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Early riser..any suggestions

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My DD was pretty good first 3 month with 3 naps a day and sleeping from 6-7pm till 7-8am (waking up just for feeds)

After 4month (she is 4,5month now) not just she wakes up more frequently during the night, she also started to wake up for the day at 5am💤💤💤
She goes down for the night at 6:30-7pm, she just cant last longer.
Is it unrealistic for me to expect her to sleep longer with this bed time?
Her naps are
8-9am - 45min
10:30 or 11am - 1,5h
3-4pm - 45min to 1h

Any comments-suggestions?

P.s. After i weote this, she did had a feed, small cry and settled back to sleel at 6am and still sleeping now at 7am, so clearly she wants more sleep, but for some reason wakes up at 5am anyway?!
 
Its getting much lighter in the mornings now and the birds are insanely loud sometimes with their dawn chorus - could she be waking due to light levels etc. and although she is tired finding it hard to go back to sleep?

Sleep patterns change around 4months, so I think the more frequent night wakings are quite common around this time. Do you feed her when she wakes at 5am or is she just not interested usually?
 
Is it unrealistic? Maybe. It depends on your baby. Some are great sleepers, some are not so great. If you have a great sleeper, they might sleep 7pm-7am without a problem. If you have a bad sleeper, nothing on earth will change the way they sleep. The worst thing you can do is worry too much about it.

Her sleep will probably change again in a few weeks, and then again a few weeks after that, and it will probably keep changing in one way or another over the months until she is about 18 months old.

You can drive yourself nuts trying to figure out a solution to changes that will simply resolve more or less by themselves in time.

The only thing I would suggest to try is that 5am is usually the coldest part of the night. If she is not really cosy, the cold might be waking her.
 
At 5am its still pitch dark with roman blinds and dark curtains and we usually dont open the windows, so no birds singing here
At 5am she is not interested in feed, just turns away from me and stares behind her back somewhere in the dark😂 As if it was daytime

Its getting much lighter in the mornings now and the birds are insanely loud sometimes with their dawn chorus - could she be waking due to light levels etc. and although she is tired finding it hard to go back to sleep?

Sleep patterns change around 4months, so I think the more frequent night wakings are quite common around this time. Do you feed her when she wakes at 5am or is she just not interested usually?
 
She is (or was untill she hit 4 month) fairly good sleeper comapred to my DS, but 5am is waaay too early, i am more used to 6am with my DS
I'll try to put extra layer after last night feed which is usually around 2am, but i guess you are right, sometimes its just what it is and it will change at some point

Is it unrealistic? Maybe. It depends on your baby. Some are great sleepers, some are not so great. If you have a great sleeper, they might sleep 7pm-7am without a problem. If you have a bad sleeper, nothing on earth will change the way they sleep. The worst thing you can do is worry too much about it.

Her sleep will probably change again in a few weeks, and then again a few weeks after that, and it will probably keep changing in one way or another over the months until she is about 18 months old.

You can drive yourself nuts trying to figure out a solution to changes that will simply resolve more or less by themselves in time.

The only thing I would suggest to try is that 5am is usually the coldest part of the night. If she is not really cosy, the cold might be waking her.
 
My DD1 was/is an early riser and absolutely nothing we do has made an iota of difference.

If like me your annoyance came from wanting more sleep the only solution is going to bed earlier, I'm often in bed by 9 and I feel no shame :rofl:
 
This might sound terrible, but after a few mornings of my son waking at 5am but refusing a feed I started to leave him. If he cried I would get him otherwise he stayed in his cot. He woke a few more mornings but didn't cry and now wakes at 8am. Not sure if it was due to leaving him or just he decides to sleep again.
 
My DD1 was/is an early riser and absolutely nothing we do has made an iota of difference.

If like me your annoyance came from wanting more sleep the only solution is going to bed earlier, I'm often in bed by 9 and I feel no shame :rofl:

Thats what i do now, my bedtime is 9pm sharp and ocasionally 10pm if i want to watch movie or something

I will try to adjust her naps and work on feeding pattern as its getting too much getting up at night and so early in the morning
My DS is early riser and sleeps Min hours for his age and always was, so hope she will not be like him :)
 
This might sound terrible, but after a few mornings of my son waking at 5am but refusing a feed I started to leave him. If he cried I would get him otherwise he stayed in his cot. He woke a few more mornings but didn't cry and now wakes at 8am. Not sure if it was due to leaving him or just he decides to sleep again.

