Doctor Appointments

[Sus09]

How are you today Nats?

 

[Natsby]

How are you today Nats?

Hi Sus, I´m ok thanks. and you? I read some stuff yesterday about smoking weed and what it does to sperm and so now I feel hopeful that is our problem, (him not me I don´t have any vice apart from cakes.) So OH has quit smoking the evil weed and cut back on the ciggies and we will try iui in Feb. Which means this is the most relaxed I have been for ages. I´m not thinking about testing this month, I don´t even feel like I´m in the tww, so like you I can just kick back and be like a normal person, (almost.)
Are you enjoying the break or are you just waiting to get back into it all? How was work today? Can´t you find a job with nicer people? I don´t like to think about them being mean to you.

 

[Sus09]

Hi Nats,

I am glad that you are feeling better. I am positive that if your OH has stopped smoking weed, then his next SA should be much better. I am only saying this becouse with my ex boyfriend it made a difference, he also changed his underwear and tight jeans and altogether the improvement was massive and I got PG at my 4th cycle (we did all our tests then before we TTC, as then I had very irregular cycles)

My friend emailed me back and she is asking few of her doctor colleagues what is the situation with meds and social security and if there are any loopholes for you to get as much funding as you can. She did say thought that the cut backs in public health are true Incredible how Spain has changed...

I does the world of good when you can sit back and relax. I am sort of glad that we missed ov this cycle. Nope, I am not starting it all again till January at least. I followed Dmom in the non BBT cycle just to be able to take my head off things. It won´t be a NTNP cycle as my OH wants me to do the OPK (I think he is on a mission to proove himself that he can perform during Ov poor me!)

My job can be horrible but also rewarding. We work with all types of people some are very nice and want to be helped, but a high percentage are very nasty. I have been quite tearful this week as few of us have had far too much verbal abuse. However yesterday someone that I had helped into work 3 years ago, stopped me in the street and thanked me for the help I gave him. in the afternoon I received a box of chocloates from him at my new office and a thank you card. That was rewarding! he remembered me from 3 years ago!!

 

[Desperado167]

Sus who would forget a lovely lass like you ,

 

[Natsby]

Sus who would forget a lovely lass like you ,

Too true!

 

[jack79]

Hi Nats,

I am glad that you are feeling better. I am positive that if your OH has stopped smoking weed, then his next SA should be much better. I am only saying this becouse with my ex boyfriend it made a difference, he also changed his underwear and tight jeans and altogether the improvement was massive and I got PG at my 4th cycle (we did all our tests then before we TTC, as then I had very irregular cycles)

My friend emailed me back and she is asking few of her doctor colleagues what is the situation with meds and social security and if there are any loopholes for you to get as much funding as you can. She did say thought that the cut backs in public health are true Incredible how Spain has changed...

I does the world of good when you can sit back and relax. I am sort of glad that we missed ov this cycle. Nope, I am not starting it all again till January at least. I followed Dmom in the non BBT cycle just to be able to take my head off things. It won´t be a NTNP cycle as my OH wants me to do the OPK (I think he is on a mission to proove himself that he can perform during Ov poor me!)

My job can be horrible but also rewarding. We work with all types of people some are very nice and want to be helped, but a high percentage are very nasty. I have been quite tearful this week as few of us have had far too much verbal abuse. However yesterday someone that I had helped into work 3 years ago, stopped me in the street and thanked me for the help I gave him. in the afternoon I received a box of chocloates from him at my new office and a thank you card. That was rewarding! he remembered me from 3 years ago!!

Hi ladies

I hope you don't mind me joining in here...I was reading your comments about OHs smoking weed and wanted to air my views and get some advice at the same time. My OH used to smoke but gave up about a year ago...although he has smoked on a few occassions (causing arguments as he tried to hide it from me). He told me two weeks ago that he had been 'stoned' with his friends and then tonight came home late when i was in bed after being at the same friends house and I have a strong suspicion that he was smoking again. We have been TTC for nearly 2 years and his SA results weren't great (3% then 6% normal form, although count and motility were good). He knows how much I hate him smoking as I believe each time he does he is affecting our chances of conceiving. We have had very emotionally charged talks/ arguments about it and he has promised he will try harder. Did you have similar struggles and if so how did you deal with them? I am at the stage where I am considering whether or not I can actually go on like this with him lying and feeding me false promises. Sorry to barge in with such a serious issue but really could do with some impartial advice.... Thanks!
x

 

[AnnaLaura]

It's ridiculous how much we have to self-educate just to get good health care.

I'm afraid nats, that's this is where you might be. You might need to get the results yourself (did you post them?) and compare/research/ etc. So many doctors feel differently about the same exact test results.

This is so true. I've had a problem with the labs, too. One lab I used here had their Vitamin D reference range as 9.5-30. I never went back to that one!

I have also done an unmedicated cycle of IUI. I've considered it this time as well. But, to be completely honest, it has the same success rate as sex, but is horribly more inconvenient. I'm not going to go through all of that without drugs, (that just made me sound like a druggie ).

