Chinese Accupuncture

[Vonn]

People are so insensitive! Let's see in a few months time if that woman is ready to give up, or if, like all of us here, she begins to believe that her bfp is just around the corner.

Re heavy metals. Many of us probably do have increased levels of heavy metals in our systems. I don't know where the Mercury came from. Don't eat a ton of fish. Could be vapors from my amalgam fillings, which have Mercury in them. Some ppl have them removed. Just read about that. I'll have to ask my dr what she thinks.

As for detox, I had already started taking pecta-sol pills as my dr thought maybe this was a problem. Continue with those. She also said in the email to take one tablet of DMSA every other week. We'll see what else she says at the appt. I'm thinking I might want to do a food/drink detox, as well. Flush as much bad crap out of my system as I can.

 

[Blythe]

thank you Briss - this is why this forum is so important to me as i can vent. I do apologise for the blue language but it felt good to type it out!!

my reflexology was not really the real mccoy - she just gave me a vigorous foot massage and i had to point out thyroid, uterus and i had to ask her to do more than just the middle/kidney bit!!

still i felt better for it but i wont be going back for that. I have however made an acu appt but as soon as the receptionist started telling me about a woman who, just last week, found out she was pregnant just prior to IVF, i started regretting my decision to re-engage with these twits.

i am however ploughing through lots on podcasts and am finding some of what i am hearing very inspiring and i am thinking more and more about my body and its ability to heal itself....as well as the C&B stuff there is a woman called Jule Chang LAc with a series called 'Fertility Revolution' with a nice interview with randine lewis which i enjoyed very much today.

 

[Blythe]

Hi Vonn Yes i really did think i would be pregnant within 3/4 months and was full of excitement but the months roll on the darkness gathers. i would love to have extracted myself from this some time ago but the yearning to become pregnant is something too strong and far too emotional isn't it....although apparently not for my DH though who looked quizzically at the single line on pregnancy test earlier and said " i dont know what that means"...i felt like prodding it [the wet end] in his eye.
PS - i dont usually test but i was off to a aerobic class earlier and i wanted to know it was ok to jump around.

i am going to look into heavy metal detoxing....i do still have the old fillings...oh dear! please do report back on what your doc says.

i am really trying very hard to eliminate bad stuff from my diet and i am doing quite well although struggling to knock wine on the head....although im not a lush [anymore!] and only have a 4/5 glasses at the weekend.

 

[alison29]

What an idiot! PMS does make me intolerant to this type of commentary too. Non pms me could think wow your an idiot and then forget about the conversation. PMS me another story.

Briss well done visualizing your baby in your life. I do this too. My problem is getting rid of the not fair feelings about being reproductively challenged I think they counteract the baby daydreams. Just try to stop the thought in it's tracks.

 

[Briss]

alison, My AF turned up last night as expected but as usual I spent most of TWW visualising myself pregnant and having a baby so when it turned up I was really surprised. I should not be really but you do tend to believe against all odds that maybe this time it will be different. I do not know why I find it so easy to visualise my family (up to 3 children!) in TWW, it might be because my body is sure I can get pregnant and it does not recognise we have sperm issue but quite often a few days before AF is due my body already knows nothing happened and then suddenly I become very upset and at times aggressively so.

Blythe, how are you? I can see you started spotting, so sorry it's really annoying but I so want to hope this might be a good sign.

I am still spotting pink at the start of AF so dilipam which I had in august is still working in keeping my cervix open, no brown stuff for months now. I am focusing on eliminating all crap out of my diet and trying to keep my blood sugar levels stable. Working very hard on ignoring my current weight and body shape. It's all about the egg now. Re-reading ZW's book on being healthy for pregnancy and while I do not agree with everything she says most things are very useful and she gives me motivation to quit coffee and sugar. today was my first day without caffeine and so far so good. DH also quit coffee so there is no one to tempt me now.

I need to have my scan on Thursday but might already be ovulating on Saturday so I guess I may need to do the trigger on the same day and book my flights. It's happening so fast all of a sudden… I am very excited but a little scared. I guess I should arrive in Brno the day before egg collection, probably in the evening after work so I wont need to take a day off.

I am considering the option not to have sedation at EC. any form of sedation has a risk so if you can take at least some of it away is great. I think if you are awake it gives you a bit more control as to what's happening and if something does not feels right you can immediately alert them. I am feeling brave to try it.

