Chinese Accupuncture

[shiseru]

Vix and alison, I came across a number of women with retroverted/retroflexed uterus. I think it is quite common and fortunately Uterine position has no effect on fertility. My friend has it and the doctor suggested doggy style and she got pregnant! Alison, i am glad you are recoveing well!

Briss, you are still in the game until AF comes. Hopefully no af for you.

Blythe, do you usually spot after O? Are you on progesterone cream? I used to spot a few days before af but it stopped after i used progesterone and TCM.

Anyone has feedback on royal jelly? It seems to increase my libido! My TCM has commented previously that my post BBT is low. After a few treatment, I think it is showing improvement. Well looks like I have a fall back rise this cycle.

During yoga session, the teacher teaches these poses, and I am glad to know they all aid in fertility https://www.natural-health-for-fertility.com/yoga-poses.html

Finally! I get to see the doctor this Sat and know about my DH semen results. If it's still fine, we can try IUI. If not then on to IVF but I suspect waiting time to be 2-3 months.

 

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[Blythe]

Vix and alison, I came across a number of women with retroverted/retroflexed uterus. I think it is quite common and fortunately Uterine position has no effect on fertility. My friend has it and the doctor suggested doggy style and she got pregnant! Alison, i am glad you are recoveing well!

Briss, you are still in the game until AF comes. Hopefully no af for you.

Blythe, do you usually spot after O? Are you on progesterone cream? I used to spot a few days before af but it stopped after i used progesterone and TCM.

Anyone has feedback on royal jelly? It seems to increase my libido! My TCM has commented previously that my post BBT is low. After a few treatment, I think it is showing improvement. Well looks like I have a fall back rise this cycle.

During yoga session, the teacher teaches these poses, and I am glad to know they all aid in fertility https://www.natural-health-for-fertility.com/yoga-poses.html

Finally! I get to see the doctor this Sat and know about my DH semen results. If it's still fine, we can try IUI. If not then on to IVF but I suspect waiting time to be 2-3 months.

thanks for the link - will check it out as my body almost feels ready for some exercise and stretching after suffering with my bad back recently.

I've been taking royal jelly in capsule form now replaced with the runny stuff out of a pot mixed with pollen and english honey and it hasn't really had an effect on my libido which is a great shame but i think its a good addition to my daily intake of supplements!

i have had spotting from CD3 in the past although most recently from CD10 ish onwards. I am now armed with some new progesterone cream and will hopefully use it to good effect this cycle.

all the best for the appt on sat and i hope your DH's results are good and enable you to go ahead with IUI or get that surprise BFP!

AFM i caved in and temped this morning and was expecting a nice low temp as i have not yet had a +opk [had two in the house so used them - they had lightish second lines but not +] but i had a big temp rise so not sure what thats about. remember why i wanted to avoid opks and temping as it stresses me out. I will BD tonight and hopefully tomorrow too and that should cover it.

 

[Briss]

AF got me today am depressed it just feel so hopeless, something between my eggs and his sperm just does not work. at least i got 25 day cycle, saturday/sunday was really tough cos I had very prominent cramps and was sure AF was going to come any minute and was grateful for every hour it did not come. Hubby ordered some sports equipment to work and they by mistake delivered a baby crate... it's like the universe is laughing at us he got a crate and I got my period. we sent it back today.

started on my other Chinese herbs today, they are quite different to my previous ones and much nastier. also, I have no idea what's in them but at this point I am so depressed that i do not think i care.

obviously acne got worse last couple of days, I am so happy I found a concealer that really works. I did notice that it's hormone related because it seems to be getting worse around AF and O, which is every 2 weeks. My acne started when I was 31 maybe that's when I reached my peak fertility and things started going downhill from there?

 

[shiseru]

Blythe, you mean you have spotting before you O? I was diagnosed with low progesterone once because i spotted 2-3 days before af. However I am not sure about spotting before O. Accordingly to TCM, they will probably tell you it's due to insufficient blood and 'qi'

Recently I complaint about backache and I was told that I have kidney deficiency, but also could be due to stress or too tired. So get lots of rest and according to TCM, kidney qi plays an essential role in the function of reproduction, growth, and development so herbs for kidneys are always given. Can't your TCM do them in capsules? Mine is in capsules form so it's easy to consume.

I have been told by both TCM and gynae that BD alternative days is more than sufficient. When it comes to TTC, sex feels like a chore! Gotta find someway to spice it up but I can't think of any, any idea ladies? LOL

Briss, i am sorry af got you. But you are right you have a slightly longer cycle. My cycle was 24 days and I think I am going to have a 25-26 days this cycle. To both my TCM (I see one for acu and another for med), cycles that falls below 28 is not ideal. Though I have seen quite a number of women conceiving and carry to terms with no problems and their cycles are all around 24-26 days.

