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[Euronova]

Oh dear, the terrier seems a bit fed up! The growling is great as it's a warning sign. Don't tell him off as the worse would be for him to stop warning and go straight to biting but you can teach him to move away. If you see Ben (am I getting the babies names mixed up?) pull his fur, gently make the baby let go and encourage (not telling him off) the dog to move away and reward when he does. If the baby follows the dog try to redirect the his attention on a more appropriate game.
Never trust even the kindest of dog alone with a child and always be double careful when food or toys are around.
My girls are adorable but I know will have to learn to be less boisterous. Nova the mum can guard her toys and chews.
A great way to make the dogs like the baby is if u make the baby(or pretend) that the baby gives them all the good things. New toys, treats etc
All the dogs tend to worry about is about the baby taking their stuff (afterall he took all your attention already!)
Walking with dogs and pram is a great bonding exercise!
Did those of u with cats used cat nets? My cat loves sleeping on our chest, I am worried she would sleep on the baby ( this said she is no climber so I doubt she would climb a cot) and would keep the door closed (well if I can!)

 

[babyloulou]

V- thanks for the tips but honestly you can't get the terrier to do anything! He wouldn't move away with encouragement. He's not interested in treats, toys, praise etc...

When we got him 4 and a half years ago he was an absolute nervous wreck and an emotional mess. He'd been severely mistreated ( had old cigarette burns, bruises etc..) - all he did for the first year was run away and spend every night out on the streets and come back in the mornings!! he stopped that eventually and now would never run away at all- even goes off lead etc..
(well did until he bit a postman a couple of weeks ago)

He doesn't know any training at all- not even "sit" and gets terribly distressed if you try to encourage him to do something. He has never been for a poo on the garden as he is petrified of it- he has to be taken out on the lead for every poo (which is 6 a day minimum as he has doggy IBS!)

His teeth chatter constantly which the vet says is either a sign he's had a mini stroke at some point or that he is at the start of an Alzheimer's- type disease!

He really is mad! He bit our postman a few weeks ago- he's been the postman for years and has always given the dogs a biscuit every morning. Well this particular morning Ruudi took the biscuit off him wagging his tail- ate it- THEN turned round and bit him!! Broke the skin and everything! He'd never bit anyone before since we've had him!

We're just trying to keep Ben away from him! We'd never tell him off as he's just too fragile- if we ever raised our voices to him I think he'd break into a million pieces!! (when we first got him he used to wet himself at people shouting on the TV! )

 

[Euronova]

Awww poor dog, sounds like he had a terrible start! Good on ou for taking him on and getting him that far.
It's hard when you have an unpredictable dog but it sounds like you know him well and you are aware of what he can do.
How did the postman react? You are lucky they have not asked you to put the dog to sleep

 

[babyloulou]

I know- we were so lucky. The postman was fine- he's known the dogs for years! He just said he shouldn't have stood so close and he still gives them biscuits- but he tends to lob them from a distance now!!!

 

[lisaf]

Vero - regarding cats.... mine do cuddle sometimes but they aren't the kind to always always be in your face. I set up the nursery ahead of time and caught one cat curled up in the crib once and curled up on the changing table another time. We shooed her away each time. Once the baby came, she wanted nothing to do with anything that had to do with the baby. Tin foil in the crib can train them to stay out of it (we have a cat that loves crinkly stuff though so we didn't try that).. double sided sticky tape can discourage them too. We have one of those nets but have not had to use it. Zipping it when the baby is in there would totally wake him up

 

[lisaf]

wow.. super quiet today!
I just had the local LC come and pick up more of my milk since it is starting to get old. She told me that I have basically saved a baby's life because he couldn't tolerate any formulas and was starving... making me cry. I feel so happy that my milk went to such a good cause.

So I am typically not very sentimental or mushy. But occasionally something just hits me really hard. One of the most recent ones was when I made a recipe I hadn't had since childhood and the smell brought back such strong memories that I cried. Well this weekend we played the Peter, Paul, & Mary kid's album in the car... tears started pouring down my face... it was the nostalgia of remembering these songs and how much I loved them, then also hearing them from the perspective as a parent. I couldn't help it. Craziness.. if we were actually having sex I would have taken a pregnancy test, lol.

 

[Peach Blossom]

Hi ladies, I'm back! Long flight and arrived at 4.30 this morning! Struggling to get through the day! And Lili has slept most of the day, which doesn't bode well for tonight!! Should I wake her up?! They say never wake a sleeping baby!!

Lisa Sounds like you might be in denial about your sentimental mushy side! xx

 

[lisaf]

depends on the kid Jess! If it were Ben, I'd say let him sleep
I know that I will wake Daniel up to keep him close to the schedule we have. I don't care when he naps during the day, but I need him to be ready to go down at bedtime, so I try to make sure he's only awake for a couple hours before then... Not too long, but not too short either.

 

[Euronova]

Hey do you girls think Laura is having the baby???
We told our parents today! I was having nightmares about it so OH said as we were going to tell them before the 12 weeks scan anyway it didn't matter how soon we told them!
My mum was so so happy and his mum had guessed cause Oliver is such a bad liar lol

 

[lisaf]

aw. lol yay! We told our parents at the 6 week mark. My MIL was PISSED and sulked that we wouldn't let her tell anyone outside the family.

ooh, I was thinking the same thing.. I bet Laura is having the baby!

 

[babyloulou]

Aww glad they were happy V!

