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They charge loads for separate vaccines here only some places do it free...

V re the epidural, I think obviously if you can go without one then that's great, use your breathing and be prepared... But read up on the effects (I don't honestly know what they are) so you have the information if you decide to get an epi. I had some sort of injection and in hindsight it could have been what slowed Sammuels heart rate to a virtual stop - someone told me recently that it makes it much more likely that the baby will stop breathing. Had I known that I wouldn't have done it. But I just went with it because I was off my face

I think if my labour wasn't back labour, I might have been ok...

X x x

 

[babyloulou]

Same here! My first 18 hours were fine- right up to 10cm! If he hadn't been back to back I'd have been fine!

 

[Euronova]

I don't really want to read more about anything... It seems nothing is ever black or white... Everyone has their theory and it's all a bit too much for me today.

Just feeling so emotional today it's ridiculous. Hopefully tomorrow will be better.

Thinking of going to a friend's house tonight but was telling OH: if she is not depressed, she will definitely be when I leave!
Plus she is very opinionated on child birth and all so not sure it's the best day for that x

 

[SBB]

I didn't mean today you've got ages to cover this stuff so chill for the evening and tell your friend you don't want to talk about it.

X x x

 

[Euronova]

Sorry didn't mean to sound snappy... I am just in such a weird emotional state today and I guess it's not going to help that OH is going out with a mate for a couple of beers...
Not heard back from my friend so I think it will be tv dinner with the dogs tonight.

I seem to be getting more and more hormonal as the pregnancy goes... What a mess!

 

[SBB]

It's ok you're allowed to be hormonal! just eat some nice food and go to bed early and forget about it all

X x x

 

[lisaf]

whew, had a lot to catch up on.

I am a strong believe in vaccines since my sister died from a pneumoccocal infection that they now vaccinate against most varieties of. And I do agree about the herd immunity thing. I'm way more scared of the disease than the vaccine. The only issue I have is with people who base their decision on false information or don't bother to research before making their choice.
The tetanus vaccine (at least here) is combined with pertussis (whooping cough) so that is an important one to have done early... that might be part of why they get that done so fast?

The ultrasound thing - the study with the left-handed bias was only in boys and was not able to be duplicated from what I read I think? There is no radiation in ultrasounds, but there is heat focused on the source... and of course fevers and overheating in pregnancy can affect the baby. Also babies often move to avoid the ultrasound... so all reasons point to there being possible effects, but nothing proven. They still recommend ultrasounds when there is a medical need for one, but discourage 'recreational' ones since the intensity may be turned up to get clearer pictures and the amount of time spent on one might be longer than a medical professional would feel comfortable with.
Anyway, thats what I read up on it and concluded. I still had a ton of ultrasounds and even had 1 recreational with Daniel to confirm his sex.
And both my parents are lefties and there were no ultrasounds when they were in utero

V- don't worry about the hormones, they come in waves.. you won't get progressively worse and worse each day, you'll just have good days and bad days

As for the epidural... yes they say that the nurses can tell whose baby was born with an epidural vs. those born without any drugs at all... but its not a big risk at all.
There is another drug that doesn't cause issues for the baby in utero but if you deliver within an hour or so of having it, there can be some respiratory issues for the baby... but then all our drugs are different from yours in that respect.
You have lots of time to think this stuff through... I'm betting you could possibly offer trade to the doula... maybe some professional photography in exchange for free or discounted services?

And Lou - I finally found something that keeps Daniel's hands busy during nursing instead of grabbing everything. I tried a nursing necklace before and he was interested for about 2 seconds... but this new one I got is just way more interesting to him.
https://hyenacart.com/workslikeacharm/mt/3619/81910/Nursing-necklace-Sodalite
He likes to hold the wooden hoop, twist the string so the charms dangle together, etc... its way more interesting than the one that is just the center stone part. Maybe try something like that? And only let him have it while nursing? A lovie or something? What happens if you cover your breast with your shirt while he's nursing, does he freak out?

 

[Peach Blossom]

V, with Lili I had a scan every two weeks because of the high risk nature of my pregnancy. I was assured that there was no danger to the baby doing it do often. My parents are doctors too. For every paper proving something there is another to disprove it. It just depends on which piece of research they believe better.

Lou, with regards to the separate jabs, I think you'll find they missed some words in the leaflet and that is avoid the risk of multiple reactions. It's gentler to introduce each vaccine individually. I think, however, you won't find any NHS doctor who will offer them individually now as they are trying to move away from the hysteria that was created.

