick with the prog cream. The first month I stopped when AF came and started up again only after O. The second month, after my BFP, I just continued to take it. I had been advised to keep with it as my body may need to rely on it to keep pregnancy healthy. The spotting got better with it, but didn't completely go away. The month I got pregnant I had three days of implantation bleeding which I thought was very early spotting.

Blythe, were you using the cream only Post O?

Thanks again to you all for your good wishes! I'm crossing my fingers you all get good news soon, too.

In case it helps, I'm posting a link to my charts. I'll probably continue to stalk this thread, too, if that's okay (I know not everyone likes to be reminded someone else has had luck in ttc).

https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/3faf62//thumb.png
My Ovulation Chart


Hi phrumkidost

i wonder if you could help me please..? I am just going through all my supps and checking the labelling and notice with my progesterone cream that if is natural prog from soy with wild yam root extract....did the cream you use have that or was it different?
 
Briss thank you....i am going to stop taking them....i went nto boots last night and they also had lethicin in their RJ supps so not going to bother at all and look for the real thing.

I was talking to bee farmers and was told that it's quite difficult to obtain and store royal jelly but bee pollen is easier. I will go through my past posts I think somebody recommended a website where you can buy it directly from bee farmers which is ideal
 
Briss - thank you i was thinking about trying to get some fresh stuff last night and went a farmers market this morning but nothing there...i went into a whole food store and they have local english honey pollen and fresh royal jelly all in one...its in a pot and has no other nasties in it so got that for £15 and it just says to have a teaspoon 1/2 times per day so il give this a go.

i feel good today...the yoga and cutting out caffeine and choc bars is making me feel so much better...
 
Today I feel like a hero, I've just done 2 hour mountain biking!! my bottom hurts :) I am going to try to do a regular thing out of it, it's just 12 pounds to hire a bike. I hope it's not counteractive to TTC though. although I did have two large pieces of chocolate cake for breakfast...

definitely going to whole food store tomorrow for honey pollen and fresh royal jelly. does it taste fine?
 
Well done....that sounds great and what a lovely day for it...it felt like spring earlier! I thinks its great to get the blood circulating and pumping round and it doesnt involve any jumping so all good.

The pot i got is from the area in the shop selling supplements....i originally started looking in their fridge but they didnt have any super fresh stuff...my local shop is called 'AsNature Intended' and the pot is called Hayfeguard pro pollen factor plus...and it is local english honey, pollen and fresh royal jelly....its really hard honey but quite tasty...had some straight and some melted with ginger...yum!
 
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id...#v=onepage&q=nurture yin in folicular&f=false

Hope this link works....googlebook on tcm and fertility....
 
well continued spotting a bit but not bright red anymore so will amend my chart to a spotting day rather than CD1.

i brought a mixture of green tea with jasmine leafs...im not sure what chinese tea is. i always thought people said it when referring to green tea. i drink japanese matcha green tea sometimes...its powdered and like rocket fuel...like espresso shots!

I am being nosey and reading your thread :blush:
In the US at least, the tea you get in Chinese restaurants in Oolong, which is a type tea between black and green. I have found various oolong teas in shops, I think Newbeys does one with Ginseng.
 
Blythe, thanks really interesting book! I'm going through MalaMae's book and it says at the beginning that if there is functional infertility that means kidney Yin and Yang depleted. that's what her assistant said but this is most unhelpful just because I cant get pregnant they cant just assume I have these deficiencies particularly because we have sperm issues nothing to do with me. I am beginning to think they just diagnose kidney Yin and Yang deficiency on the basis of infertility without doing proper diagnosis. I am feeling disappointed because I have looked through various types prepared by various authors and I never put myself in any type of kidney deficiency it's always been the spleen and minor liver Qi stagnation. just wanted to get it out, am continuing reading maybe I will find something that will point out to kidney deficiency
 
The info that malamae posted and the link i put up yesterday are so interesting and informative but they give me little comfort in terms of the treatment i am receiving.....the whole point of chinese medicine is that each treatment is unIque to that person and changes depending on response to treatments and where we are in our cycles.....my treatments have rarely changed nor my herbal prescription....

There is a lady who works in clapham junction called dr maggie ju who trained in china and did a further degree in the uk and she specialises in fertility...unfortunately she charges upwards of £50 per session but i expect her treatments would change throughout cycle. My doc never asks if if im due to ovulate only if i am on my period....he asked at the beginning about pmt but never any questions since...has never asked about the kind of bleeding i get etc etc.....

My periods are becomming lighter which is no bad thing but if they become any lighter i would worry.

Im feeling wretched today and tucked up in bed.
 

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