They also send me prescription for pregnil, the trigger. My Dh managed to buy it in our local pharmacy but it's just powder with no water.

I am also going to try and have a few reflexology sessions or massage, anything to relax me.

I do not think I can bare another story about a woman who TTC for ever and then got pregnant just prior to IVF. it can happen of course and I so want it to happen to us but these stories just do not give me anything positive.

 

[Vonn]

Briss--I think it is so amazing after the tough time you've had that AF can catch you by surprise. It breaks your heart for a couple days (at least for me it does), but the hope and resiliency shown by the visualizing you do--and perhaps more importantly the belief you have in your visions--is the reason you will get your BFP in the end.

And now you are nearly off to have your Czech IVF adventure. Fxed, fxed!! Can't wait to hear all about it.

Alison--I agree that banishing the negative thoughts is as important as thinking positive thoughts. Easier said than done, but keep working on it! Good for you for being that self-aware. Remind me of where you are at in the process/what you are doing. I can't recall.

Blythe--Sorry to see the witch got you. Hope you are doing okay. Keep taking care of yourself, it will pay off. Have you been back to acupuncture yet?

AFM--I had my dr appt. My dr wasn't too concerned with my heavy metal levels. She added a couple detox pills, but otherwise felt like I had already started the detox process by starting pecta-sol awhile back.

I had high levels of a couple things that she was surprised by. My rubidium was high, but it is apparently not very toxic. My copper was also very high. She is going to look more into that. I've been googling and got myself a little freaked out. Of course there are connections between excessive copper and candida (systemic yeast) overgrowth and underactive thyroid--both of which I have.

There's just this wicked web of not-so-great in my body. I hope I am now attacking all of the problems & won't have some additional weird thing come back in a test result that requires more pills or dietary adjustments or awful tasting TCM herbs.

I made an appt right away to go to a new fertility clinic and start that process over in a much more thorough way. Gonna demand an hsg, post-coital cm testing, check for natural killer cells, etc, etc... I've learned so much in the last year! I go in next Tuesday. Can't wait.

 

[alison29]

Good luck with all the testing Vonn. Keep us posted. Nothing much to report here. My dh doesn't want to do fertility treatments again (have had one other pregnancy from iui injections 6 years ago). Had a lap over a year ago and everything looks good to go. So who knows what the real problem is. NO PCOS or anything like that.

 

[alison29]

Where do you think the copper came from? I know old pipes are a cause is this the case for you do you think?

 

[alison29]

Good luck Briss! Fingers and toes crossed. Way to go with the diet! I am still on decaf tea which has some but it's not too bad most days.

 

[Briss]

my cycle has started really badly, got one of those terrible headaches and been vomiting on and off, can't even hold down my painkillers (and I do not usually take painkillers at all but it's been two days!). Could not go to work cos I couldn't even master 2 min walk to the tube station without vomiting I am worried it's something to do with my hormones, maybe even FSH cos it always happens at the start of my cycle.

the good news is I guess I was so poorly that it was not hard at all not to have any coffee for 2 days!!

 

[Vonn]

Where do you think the copper came from? I know old pipes are a cause is this the case for you do you think?

I don't think my dr knew much about excess copper. Just like with all my stupid issues, no one knows what the cause is. Could be pipes. I also read somewhere that birth control pills have copper in them and I was on those things for about 15 yrs. It's probably a combination of things and also a result of my body just not working very efficiently.

 

[Blythe]

Briss - how is the new eating regime going....are you managing to eliminate the bad stuff and get plenty of the stuff that our eggs love?

I wanted to ask how much COQ10 are you taking? are you on the solgar ones?

I cannot believe that you will be flying off soon....if you don't mind i would be interested to know how much you end up paying for flights [and hotel]. I have worked out that a full stim cycle abroad is not an option for us due to work/other commitments at home which make it unviable for us financially but a natural cycle may well be.

i am sorry to see you had such a horrible start to your cycle. do you get that most months or just recently?

glad to see you are reading books about preparing for pregnancy......as you are and you will be. I have been immersing myself in guided fertility meditations and purchased the natural cycle Circle and Bloom recordings....i have to say i am rather enjoying them and her voice is just fine. i listen to them before i go to sleep and find myself drifting off to sleep hoping that it is still working on the subconscious level still.

