Entering the world of Assisted Conception...like it or not...

I'm a huge fan of cutting down that stress and doing acupuncture - that sounds wonderful, Hiker! <3

Nothing major happening with me - about a month left until my surgery, so 7 months until TTC can resume if all goes well. Taking things slow and steady over here. :winkwink:
 
Hiker - huge congrats. So exciting you are getting started. Sounds like you should respond pretty well if they gave you double the dose. Hopefully you'll get lots of healthy eggs and they all fertilize. I know you are definetly supposed to take it easy on exercise to help with egg quality before the retrieval. Then after they transfer the embryos you need to be pretty low key. I think my clinic recommends bed rest for a day and then just don't overdue anything after that. Excellent time for some relaxation type activities.

We are still planning for a June IVF cycle. I still need to do the tests for HIV, etc (can't remember what all they test for but its a lot of illnesses) and that should be my last pre-test needed before getting started.
 
Thank you guys for all your supportive words! So far, so good. I went in today for my first bloodwork and ultrasound. They used the words "quiet" to describe how I'm responding. I'm a little worried. They called and said I need to increase from 300 to 450 IU of follistim and from 75 to 150 of menopur. We need to get my ovaries in high gear here! I'll try this for 3 days then Thursday I'll have another appt. I'm hoping the higher meds will get things rolling a bit!!

Star e, how are your temps?

Robinson, how's it going in the tww?

Any other news anyone?
 
hiker, i think the increased dose should kick the ovaries into high gear, hopefully not too high. i have found that with the injectables from one day to the next can make a huge difference. i hope you next appointment reveals great news and that you can start this journey and hopefully get your bfp! keep us updated, it's interesting learning about the ivf process through the stories of others. by low exercise does that mean you can't even go walking? or that the walks would have to be short?

afm, my news starts positive and ends negative. the positive news is that af showed. i am cd2 and yesterday, before my appointment today, i was thrilled. thrilled b/c af showed and b/c it turns out that FF worked, the temps did detect ovulation and also gave me the heads up that af would show. that was a wonderful insight b/c i was disappointed that b/c of my pcos and protocol with injectables, i would not have access to this helpful method of pinpointing ovd.

anyway, at my appointment today, i found out that my follicles on the left side shrunk, but that there are still 3 big follicles on the right. the doc said i am out another month. she did mention i can come in on thrusday just to see if the hormones from af had an immediate effect on shrinking them, but that it is very very unlikely and i should just prepare to wait a month. and potentially even worse, she said in one month if i still have a big one left that she could drain it, but that it would be very painful b/c they don't use anesthesia to do it. that's why they can't drain them right now - apparently its so painful that they will only subject a person to one drain. the prospect of having to do that in a month is terrifying. i hope the follicles all shrink and i don't have to face that. in any case, i am just disappointed and frustrated with the process.

then, i decided to ask the clinic for a copy of my medical records b/c they do not have an online portal for me to review the results of blood tests, etc and i think having that info could be helpful to my understanding of what's going on. the lady at the front desk seemed surprised and the doctor came in and heard us discussing the process of releasing the records and she looked surprise. i prob should have mentioned that i want them simply b/c i am curious, but the situation just felt awkward so i stayed quiet. wish it was just common knowledge that if there is no online portal, some people will be curious and want to know the specifics/stats that make up their profile.

anyway, good luck to all of you! look forward to hearing the updates.
 
Hi guys, had another scan and bloodwork today. Estrogen has doubled, but follicles still small. I'm continuing on high dose and another recheck Monday. Nurse said birth control pills may have slowed things for me. Which makes me so angry because the only reason they put me on them was to get me on the same schedule as the other ladies for scheduling purposes at the hospital. Anyway, hoping things develop soon and cam do my retrieval next week. I'm so anxious.

Oh and by the way, my brother and sister in law came in to visit this weekend and wouldn't you know it, she's freaking pregnant. And I had imagined being very pregnant at their wedding last June. I was all smiles, then we left in the car and I sobbed.
 
jeez why.. cp rose and firmed up today. went to grab some $ cheapies get home and realize they are opks.. whhhhhyyyyyy... ugh... take em never had a line on a opk don't like using them blazing two lines.. now I am even more confused if I od 12dpo today.. so frustrated lol
 
jeez why.. cp rose and firmed up today. went to grab some $ cheapies get home and realize they are opks.. whhhhhyyyyyy... ugh... take em never had a line on a opk don't like using them blazing two lines.. now I am even more confused if I od 12dpo today.. so frustrated lol

Mine went positive when I got my bfp. Sometimes they go positive b4 af too. That's so frustrating that you got the wrong tests.
 