 

[Euronova]

i am not actually worried about the scans, actually i still want a DVD from my next one and i want an additional one at 34 weeks.
I am not either that worried about the epidural.... i think i am getting frustrated with getting contradictory information, I just wish things where simpler, i just wish I had a firm opinion on everything and i would know for sure i have the correct information... but that is just because i have just had one of those "overwhelmed at everything" day!

how is everyone? are the babies all asleep

 

[lisaf]

not here, lol.. its only 6pm.. Daniel is throwing a FIT because I had to pull his hands away from the keyboard to type.. full on tears streaming down the face.. oh boy...

 

[SBB]

Yeh Sammuel loves to click my mouse -makes it hard to get any work done!

I don't/didn't worry about the scan thing. To be honest it seems EVERYTHING causes brain damage or cancer now. Yet we're all living much longer...

X x x

 

[Euronova]

Hi Girls,

How is everyone? Thanks for putting up with me yesterday.... god I was in a vile mood!!
Feeling better today.
I was very very crampy yesterday and i wondered if it was due to all the stretching and pelvic floor exercises at the yoga. This morning my uterus has definitely shifted up, when actually I was getting a bit worried that it was still low and i still needed the loo several times a night!
It's very strange... I wonder if it is all due to the yoga, and if it could have made my mood so horrible yesterday???
Only woke up once for the loo so feeling a lot more rested

Also had to change my belly piercing as my belly button is definitely getting more and more shallow

In 2 days I am half way!!! (Actually it feels like I tested ages ago!!! i hope the second half goes quicker!)

I think we are definitely finding the sex at the next scan I feel guilty for giving in and being so rubbish at remaining team yellow but I really feel like I need another boost, this is definitely the boring bit of the pregnancy!

 

[Peach Blossom]

V, I know I'm a hippy dippy, but I was advised to remove my navel stud whilst I was pregnant because it interrupts the energy flow... It might help your mood!

It's only taken 13 months but Lili has finally been discharged from hospital!! YAY! There is officially nothing wrong with her apart from her "symmetrical smallness"!!

Off to take her for her MMR in an hour... Hoping it's not too much of a tragedy!! Going to have some chocolate buttons at the ready!

 

[Euronova]

"Symmetrical smallness" lol sounds just like my puppy girl Her mum is 18kg... she is not getting bigger than a 5 months old pup... she is still 11kg but perfectly symmetrical and SO SO cute!
Best things comes in small packages she will be a superstar most likely (the new Kylie or something!)

I have a plastic one now, i don't think plastic can changed energy like titanium would? (trying to talk hippy dippy.... but no idea what I am saying!!)

Good luck with the MMR, try and surprise her when she is having it, she might not even feel it!

 

[Peach Blossom]

Haha, love your hippy dippy talk! I think you'll be ok with plastic... I can't remember now... I've got my stud back in now. It looked really weird without it!!

 

[TySonNMe]

Hey girls. So when does a child have a hand preference. I know they are ambidextrous but at what point are you definitely left- or right-handed?

 

[babyloulou]

Hi everyone

V- glad you're feeling better

Jess- that's great news about Lili Little Legs

Is anybody else getting tantrums at any point? Ben is driving me mad in the car! He's been whingy on car journeys for months but this last week has been horrendous! Yesterday he screamed for a 30 minute journey non-stop. I thought that was bad enough but today he has surpassed it!! I've come to Mothercare with him to pick up a few bits and we got stuck in traffic- he screamed for 40 minutes without stopping once. He was hoarse and heaving, nearly being sick. He eventually conked out and screamed himself to sleep! We are basically doing CIO on every car journey! :-/

He doesn't tantrum at any other time yet. Any one else? I'm sat in Mothercare car park now with a splitting headache and could scream myself!!! He's been asleep for 20 minutes and is still sniffling/gasping in his sleep from the crying!!

 

[Euronova]

Lou - sounds horrible... no idea.... only had experience of screaming pups in the car, and that passed... maybe if you do some smaller journeys and give him his favourite finger food or something so he starts making a positive association??? (no idea)

You are actually born left or right handed (one of your eye is the directing eye... i.e. I am left handed... my left eye is my directing eye, the right eye follows it... you would not see it, but an doctor can determine which eye is directing)
Now a lot of people with a left eye directing have been taught to write or hit the ball with their right hand or foot so think they are right handed
Not sure I am making sense lol

When i kept using my left hand more, my parents had my directing eye determined and they then realised i was a real lefty so they left me to it

 

[babyloulou]

V- I can't give him food in his car seat- he's not sat upright enough for it to be safe. he's got lots of toys and a dummy in there but seems to want to scream instead!!!

 

[SBB]

Lou I can't stand screaming in the car it's so hard to drive Sammuel has had a couple of tantrums but just when he's tired really. I really don't know what to suggest..

Jess that's great lili has FINALLY been discharged!

We have got a letter about 13 month checkup and it's a group thing?!

V glad you're feeling better now.

X x x