I have acne outbreak too, i think it started few months ago and my back have them too. They were really irritating and I blamed it on hormones but recently I noticed it's caused by certain food, that is PEANUTS! (I love them!) so I stopped and do mask 2x/week and it's improving. Any changes in your diet?

 

[Briss]

I just do not know anymore what's normal, women around me with terrible gynecological conditions get pregnant with no difficulties. as long as you O between CD 10-17 you are fine, I think. 28 was never my normal cycle, I'd get 25-27 day cycles and a few 28-29 a year, once every two years I'd get a 24 day cycle. ever since I had this lap most of my cycles were 24-25 days and acu did not make any difference in this respect. I do not think there is anything wrong in having a 24 day cycle (if that's what you always had) it's a change in cycle length that worries me. there is always a reason for any change.

I eat a lot of chocolate but I always had and it never caused any acne even when I was a teen it's probably hormones

 

[Blythe]

Briss - i saw your message this morning but was not able to reply until now. A massive big virtual to you

This is really tuff isnt it....its like being in a dark tunnel and not even knowing if there is an open exit at the other end....everytime AF comes i have to think about the positives...these are that each month i take my supps my eggs are getting better as is DH's sperm...in turn they will make a much stronger and lasting pregnancy for me.

hang on in there and keep on being strong and amazing! i have no doubt that it WILL happen somehow but it really does take it out of you.

 

[alison29]

Vix and alison, I came across a number of women with retroverted/retroflexed uterus. I think it is quite common and fortunately Uterine position has no effect on fertility. My friend has it and the doctor suggested doggy style and she got pregnant! Alison, i am glad you are recoveing well!

Briss, you are still in the game until AF comes. Hopefully no af for you.

Blythe, do you usually spot after O? Are you on progesterone cream? I used to spot a few days before af but it stopped after i used progesterone and TCM.

Anyone has feedback on royal jelly? It seems to increase my libido! My TCM has commented previously that my post BBT is low. After a few treatment, I think it is showing improvement. Well looks like I have a fall back rise this cycle.

During yoga session, the teacher teaches these poses, and I am glad to know they all aid in fertility https://www.natural-health-for-fertility.com/yoga-poses.html

Finally! I get to see the doctor this Sat and know about my DH semen results. If it's still fine, we can try IUI. If not then on to IVF but I suspect waiting time to be 2-3 months.

That is so funny that you mention the doggie style as i was talking to my friend at work (who just found she was pg 2 nd month clomid) and saying I should do that this cycle which i think may have started today ug woof woof feel like an animal although every once in a while dh like the change of scenery so will do. Too bad i can't drink a bunch of tequila first (makes me naughty)
I can't wait to hear what your dr says. Forward progress so glad we are all making it it's the stagnation that worried me now that i have done something i feel hopeful.

Today is cd 29 not sure if the bleed is from lap or af.

That is great

 

[alison29]

I am sorry Briss. I think eating more fat makes us produce more oil which leads to acne. At least one theory.

About the bedding. My friend at work was taking clomid and her dr told her to bed 14 and 16 . That is all she did and ovulated on day 17. she does temping. She bd at night and laid the rest of the night in bed. She pre inserted preseed and allowed it to warm inside before bedding she didn't want to cold shock the swimmers. IT worked so that gives me peace about not having to bd ALOT.

 

[alison29]

shiseru I hear you with the chore of bedding especially when we don't have much alone time to get foreplay in. Recently (last o time) i added a little oral and since dh is not used to it it got him going. I don't how to get my own libido up just keep my eye on the prize i guess. The rear thing is going to do nothing for me but i eye the prize and it's not necessary for a woman to get there to conceive so what ever.

 

[Briss]

Blythe, thanks! with the breakdowns and upsets that I go through each months for the last couple of years I am so not sure my eggs are getting any better, I have a feeling that things are getting worse actually, I get more grey hair every month… not a good sign. in the meantime I am stuck in the office all hours of the day hating every minute of it (my Easter break is ruined) and all for nothing, just so depressing. you are right it is like being in a dark tunnel. you might Oed on CD12 looking at your temp, weird that you did not get a positive OPK though

Alison, re oral, be careful it's not recommended before BD cos your saliva may damage the sperm

 

[shiseru]

Alison that is funny. I tried doggy a few times but I can't get any orgasm so I prefer the missionary with legs up LOL! Wine or tequila would get me tipsy and I would probably fall asleep before we can BD! People said if you do doggy, the chances of conceiving a boy is higher!