Pardon my ignorance! I thought that IUI, unmedicated or not, involved "washing" the sperm and getting the best ones?

 

[Sus09]

Jack, I had no problem with my ex. As soon we found out his SA was so poor he made changes himself, i didnt have to ask. I understand that it is a difficult situation for you, i can only say what I would do. I would have a serious chat about whether he is serious and committed to have a little one as that is a big responsibility. On the other hand do you think is peer preassure? He does it cos is what his friends do?

 

[Natsby]

[/QUOTE]Hi ladies

I hope you don't mind me joining in here...I was reading your comments about OHs smoking weed and wanted to air my views and get some advice at the same time. My OH used to smoke but gave up about a year ago...although he has smoked on a few occasions (causing arguments as he tried to hide it from me). He told me two weeks ago that he had been 'stoned' with his friends and then tonight came home late when i was in bed after being at the same friends house and I have a strong suspicion that he was smoking again. We have been TTC for nearly 2 years and his SA results weren't great (3% then 6% normal form, although count and motility were good). He knows how much I hate him smoking as I believe each time he does he is affecting our chances of conceiving. We have had very emotionally charged talks/ arguments about it and he has promised he will try harder. Did you have similar struggles and if so how did you deal with them? I am at the stage where I am considering whether or not I can actually go on like this with him lying and feeding me false promises. Sorry to barge in with such a serious issue but really could do with some impartial advice.... Thanks!
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Hi and don´t worry about barging in, your more than welcome. I feel for you, it isn´t easy! Has his result improved since stopping smoking? Maybe if he could see the evidence that it works he would feel more motivated. If it hasn´t then you can understand why he doesn´t feel like it is worth it.

I think he has done really well quitting for a whole year with only a few lapses. He clearly understands it is important for you or he wouldn´t have managed that long. But it is difficult for a long term smoker to stop, especially when their friends continue. I would think it doesn´t matter if he smokes the odd spliff, he will lie to you if he thinks it was a one off, but will become a big argument if he tells you. If you are more relaxed he may feel able to be more honest. That is my experience (this isn´t the first time OH has tried to stop.) The important thing is he is trying. Of course if he is a habitual liar then sure have doubts but maybe it is just a case of finding a bit a balance between him smoking all the time and complete abstinence.
Good luck

 

[Sus09]

Actually, i completely second what Nats has said! She had better words describing the situation than me!

I missed the fact that your OH is a long term smoker and that it is hard to quit conpletely. Nats is so right when he says that he is trying and that shows that he understands how important it is.

 

[NorthStar]

Welcome jack79

I second what Nats and Sus already said, like giving up any bad habit there is bound to be a bit of backsliding, but it does sound like he is trying pretty hard.

My OH has agreed to do a SA, but not for another few weeks, his shift pattern is changing and he's not home much this month. I would be happy to go to the docs and pick up the sample cup and forms, but do you ladies know if the doc would give them to me? Or do you think he would have to go in himself for them? I suspect he'd have to go himself.

 

[Natsby]

Great he has said he is willing to go! I collected everything for my OH, it seemed like they are used to it. I guess men a generally a bit rubbish about these things. I don´t know if it will work the same for you but I can´t see why not. I hope you get a good result.

 

[NorthStar]

We aren't with the same doctor, so I will give the doctors a call and just ask them I guess. If he doesn't have the cringe factor involved I suspect he'll do it a lot quicker

I have a horrible feeling that we may also have male factor, he smokes, and uses steriod cream and antihistamines for allergies. But only way to deal is to find out first.

 

[dachsundmom]

I was able to pick up the forms for N, but it was my doc who wrote the orders. I am not sure what privacy laws are like over there, but here, N would have to speak to his doc himself.

 

[NorthStar]

That's what I suspected, I think he'll have to go himself. I might insist on going with him

 

[dachsundmom]

I think you should definitely go with him! LOL

 

[Jax41]

NS, me and DH have separate Dr's in separate practices and mine told me that DH would have to go, do the biz, see his Dr for his results and then only with his permission (DH's that is) I can take them to mine........ This is of course if I ever get over myself to ask....

 

[dachsundmom]

NS, me and DH have separate Dr's in separate practices and mine told me that DH would have to go, do the biz, see his Dr for his results and then only with his permission (DH's that is) I can take them to mine........ This is of course if I ever get over myself to ask....

 

[NorthStar]

Ok well then it has to wait until 1 months time then, that's ok, I don't want to get the bad news until after Xmas I guess.

 

[jack79]

Ladies thank-you all for your words of wisdom! I was just having a stressy moment I think... yes I think it is most probably peer pressure that makes him succumb now and then...and yes I probably need to relax a bit more about it... AF came yesterday so thats probably why i was feeling more bothered than usual... He has done a good job and is trying hard so I need to try and focus on the positives... thanks again for your support x