There is another woman who runs a site called molly nichols who runs mindbellyconnection.com and that is the same sort of stuff. I signed up on site and received 3 free recordings which were quite inspiring in some parts.

My DH is either cycling or drinking and im tired of arguing. i gave him a mini reflexology treatment this week focusing on fertility. the fact that i am prepared to massage a grown mans feet demonstrates the lengths i will go to to become pregnant. i intend doing a mini treatment 2/3 times per week...you never know!!! i will also do my own.....since my novice foot massage last week [it was nothing like a reflexology treatment] my left foot has swollen quite badly on inner ankle and is actually quite painful - i think she has maybe done something bad to a vein. i hope it goes down soon.

i am having an acu treatment tomorrow - with a new doc so we will see. i may start having acu again but wont bother with the herbs. I just dont think the herbs they stock in my place are that great.

i am still starting my day with braggs ACV and lemon juice and later in the day having a shot of powdered greens and MSM.

 

[Briss]

today, I was not very good, had coffee (just one cup, not as strong as as espresso) and a pastry. so much for cutting out the crappy foods that headache ready threw me

I am taking 400 coq10 and 100 ubiqunol, I take nature's best brand and give DH solgar, mainly cos solgar is not black. it's just a way to fool him. for some reason he decided against coq10 and he knows mine are black colour so whenever he sees black pills in his mix he complains and takes them out. Solgar brand is beige so he does not know what they are and does not raise any objections

I get headaches on CD 1-3 from time to time but a few times since last year I had these terrible headaches with vomiting for 1-2 days and nothing helps

I will give that mindbellyconnection thing a try. sounds inspiring.

I am seriously impressed with you giving reflexology treatment to your DH!! I was thinking about it and never really got down to it. I think this is a really good idea. So hope it will pay off. I am also glad you are doing acu again, I really think it helped with your previous IVF

I am off to look for a cheap reflexology place nearby

 

[Blythe]

Your comment re your DH taking out the black tablets made me laugh - men can be so like boys!!

 

[Briss]

I know, so silly!

anyway, I found this tiny Chinese place, they do not speak a word of English but what does it matter. it's relatively cheap about 45 for an hour of reflexology. I was kinda expecting to relax for an hour, how naive was I! the word "pain" does not come anywhere near to describe what I've experienced. I was in agony! it felt like she was crashing my bones and at one point I almost cried I was surprised to discover I still had some feeling in my feet once she was done but I totally understand your swollen feet situation. my right foot is swollen but I do not think it's veins I think it's the bones a bit painful to touch.

 

[Blythe]

Did she do the top of your feet?

 

[Blythe]

Just has a horrid argument with DH (again) where he accused me of talking about TTC every day and he has had enough. He said it's not just me that has to deal with it and it gets to him too. But that's crap because if it was he would not be so cruel and actually talk to me instead of barely nodding.

Anyhow, it has resulted in me indulging in crisps, choc cake ( made by me and a delicious bottle of Sancerre. I have a new favourite past time.... Grey's anatomy. I might be the only person Nit to have watched it.....I'm just about to start series 3!!!!! I love it.

 

[Briss]

not really but the main focus was on the sides of my feet, she was sort of trying to straighten them. she used her knuckles rather than her fingers so it was rather painful but I still enjoyed the experience and my feet felt really light after that

 

[Briss]

Blythe, I am really sorry about your argument with your DH, men just don't get it. My Dh has been involved, I mean really on board with TTC only for about 9 months and he already had enough, he keeps telling me things like "just get pregnant already" I also eat chocolate, even when I am not upset...

p.s. am on 2 series of desperate house wives

 

[Blythe]

i used to love DH....Terry Hatcher is quite irritating. The woman who narrates it, the one who is killed is actually a very well known fertility yoga expert. She also plays Bobby Ewing's wife on the new [and fabulous Dallas!!]

i had acu today with a new doctor and he told me my pulses are weak as is my kidney function....im sure i have heard that before!!!!!!!

still i really really liked him and he gave me a wonderful head massage afterwards. I have booked 6 further appts with him and i am taking Bu Zhong Yi Qi Tang...its powdered but premixed so 15 for a couple of weeks which is a figure i can swallow