December 2012 buns

[sadie]

Alvababy site states they dont ship to italy....

 

[sadie]

Wow! Thank you! Lots of info, but now it makes a lot more sense!! But now how to order.... Maybe ship them to my mom in NY and have her fedex them to me....
Edit.. I emailed them and they said that they do ship.... We'll see!

 

[Coconuts]

I thought they did. You scared me there for a while though. I just fired off an email to them asking if they ship to Italy too (and how long it takes). Bloomin well hope so after all of this.

Glad it's making more sense to you know.

 

[artsiekat]

Sadie, here's an email that explains a lot more about different diapers. There are tons of stuff out there, some people definitely don't save money going cloth because they want to keep buying diapers!(It is addicting)

https://www.diaperpin.com/clothdiapers/article_differentsystems.asp

I do use mainly a flat/prefold system and love it, hubby doesn't find it difficult at all either. When I want a trimmer fit, I use inserts and covers. I never was a fan of pockets, mainly because you have to change the entire diaper everytime you use it, but I might go for it when baby is older and pottying much less. In that case, I'd probably spring for the alvas, too.(Can't beat that price!)

I also really liked seeing this breakdown when I first started:

https://www.diaperdecisions.com/pages/cost_of_cloth_diapers.php

 

[sadie]

Thanks again artsie! I will have a look! The best is when you change a diaper and they straightaway pee into the new one, before it is even fastened!

Is anyone into the baby mozart/baby einstein dvds? My nephew and niece loved them, but itunes didnt have them for sale, but i found them on youtube. Olivia enjoys them tho it took her a few viewings to really get used to them. Creature of habit, like most people!

 

[Coconuts]

Great breakdown Artsie, the AI2 cost is greatly reduced if you go Alva though. I would have gone for prefolds and wraps if Alva wasn't around. Who can afford bumgenius for an entire stash and full price???!?!??!?

 

[artsiekat]

Coco - I agree some of the pockets are so expensive, almost $20 a dipe, no thanks!

Does the alva come with inserts? I know you can buy them sans inserts, if you're a sewer, you could buy alva's pockets with no inserts and then sew your own up. There are tons of websites out there that sell awesome fabrics for diaper making or you could use sheets/flannel/whatever you have! I'm a bit obsessed with cloth diapers, if you couldn't tell already.

Sadie - I haven't tried them, but a friend has some baby einstein cd's and Quinn enjoyed listening to them. I should get one as he's started noticing things more, like the TV.

 

[Coconuts]

$5.95 get you the whole shebang. One insert and the diaper to put it in.
I'll get thirty pocket diapers and 20 extra 4 layer bamboo / microfiber doublers. Bamboo next to baby is fine so I understand. the lining of the diaper is a kind of suade those which is great for wicking the wetness away from bottoms so I'll probably double stuff.With some wet / dry bags thrown in to the order I'll get my whole Alva stash for 180 euros!!! shame I'll have to pay a load of duty and tax to get them into Italy but it still works out cheaper than ordering them from Europe and paying silly prices. Even if I went the purely prefold and wrap route. The reason I changes was mainly for the popper fastening. All I can seem to find here are velcro tabs. Not a fan of curling velcro and little fingers easily undoing dirty nappies somewhere where she shouldn't.

I'm so into this too! Can;t wait to start really. Going to make a bunch of my own flannel / cotton double sided wipes myslef and make up a gentle cleanser spray with essential oils. So crunchy.

 

[ebelle]

All this excitement about cloth diapers has made me decide to try it as well. I was thinking about it, butt was not keen on the washing part. After seeing a fwe you tube videos on washing, it'd not that bad so think I will be getting some alva baby to try too! I found that there is someone here in Singapore who sells them, so I could order there instead and the price seems even a bit cheaper!

 

[Coconuts]

Artsie, I think we're helping all these new moms spend money (save in the long run of course)

Their cute little bottom in those cute designs and not having to put diapers in your shopping trolley every week and add 20 bucks to your shopping bill will be every bit as enjoyable too.

You're right Ebelle, there is the washing but I plan to dunk and swirl (and separate) my dipes in the loo before putting them in the wet bag (an extra minute after a change tops) so come the evening I can just turn the wet bag inside out into the machine and turn it on then go eat dinner (of course after washing my hands ) Before bed I'll hang out the diapers and leave them to dry the following day while we go on as business as usual. It's a little extra work than just throwing a diaper in the trash but worth it for baby's butt, the environment, and our wallets.
https://www.psychology.org.au/Assets/Images/Nappy-graphic-Uzzell.jpg

 

[sadie]

Artsie, i boughht two of the cds on itunes and O loves them and she laughs when I dance around to entertain her.... Head shoulders knees and toes, etc!

The videos on youtube are great. She really loves them. Sits quietly in her hi chair and is fascinated!

Coco, you are right! Money, environment, good for the tush! In the beginning tho, dont expect it to be so easy! I leave dirty diapers here and there as I just cant always make it to the pail straightaway. But then again, I have no one here helping me, not even a grandmother, as she is too old.

Speaking of the granny, she almost insists on walking around with O in her arms. I had to ask dh how to handle the situation and hegave me advice. Last night before dinner, he had to tell her 4 times to come back and sit down on the couch. An 88 year old woman should not be walking around with an infant in her arms. Heck, when i was in NY we didnt let me father drive the car (bad eyesight and a big time heart patient!)

