Chinese Accupuncture

[Vonn]

Alison--I didn't know you have twins! If you don't mind me asking, how did you get them? Naturally, clomid, IVF?

Nut-milk ladies--If I tried, I'd probably want to make coconut milk. Can you do that? It's not really a nut, like almonds or cashews, but it is what I drink. Coconut is very good for getting rid of candida, which is one of my nemeses (is that plural of nemesis?) right now!

AFM--I am totally over-analyzing my chart. This is just what I do starting around week 2 of the TWW...

Part of me thinks I oved on day 11, prior to even taking the ovidrel shot. The evidence is confusing. I had a good temp jump but no high or peak on the fertility monitor. That morning when I went in for my second scan the dr asked if I had already oved. I said I didn't think so, why? She said the follicle looked like it had a little tear in it, which could mean just oved or was getting ready to.

So I've been a little unsure all along. It's no big deal either way, but it's the kind of thing you constantly think about, ya know? And this morning I had a big temp drop, making me think implantation. But I know that ovidrel messes with temps, so I am trying to keep that in mind. Maybe I shouldn't even be temping this month, if it's not necessarily accurate anyway. It just feeds my crazy over-analyzing nature!

RE: BD schedule. I think my dr told us to BD Thur, Fri, Sat. We didn't quite do that--3 days in a row just feels impossible--but we did get two well-timed BDs in, so I feel good about that. If this month isn't a BFP, I want clomid/femara, ov trigger, and IUI next month. I'm done messing around. And, I'll probably add maya abdominal massage into the mix, too.

Sorry for the long post, just felt the need to rant/overshare what I am thinking about but would drive my DH bonkers about if I told him all this!

 

[alison29]

Vonn the temp drop sounds so promising! Femara is so much better than clomid it doesn't make you crazy or dry up cm.

I got my twins through Follistim injections and IUI at a FS. They also did a lap and found one or two endo lesions. I had done clomid and femara cycles nonmonitered at an OB first. I had another lap with a reg OB almost two years ago and he found no endo. So i don't know what my problem really is now. Although it must be a hormone issue I guess. I have problems with spots and scalp issues which could be high androgen levels. I am pretty sure i ovulate every month so not PCOS but maybe the eggs aren't right because of testosterone IDK. Maybe i should try some femara again.

 

[Briss]

Vonn, how is it going? any symptoms?

I think you can milk any nuts. I've just done my almond milk and it's truly easy to make and tastes delicious, very rich and creamy texture. although I am not sure i am ready to exchange my whole milk for it yet, will take some getting used to but I am definitely going to include nut milk into my diet.

the nylon bag worked beautifully so easy to use and wash.

 

[Vonn]

Glad the nut milk worked! Blythe, have you tried it yet?

I am now either at the very end of 9DPO or 11DPO. Either way, it's the longest I've gone without spotting, so that's very encouraging! I hope it's because I'm pregnant, but I'm not convinced yet. Not any unusual symptoms yet. Just some zits and sore bbs, par for the course. I'm trying to be hopeful, but not get hopes up too far. I think we all battle this feeling.

 

[nobump]

Good luck Vonn.

Girls I use almond milk in my cereal. But shop bought. Stopped using cows milk a few years ago. Had been using soya but heard that wasn't good for TTC or fibroids so stopped.

Think my hormones are all over the place. Cried myself to sleep other night. Think it is the time of year. In TWW but as usual we BD more outside of fertile days than during them. Life just happens. BD to order doesn't work. But have noticed more CM since being on the Chinese herbs. Did anyone else have that?

Xxx

 

[Vonn]

No Bump--I've found that TTC has made me more emotional. I've started crying in public more than once in the past several months after seeing a cute mom and child. I really feel like I am losing it sometimes.

I haven't noticed much of an increase in CM since taking Chinese herbs, but I wish I had more EWCM. Good for you, that is if you want more!

 

[Vonn]

Briss--are you doing ivc this momth?

Blythe--do you have a plan plan figured out for ivc?

I got my period today. Only one day of spotting, but only an 11 day luteal phase. Once again feel defective, but on the bright side, we get another chance starting right now! That is pretty amazing.

 

[Briss]

Vonn so sorry about your AF. Is this full on or just spotting? Could this be implantation? have you tested?

 

[alison29]

Sorry too Vonn..

 

[Vonn]

Thanks ladies. It's definitely AF.

Briss--it looks like you are about to ovulate. GL!