It might be good idea actually. The only problem is that she sleeps in cot in our room and DS comes to sleep in our bed around 2am, so if i leave her to settle, she just wakes everyone up
I do take her to DS room and put in his bed and lay on floor by her side. She does not cry, but starts to chat
Very loudly, probably i will leave her to it and see what happens
 
My 4 month old does this occasionally. She is not hungry and is grumpy so she is not ready to get up yet. but she has a really hard time settling back to sleep at this time of day. I end up taking her into bed with me so we can both get some sleep. I know it may not be an option for you with another little one already in your bed, but it works for me. I'm just hoping it doesn't become a habit!
 
What does she do if you feed her and just put her back down to sleep more at 5am? My son has been sleeping the same since 4 months old and now he is almost 10 months. He goes to bed at 7pm and wakes up anywhere between 5-7am. He doesn't wake up at all during the night. Lately he has been sleeping almost 7-7, but that was only in the past month. When he does get up at 5, I just feed him and put him back in his crib. He is not totally ready to get right back to sleep. He may talk or chew on his hands for 30-45 minutes but he falls back to sleep without any crying or anything. Then he wakes up around 8. If he sleeps straight through until 6:30-7 then I just get him up for the day. I don't know if this would work for your daughter or not.
 
I do all night feeds so if she won't go back down after a feed and snuggles in bed then she gets given to OH to take downstairs while I get a bit extra sleep. I have a spare bed in her room so I sleep in there from first wake up.
 
I do all night feeds so if she won't go back down after a feed and snuggles in bed then she gets given to OH to take downstairs while I get a bit extra sleep. I have a spare bed in her room so I sleep in there from first wake up.

Spare bed is a good idea!
OH looks after DS, so whenever he goes back to his room during the night or wakes up earlier than DD, then its OH who goes with him, so i cant really give him DD when she wakes up earlier.
 
What does she do if you feed her and just put her back down to sleep more at 5am? My son has been sleeping the same since 4 months old and now he is almost 10 months. He goes to bed at 7pm and wakes up anywhere between 5-7am. He doesn't wake up at all during the night. Lately he has been sleeping almost 7-7, but that was only in the past month. When he does get up at 5, I just feed him and put him back in his crib. He is not totally ready to get right back to sleep. He may talk or chew on his hands for 30-45 minutes but he falls back to sleep without any crying or anything. Then he wakes up around 8. If he sleeps straight through until 6:30-7 then I just get him up for the day. I don't know if this would work for your daughter or not.

She starts to chat/moan/chee her hands veeery loudly and DS usually comes to our bed at night, so i cant leave her in the cot in danger to wake up everyone
 
Past 2 nights been better
I added one more nap during the day andput her to bed at 7:30pm instead, she woke up only twice for feed and up at 6am which works with me
Lets see if we can keep this pattern
 
My 4 month old does this occasionally. She is not hungry and is grumpy so she is not ready to get up yet. but she has a really hard time settling back to sleep at this time of day. I end up taking her into bed with me so we can both get some sleep. I know it may not be an option for you with another little one already in your bed, but it works for me. I'm just hoping it doesn't become a habit!

Whatever works for extra sleep, haha!
Actually she wont settle next to me, i tried to put her on other of the bed with me (we have super kingsize so enogh space for everyone if we wanted :) she just toss and turn untill i put her back to her cot. She either fells alsleep then or wakes herself up
 
My daughter was like this and still gets up at 5am. I've had to get used to it, and invest in lots of coffee.
 
My daughter was like this and still gets up at 5am. I've had to get used to it, and invest in lots of coffee.

Haha!
My DS is 3,5 now and for 3,5 years getting up 6am or so, i learned to love early mornings..but 5am is tooo early...
What do you do at thattime of the day?:)
 
My dd goes through stages just like this.. Perfect sleeper, perfect naps and then out of the blue she's waking up a lot and waking early. I have found that if I'm patient through the phase it passes relatively quickly and she's back to sleeping well :)
 
Early waking is normal, the baby's drive to sleep is the lowest after 5 am.

It is also generally related to the first/morning nap being (1) too early and (2) too long. No more than an hour (wake the baby) and no earlier than 8:30 am, but 9 is better.
 

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