Only thing different is that after I started taking the Royal jelly, it increase my libido during my O days which I welcome it becauseI feel that sex has become a chore since started TTC. (Here's some reading https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=946702&page=1) We don't have foreplay nowadays (boring!) so BD starts as soon as the lights and clothes are off LOL! No oral like what Briss said, I am afraid it harm the little swimmers. But hey I know of people using KY and have oral got pregnant! (boo life's not fair)

The TCM said, do not stress before O otherwise your body won't make a good egg/delay or no ovulation. Do not stress after O otherwise it won't implant. Opps I am never gonna get pregnant like that LOL! After my 2 losses, i didn't really take it easy to be honest. I still watch my O closely, bonk like bunnies days leading up to O, then stressing during the 2ww. But I conceived, so I can't fully agree with some people saying 'hey take it easy, don't stress about it' I think it definitely stressful when it comes to TTC but we need to be a little aggressive, there are something that is within our control such as taking charge of our fertility, eat wisely, take supp especially folic diligently, find something to de-stress be it massage, movie, shopping and most importantly stay optimistic!

Briss, looks like your work is pretty stressful? Do you often work overtime? I used to be really workaholic but try to avoid nowadays. I can't quit since I am the sole breadwinner in my family. Other than my DH and the baby, my parents and brother are staying with me.

You are right, the change in cycle from 28-30 days to 24 days prompted me to see a gynae and get some tests done, and there was when I was told my low AMH 0.2! Our body does tell us something!

Blythe, I agreed with you. It's better late than never knowing at least we can plan the next step and take actions! (supp, acu, IUI, IVF, Yoga to de-stress, etc)

We'll get there ladies!

 

[Briss]

My work is rather stressful, I am usually good at "delegating" (if you know what I mean) because I do not really care about my career (I want to stay in the job cos one income is just not enough and also I am hoping to get my 6 months paid maternity – a lot of money btw) but last couple of weeks it just got a little out of hand. speaking of maternity, a colleague lost her job when I started TTC and I remember she was depressed because of that but since then she found a new job and stayed there for over 2 years to qualify for the new maternity right and is now pregnant (obviously cos everyone is) and I am still there with my maternity rights and AF…

oral and BD – all depends on the quality of your DH's sperm, if he has super sperm even if you kill half of them with oral you will still have plenty to give you a decent chance. with my DH's low sperm count every single sperm is precious so we cant afford the risk, any oral activity only in TWW

 

[Blythe]

Blythe, thanks! with the breakdowns and upsets that I go through each months for the last couple of years I am so not sure my eggs are getting any better, I have a feeling that things are getting worse actually, I get more grey hair every month… not a good sign. in the meantime I am stuck in the office all hours of the day hating every minute of it (my Easter break is ruined) and all for nothing, just so depressing. you are right it is like being in a dark tunnel. you might Oed on CD12 looking at your temp, weird that you did not get a positive OPK though

Alison, re oral, be careful it's not recommended before BD cos your saliva may damage the sperm

Are you working over the weekend? Are you due some annual leave soon?

Im not sure what is happening this month...my temps are a bit weird and suggest i have ovulated but i think i may have ovulated today/late last night based on feelings. Anyhow, either way we are done with BDing this month.

i have been eating so much recently as its been so cold - i am putting on weight everywhere and i feel sluggish and fat....need to take control. Once the weather improves may start a proper juice fast as i cannot continue like this. Losing weight may actually be something i can do!!

 

[Briss]

just got back from work with tonnes to read for tomorrow by 8 am. am so stressed! looks like i might be working this bank holiday finally managed to get through to my FS only to hear that she cant find my hubby's SA results! she suggested i come for an appointment then she will have time to deal with us. well, the nearest appointment is in May I will be taking some time off in june simply because it's the end of our financial year and i can only transfer 10 days the rest will be lost so gotta use it.

you have really steady temps last few days, hopefully it's a good sign! you BD enough i think you are with a chance, fingers crossed!

the only good thing about being so busy is that i did not have any time to cry, i usually do every AF.

I also feel really fat, still back with chocolate cake (third one)... i also want to go back to juicing. my old herbs are so super nasty, i have really hard time forcing them in

 

[alison29]

I never thought about the saliva killing swimmers. Even if they do the deed after and the saliva gets washed off?

That really sucks the LOST your results wth? Seems like they could fit you in quicker. That sucks waiting that long.

So my af is here. Anyone else have really heavy bright red flow after procedure? IT seems much better it's just weird because didn't really remove anything. Maybe just flushing out the tubes cleans out a bunch of congestion when the dye passes through the uterus? I don't know . I have my post op today.
Shiseru that is the problem with alchohol for too sometimes it just makes me lazy. It was weird after the dg style convo me and dh bd last night (yes in the middle of the red sea I was SO not in the mood) dh wanted to do that position without me suggesting it! Then once he saw the view which was very red he decided to switch because well who could be turned on by that but a sicko. sigh

 

[alison29]

oh and briss i have faith that once you guys see a dr you will get the help you need an your bfp hopefully it's just a little something they have to tweak you know?