 

[nobump]

Vonn sorry to hear AF has appeared... my counselor suggested that I go on the pill for a few months to enable me to take a break from the monthly disappointment... but don't want to stop NTNP while we decide the next move.

Increase in CM is good for me, means I can stop with having to use lube. Have tried several that were supposed to help with the swimmers, but they haven't appeared to have done any good, but if I am producing enough on my own now, that is good.

 

[Vonn]

nobump--I agree about what a bummer it is to have to mess around with lube. My cm dried up when my thyroid got bad (although I didn't realize that was what was happening) and I had a lot of pain during BD. That didn't help things. Anyway, so glad your has increased!

It's been quiet on here lately, hope everyone is doing okay.

 

[Blythe]

Vonn - i am so sorry that AF arrived. Keep focused on your goals and know that each day brings you closer to your BFP.

Briss - did they manage to catch the egg this cycle? I hope so very much they did and that you have some good news. Thinking of you

NoBump - i have sometimes though about going on the pill. it does give you that break and actually for some women it has kick started their fertility potential although of course the pill can bugger it up for others. Its quite difficult to NTNP because i just go a bit crazy and obsessed around ovulation and fret about timings etc....would love to no longer care.

AFM - i have been ill with a horrible chest infection so have been off work and just depressed in bed. I always hate calling in sick at work because i feel so guilty even though i felt truly awful....so silly.

I have just started working through some recipies in my new book by this lady and i am really trying to embrace a new way of eating https://ohsheglows.com/

This weekend i will try almond milk!!! encouraged by your comments Briss

 

[Briss]

Just a quick update, i am in Brno and PUPO!!!! This week was quite stressful, as I had my second scan on tuesday and there was only one dominant follicle next to my cyst and the doc thought it was just fluid filled cyst not the actual follicle on top of that my LH surged hours before i was due to do the trigger shot so she said it was not an optimal cycle but I still wanted to try. by the time she got the massage about my LH surge I already booked out flights so she said it's Ok but it was probable that we will lose the egg to early ovulation. I went to Brno with very little hope.

EC was so easy, although they did put me under sedation (I did not mind actually) and to my surprise we got the egg!! I was taking my beloved indometacin from the trigger to morning of EC and the doc agreed to get me to the theatre by 8 am to increase our chances. the follicle was sill there and so was the egg I had no pain, no blood anywhere not even a tiny drop of spotting. I am seriously impressed with Dh Hana.

the next stressful point was waiting to hear if the egg was mature and suitable for ICSI and it was. but later that day we got some bad news that my DH's sperm sample was not suitable for PICSI, while motility was high at 65%, the progressive motility was only 25% and also his morphology was 0.5% - poor. but they proceeded with ICSI and I literally burst into tears when I got an email from the doc the next morning saying it fertilised it was such an emotional moment - finally after over a year and second time in our IVF history we got through to the next stage past fertilisation. It might be just a coincidence of course but I believe not having stims was the main factor in my egg quality and fertilisation.

I had a day 2 transfer but was panicking when the doc invited me into her office rather than the surgery room. I was expecting news on cell division and luckily my beautiful embryo divided properly into 4 cells with no fragmentation. The procedure was very easy, and I am grateful they do not make you come with full bladder so I was totally relaxed all the time listening to music. They let me stay on the table for 15 min after the transfer and here I am - so PUPO I know the success rates are still not that great but this is the second time in 4 years I know we have a real chance.

Blythe, I made that kale salad from the website you recommended but i must have done something wrong with tahini cos it was rather bad and I could not even finish it even though it had my favourite pomegranate

 

[Blythe]

Wonderful briss. I'm On a train so can't message properly but just wanted to say how happy I am to see your post

 

[Briss]

Blythe, I've been catching up with posts, so sorry to hear you were unwell. Are you better now?

 

[Wish4another1]

Briss- I am so happy for you!!!! PUPO after so much stress and heartache!!!! Keeping my FX a 2014 !!!!

 

[terripeachy]

Congrats for being PUPO Briss. You've waited a long time for this and I am looking forward to hearing your results!

 

[nobump]

Congrats Briss. FX for you!

 

[Vonn]

Blythe--so sorry to hear you've been sick. This time of year can be stressful enough, so be sick on top of it is really crummy! I hope you are finally feeling better.

Briss--YAY!! I am so happy to hear you were able to go through the process even though some of the circumstances weren't ideal. You are tough and persistent so I know ONE of these times that little bean will snuggle right in and stay put. I hope this is it!!