 

[Coconuts]

Eeeeek that's a bit scary. MIL is in her early 70's now and I don't like the thought of her going up the stairs with G in her arms either. She's a rather large lady and has a job just getting herself up the stairs. The complains she feels dizzy a lot too. She says she want to help us out and baby sit but I'm just like, ...... how????
I think she's forgotten how loud babies can be. A couple of hours with a baby has the potential to send her to bed at 6pm with a headache. We'll just have to see I guess. I'm assuming she won't want to dance around with the baby if she doesn't feel on form - I assume. I think we're going to have to handle that when we come to it.
As for her changing our diapers!!!! I think I'll just have to give her the travel diaper bag so she can change the diaper without going up the stairs or deal with the loo part. She can just put the whole stinkin' lot in the wet/dry bag, as I would do if I were out somewhere and when I'm back I'll deal with the bag of horrors myself. When I can.
I'm ordering 4. 2 to store the stinkers, one for out and about and or the morning after wash day until the dirty bags are dry and the other for around the house (like you say, if I don't have time to complete the change for whatever reason). Bung it in a bag and deal with it later. Hoping that'll be the exception rather than the rule though. It's all so unpredictable.

Trina, lovely mental image of you prancing around the house making O laugh!

 

[ebelle]

I have to say that most of the babies I know enjoy Baby Einstein a lot. I have a bunch of them saved and I share with my friends who have kids.

I'm planning to start playing it to baby artoo in a couple of weeks. hopefully he/she can hear and enjoy the music.

 

[B&LsMom]

Artsie, i boughht two of the cds on itunes and O loves them and she laughs when I dance around to entertain her.... Head shoulders knees and toes, etc!

The videos on youtube are great. She really loves them. Sits quietly in her hi chair and is fascinated!

Coco, you are right! Money, environment, good for the tush! In the beginning tho, dont expect it to be so easy! I leave dirty diapers here and there as I just cant always make it to the pail straightaway. But then again, I have no one here helping me, not even a grandmother, as she is too old.

Speaking of the granny, she almost insists on walking around with O in her arms. I had to ask dh how to handle the situation and hegave me advice. Last night before dinner, he had to tell her 4 times to come back and sit down on the couch. An 88 year old woman should not be walking around with an infant in her arms. Heck, when i was in NY we didnt let me father drive the car (bad eyesight and a big time heart patient!)

Blake's Great Grandmother (DH's Maternal Grandmother) is very young actually just turned 69. so was 65 when he was born--and she would always take him away out of my sight---I HATED that. If you want to sing a song do it here where I can see what is going on--I always felt she was sneaking away with him. She also ALWAYS insists we leave a car seat when she watches him "in case of an emergency" she claims--If its and emergency call 911 and an ambulance will come get him--you wont need a car seat! But I know its so she can take him around to places and show him off, or spoil him with McDonalds or ice-cream or by shopping--but she is a TERRIBLE driver. I hate when she watches him!! OK grandma rant over LOL

 

[Katy78]

Neither of us has any grandparents left so there won't be any close elderly relatives babysitting. OH's mom is still young enough, she has several years till retirement. She lives in the same area so we'll be able to use her as a babysitter now and then, in the afternoons. My mother doesn't have a job so she's earning some money as a babysitter. She'll be babysitting a one-year-old next year and probably my little niece too, at the same time. She's afraid it will be hard but she'll make it work. As for my baby, well, she lives an hour away anyay so she'll only see baby A when we visit together or for an occasional holiday when baby A is older.
She's extremely proud she's a grandmother and she takes my niece out with a baby carriage as often as she can. She's really showing off. It seems to me that my sister in law doesn't have much say in it. Or she's fine with it so she's free to do other stuff. I definitely wouldn't want that.

 

[Coconuts]

I see a general theme here that us new mammas in general don't like ( the thought of, or in reality) other people wandering off / around with our new babies. Must be a natural instinct.

My mum is a spritely 62, she does yoga and even bloomin zumba. No issues with G and Gran there. It's just MIL. Argh. Old ill and obsessed with G already. She's already told me that the grandmother grandchild bond is more special than mother baby! That was a thorn in my side. She's just so excited to be a nonna at last, I won't take it away from her but I'm fully expecting an invasion from her on a daily basis. Lord help me.
If only it was my own ma who lived nearer!!!!!!!

 

[sadie]

I have no problem with people watching/playing with O as long as i have faith in them. In fact, my mom was amazing this summer. She drove us everywhere and was a huge help as were both of my sisters. It's my mil who i just dont feel secure about. No way can i leave her alone with O, not even for five seconds!
The other night she tried to give O a breadstick. To make it worse, it had sesame seeds on it! She also tried to prop her up on her own seat that didnt even have side supports if she was to fall over sideways! Then she tried to prop her up on a couch that had a flat back using a pile of magazines on ine side and her purse on the other! Nice. I miss my family, thats for sure.

 

[Coconuts]

Oh my goodness. I feel for you. It must make you feel like you're being an overprotective mother in her eyes when you're just trying to keep O out of these mad and risky situations.
good luck!!!

 

[LoloShells]

Hi ladies, for those of you who had the NT scan, how many mm did they measure?

Had mine today, but the tech didn't tell me anything. She was concerned about that damn cyst on my ovary. Went back a couple hours later to see the doctor at her request, who seems worried about the cyst. I have to see a radiologist and possibly an oncologist. It's a complex cyst with some tumor-like growths. 9 cm big. I honestly think its the same one they found when I was pregnant with Kylee.

Anyways I just want to know that baby is healthy, I can't find what a normal measurement for the NT scan is though.

 

[ebelle]

I didn't do the NT scan so can't help. So sorry Lolo. Don't worry I am sure everything is fine.