 

[Blythe]

just got back from work with tonnes to read for tomorrow by 8 am. am so stressed! looks like i might be working this bank holiday finally managed to get through to my FS only to hear that she cant find my hubby's SA results! she suggested i come for an appointment then she will have time to deal with us. well, the nearest appointment is in May I will be taking some time off in june simply because it's the end of our financial year and i can only transfer 10 days the rest will be lost so gotta use it.

you have really steady temps last few days, hopefully it's a good sign! you BD enough i think you are with a chance, fingers crossed!

the only good thing about being so busy is that i did not have any time to cry, i usually do every AF.

I also feel really fat, still back with chocolate cake (third one)... i also want to go back to juicing. my old herbs are so super nasty, i have really hard time forcing them in

there is a section on London fertility specialists today in the ES magazine supplement....nothing that you don't already know but thought i would mention it.

May is not so far away - next week is april so only a cycle and a bit away...thats sounds not to bad on the NHS.

Briss - is there anyway you can cut your hours or commitment to your job without them getting shirty? i only ask because you are working long hours and getting home late....if you cant can you maybe fit in a lunchtime yoga session...you may have to force yourself to relax. Im sure you have considered every option so tell me to sod off as necessary

Juicing will be so much more appealing once this super cold snap has finished.

i have just had the same period pains i get post ovulation - they are really strong nowadays....i just want some unusual stuff to happen so that my hopes are raised. I think i ovulated last night from the feelings i had around that area so the high temps are weird [maybe something to do with the black cohosh] but will just how the next few days goes. I will start using my new prog cream from tomorrow i think.

 

[MalaMae]

So I'm done with acupuncture as of yesterday. Me and DH decided to stop with it- we got bored and tired of running around (6 months), plus no money anymore. Suddenly I feel so much more relaxed.
So not only that I'm giving up on TCM, but also on OPK, saliva monitor etc. I'm letting go of the control. We will continue to ttc (roughly every 3 days after af). When ever I talk to women taht had problems conceiving, ALL of them said relax and don't think about it. It's very hard to give up the control and "not thinking about it", but I need my life back.
I tired of thinking about ttc, have BD when I get +OPK, measure BBT, analyzing temp chart etc. I can't, I'm TIRED it has been almost 3 years. It's funny, the time when Blythe hit the wall, that made me realize that I'm tired and just sick of it. I felt like I have voice in my head that keeps talking to me about ttc, ovulation, implantation, high temp, low temp etc.

I have wonderful husband who supported me in everything I wanted to try in ttc and he still would if I asked from him, but I think he needs a break as well.

This year I'll be relaxing, but next if nothing happens naturally, I may looking into IVF in Macedonia (my country, born and raised there)- it's roughly 2500 Eur (or CAD 3200-3300).

Ladies, I will still follow you, maybe write sometimes (I got hooked on you )

 

[Blythe]

So I'm done with acupuncture as of yesterday. Me and DH decided to stop with it- we got bored and tired of running around (6 months), plus no money anymore. Suddenly I feel so much more relaxed.
So not only that I'm giving up on TCM, but also on OPK, saliva monitor etc. I'm letting go of the control. We will continue to ttc (roughly every 3 days after af). When ever I talk to women taht had problems conceiving, ALL of them said relax and don't think about it. It's very hard to give up the control and "not thinking about it", but I need my life back.
I tired of thinking about ttc, have BD when I get +OPK, measure BBT, analyzing temp chart etc. I can't, I'm TIRED it has been almost 3 years. It's funny, the time when Blythe hit the wall, that made me realize that I'm tired and just sick of it. I felt like I have voice in my head that keeps talking to me about ttc, ovulation, implantation, high temp, low temp etc.

I have wonderful husband who supported me in everything I wanted to try in ttc and he still would if I asked from him, but I think he needs a break as well.

This year I'll be relaxing, but next if nothing happens naturally, I may looking into IVF in Macedonia (my country, born and raised there)- it's roughly 2500 Eur (or CAD 3200-3300).

Ladies, I will still follow you, maybe write sometimes (I got hooked on you )

I think you have done so so well with the acu and herbs and committing to that for 6 months is hard work.....its just bloody exhausting isnt it. I started this month not wanting to temp or opk and found myself doing it mid-cycle. All it has done is stress me out.

I sometimes think the temping/opking etc etc stops us really listening to our bodies....however, what it does do is give us a rough idea of when we ovulate so i think you know by now when that is. Your plan sounds like a really good one.

Yes please do post every now and then - i love to see your posts