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Jess I'm so jealous of your massage! You deserve it though :hugs:

Did you see Joe when he picked lili up? Have you told him you're agreeing to counselling?

Sorry Ben was terrible again lou :(

I feel so blurgh! My mum told me because my hormones were still all over the place I'd feel fine.... She tricked me! Just had a long nap with Sammuel, although I had to get up to answer the door and couldn't get back to sleep for ages :(

Sammuel has a much longer nap if I sleep with him...

X x x
 
Suz, I did see him and I was a mess. I emailed him to say that I would agree to counselling, but he hasn't responded! What a surprise...

Sorry you're feeling bleurgh.. :hugs: Ginger! Ginger will help! xx
 
Jess- the massage will be lovely, you well deserve it! Sorry he is not responding... I wonder if he still sees her... maybe would be worth getting a private detective? mind you I have some spare time in the new year if you want :haha:
If you can prove whether he is making efforts and cutting ties with her for real, you'd know where you stand a bit more.

Suz- sorry you feel bad :( I felt good enough to have a chocolate biscuit yesterday (it tasted funny... not like it used to!) but then it made me feel ten times worse!!!

OH got MIL's cold (she avoided kissing her old friend but then said hi to me... despite advising me not to get the flu jab and just to stay away from sick people)... so now I have a sick man in the house.. he did not go to work this morning (he feels a bit low... not even blown his nose or coughed once but clearly dying!)... so we had a nice lie in...
I just hope i don't get it as I am sluggish and tired enough without it!

Suz- any news from your appt?

Sorry Ben had a bad night.... have you tried the new technique yet?
 
No not yet V! I'm putting it off- I really wanted to avoid any form if sleep training but I think we're going to have to! :-(
 
:hugs: Jess :( he seriously needs to pull his finger out. I think at counselling you need to be super tough!

V I hope you don't get it!  nope appt is Tuesday I'm afraid!!

Jess I hate ginger :sick: and I didnt really find it helped!

Did I tell you guys my friend is preggers? I lent her stuff... I think I did say, anyway she's ahead of me, 13 weeks, but it will be nice to have a RL bump buddy!

X x x
 
Hi girls! Happy thanksgiving!

Suz cool to have a bump buddy! It's fun blabbing about pregnancy! Is it her first?

Jess I am getting a massage too! Friday. I like it when they use a lot of pressure almost where it hurts. You? I can't wait. So glad u r going!

Lou sorry about Bens sleep!

V hope u don't get oh's cold!

The benefits of pumping from early days is that if your baby is not latching you will be able to build a strong supply to feed him bottle until he does latch . With Jess and me, ours were jaundice and barely opened their eyes to wake up forever at first and wouldn't nurse. So I guess on the other side of what suz said, oversupply is good if you plan to mostly bottle feed or if you are forced to. Xxoo
 
Yeh I think the pumping thing will depend on the circumstances. Hope I don't have any problems BF this one, I'd be devastated!!

Yeh it's her 1st, she was ttc for about 18 months...

I like a decent strong massage too... I wish I had money I'd get one every week!!!

X x x
 
I like a moderate pressure with massages.

Joe's just text to say that although he had agreed to come over tonight and talk he no longer wants to. He said that he needed to time to think about my last couple of emails and that he would respond. Then, if I want to talk to him I can on Friday... I feel sick...
 
That's ok isn't it? For him to need a day to think? If that's true.
 
For fucks sake. He is an utter c**t. Seriously is he actually getting off on treating you like this? I think you've got to get tough with him. Say that's not acceptable, he has had enough time to think. you are not hanging around waiting for him, and agreeing to every ridiculous request.

In my opinion honestly he is doing this to be nasty. What other explanation is there?

I'm sorry :hugs:
 
Casey I don't think he needs time, he's just proving he's in control...

X x x
 
He's had days and days to think Case.. and he said "if" I still want to talk afterwards... That one word says it all...
 
what an utter arsehole! What the hell is wrong with him... once more all on his term... does he even think about what it is doing to you? Has he even forgotten what he has done to you? I bet if you cheated, he would not even give you another look... yet when it's HIM (oh so precious him!) then.... he needs time to think... he needs this... he needs counselling.... what about what you and Lili need? definitely not being messed around!!!!

pfffff.... and breathe....
 
Ugh! Fucker! Done. Be done with him. Who has time for his stupid immature bullshit.
 
Jess honestly do you think you can sort this out? I just don't think he wants to at all. He seems to say something, make you make a hard decision, then change his mind just for the sake of it. :(

X x x
 
Jess- it really sounds like he's seeing her :-( Men don't tend to leave and switch off like this unless they've got someone else in my opinion! :-(
 
I actually think be done with him. I want you to be happy. He is too selfish to make you happy, he only cares about his own happiness.

I am actually excited for you to meet someone new down the line, who actually appreciates you. :hugs:

X x x
 
Lou I'm not sure I agree. We never disagree :lol: he could well be seeing her, but some men are just totally self centred, and genuinely think EVERYTHING is about them. And some are just plain mental and like to mess with people's emotions, just because they can.

I think Joe is just selfish for the most part...

X x x
 
Totally agree with Lou and Suz, I think he stilll sees her and has no intention of stopping (he would have accepted your ultimatum otherwise and be more understanding)
I also think you deserve someone so much nicer and caring.
You are a real looker and you have the cutest little girl, I am sure you will find someone wonderful that will make all of this the best thing that happened to you...
I doubt you will ever be fully happy with Joe.... not after all that... not with his attitude...
 
But it's the messing with her emotions bit that makes me think he is. I agree with you that some men get off on it- but has Joe always been like that Jess? Does he like to play games and be in control? If so then Suz is probably right- if not then I think there's likely to be a "female distraction" that's making him switch off to you and your feelings :-(

As scary as it sounds I'm not sure I've ever heard of a man leaving his wife where it didn't end up that he was sleeping with someone else :shrug:
 

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