I've just text Laura and it's still the same. Irregular contractions, she's in agony- but no baby or full labour yet! I feel sorry for her! Back-to-back labour was the worst experience of my life- I can almost feel the pain in my back again just thinking about her!!

 

[lisaf]

poor Laura!!

I'm so bummed/upset. We had our 6 month checkup scheduled for this Friday. Its a holiday so I already have the day off work. Well my doctor cancelled with a family emergency. It must be a big one because they can't schedule new appointments for him so they don't know when he'll be back. I can either go on a waiting list for appointments when he's back or I can schedule with someone else.
I don't want him to miss his 6 month shots since we will be visiting family all over the state at the end of November, so I'm going to have to take a day off of work. I'm also going to have to see a doctor that I have never met and have no trust in

We were going to discuss the hairy patch on his butt and the worries with that and a few other things. I don't know if thats something I want someone else helping us with since it will be an ongoing thing to watch if it is a worry

I kind of just want to throw a little hissy fit and cry.

 

[Euronova]

Lisa, that is such a pain, I am sure the new doctor will have all the notes and will be able to pick up where you left, you might be surprised and like it even more than the other one. But i know what you mean, I would hate it... i don't like change!
Poor Laura... can she not be induced or given something? sounds horrible... I hate it when I hear that labour is lasting so long... It always worries me!
Yes I think Oliver's mum is upset she can't tell people but my parent were really happy to keep it a secret. I think it will be a shock when my mum tells my dad tonight... I a the baby girl of the family! (7 years younger than my brothers and sister)

 

[babyloulou]

That's normal here Lisa! We have to see different doctors everytime we go! You just see whoever is available here! Some nice and some are wankers! And babies shots are just done by random nurses- no choice in the matter here!!

 

[babyloulou]

Don't ever ask about my labour V!! It's not a pretty story!! Ask Casey instead- hers was a good one!! Or Jess!!! But NOT me or Suz!!!

 

[Euronova]

well all my friends had terrible (I mean really horrible) stories! Only one friend had a good birth but they asked her husband to milk her to induce the contractions!! (messy and weird she said!) So I am well aware!!! I just hope I can have it as French as I want! I know inducing can be even more painful but they tend to induce you in France once you reach term as they don't want to let the baby outgrow you... I had at least 2 friends that ended up with huge babies that were 2 weeks overdue... they would not fit and after nearly 24h of labour they pushed the babies back in and had to opened them up! (one of them could not even show pictures from the hospital... the baby was hairy because it was so overdue, grey from lack of oxygen, had bruises from the forceps... plus she was a real mess herself!)
I find it strange that they let women go over by so much here... and all of my friends who did get so late, they ended up having C section and really there should not be that many C sections! In France they also let you have an 8 months scan so they can measure the baby and your pelvic bones and if they see it might not fit, they even induce you a bit early, or definitely won't let you go over you DD.
Yes same at the GP here... you see whoever and yes shots and etc are done by the nurses... actually i think I will book my flu shot soon at the GP (no point going private for that!)

 

[babyloulou]

Ben was 14 days overdue V and was 9lb 3.5oz and got VERY stuck! I didn't have a c-section though.

They won't induce you before 40+12 in most areas I'm afraid- not unless there are medical reasons.

 

[lisaf]

We actually almost didn't get the doctor we chose because he is so popular/booked. We only got 'in' because DH's ex-step-dad knows the guy. We see whoever is available for emergency visits, but the regular well-baby visits are supposed to be with your regular doctor, especially in case there are any conditions that need monitoring. I'll get over it, I'm just sad I love our pediatrician.. .he fist-bumps me when I tell him I'm still BFing We have random nurses do the shots too... its partly to save the doctor's time, but also so they don't end up hating the doctor, just the random nurse, lol!

Vero - inducing actually increases the chance of needing a c-section. Conception isn't that easy to pin down perfectly (those of us on clomid know pretty accurately though, lol) and some women may not be as far along as they think. I had a 9lb 15oz baby vaginally with only a minor tear, only 1 hour of pushing. Sometimes it is how a woman labors/positions for delivery that can cause a baby to get stuck, not the size of the baby. I was advised to have a c-section because of his size, but I had no trouble at all delivering him.
The expert who did my ultrasound and gave me that advice told me that there is no reliable way to predict if a baby will fit or not, that measuring the pubic bone does not accurately predict if the baby will fit. There is a lot to do with the angle the baby comes down, if the baby is back-to-back or not etc. Also, things loosen up and spread during delivery.

Delivering a baby before they are ready has some risks for the baby too. Its a tough call to make honestly. I chose to ignore the advice I was given because my mom had big babies too and I was more afraid of a c-section than tearing/getting stuck. And with the breathing issue Daniel had when he was born, it could have been a LOT worse if he had been delivered by c-section because the birth canal helps squeeze out some of the fluid.

 

[lisaf]

having said all that, they do induce here by the due date if requested usually and start to push you to induce when you are a week late.
We also have higher c-section rates though, lol.

Daniel was 1 week late.

 

[babyloulou]

V- yes Lisa is right- there are a lot more complications/c-sections with induced babies! Another girl on here Ellen had a big baby too and an easy birth. Like Lisa says it's other factors rather than size that are the main issue.

Ben was back-to-back, had his head twisted, the cord round his neck and a broken collarbone- those were the reasons he wouldn't move down- not his size x