Hi guys, had another scan and bloodwork today. Estrogen has doubled, but follicles still small. I'm continuing on high dose and another recheck Monday. Nurse said birth control pills may have slowed things for me. Which makes me so angry because the only reason they put me on them was to get me on the same schedule as the other ladies for scheduling purposes at the hospital. Anyway, hoping things develop soon and cam do my retrieval next week. I'm so anxious.

Oh and by the way, my brother and sister in law came in to visit this weekend and wouldn't you know it, she's freaking pregnant. And I had imagined being very pregnant at their wedding last June. I was all smiles, then we left in the car and I sobbed.

hiker, any updates? and i can empathize, it's tough wanting to be pregnant and thinking it comes so easily for others. maybe they struggled to, but sometimes people don't share that information so it can appear like it was struggle free. i have really realized that this ttc might be a very long process. im waiting the month out and hoping the follicles have shrunk by then and will not need to be drained as that can be extremely painful. any updates with you?
 
StAR e, thanks for checking in on me.these past fee days have been really rough. After my brother's news, then this morning I had my next bloodwork and ultrasound. My doc just called to tell me he needs to cancel this cycle because I only have 1 follicle. ONE!!! So I've been crying on and off for a while. How can I be on the one drug at 150 and this month taking 450 plus another drug and only get one?!?! I think it was the birth control. They said that can delay things progressing. So because of their scheduling issue, my fertility gets affected even more? I am so upset.

He said he wants us to do an iui Thursday, so I need to schedule that in a minute, and that he said often people get pregnant after a cancelled ivf cycle so don't be surprised ...but otherwise I probably can't try ivf again until June. I almost don't want to do iui for the very reason that if I get pregnant then I won't have any eggs left in a year or so. I just want to get this ivf crap done with so we can have the family we want. I am so confused and sad and angry right now.
 
oh hiker - I am so devastated for you! I'm sorry that this happened - I would be SO frustrated. that's really just horrible and it makes no sense how that happened so it's obv to me that it must have been the birth control.

I just can't believe they need to have everyone on the same schedule. it doesn't make any sense to me. I had to schedule my SIS and ideally would have been this week but I couldn't because of egg retrievals. I was a little taken back that the whole week was unavailable for me to go there. So now I'm doing the SIS on the 2nd which is CD 11 and last month I o'ed on CD 13. I'm worried that it will affect the egg implanting or something - being so close together. ugh.

we are looking at IVF in August if nothing works (would have been July but you said they are closed that month...:dohh:) and I know I will not be a happy camper if they recommend the BC (which I'm sure they will).

anyway, maybe this could be it. how things happen when we least expect. although I get the need to retrieve more eggs too. So I'm just hoping that the best possible scenario can pan out for you now. :hugs: let me know if you need to drink your sorrows away after this cycle and I'll gladly join !
 
Hiker - grrr that is so frustrating. Especially because you had to cancel the IUI before because there were too many follicles and now there aren't enough when you want more. So frustrating. Sending you hugs. :hugs: This process can be so trying and sometimes feels like it's never going to happen.

I'm not sure why they require everyone to be on the same cycle either. I'm assuming it makes it easier for the doctors, but if the BC affected your levels that much, I'm sure it does others and that's just too frustrating they can't work it out. I don't believe my doctors require that, but they are the only ones in our state that don't. Everyone else groups them together as well. Though, I think BC is common to "calm" the eggs before stimulating them anyway. But all of it is so much trial and error, since they go by what works for the majority and your body could be completely different.

Who knows maybe the IUI will work this time though and it will be a happy cancellation. Fingers crossed for you!

Bee - that stinks you can't get your SIS at the time you need. Hopefully it doesn't affect anything though. I'd really hope they would have brought it up if there's any concern of that.
 
Sorry for the disappointment Hiker. I can't imagine how frustrated you must be. I'm still rooting for you.
 
Ugh hiker that makes me so mad to hear. :growlmad: I'm so sorry. Glad it can be converted to an IUI, but like you said, it's so unfair and the opposite of what should be happening. I feel for you, girl. :hugs: :cry:
 
Thanks guys. I really appreciate your support. Bronte, you are lucky yours doesn't force you to do that. I am going to start shopping around tonight for other places that are covered by my insurance. I'm so pissed.
 
Hiker I am so so sorry you are going through this :hugs:. I'm not sure about how Magee's ivf worked, but I don't think every woman had to be on the exact same schedule. I never heard of that b4. I could get into the office whenever necessary without a problem. It's common sense that birth control can effect your body, they're hormones to stop ovulation. I'm angry for you :growlmad:. You are in my thoughts and I really hope you get the outcome you want.
 
StAR e, thanks for checking in on me.these past fee days have been really rough. After my brother's news, then this morning I had my next bloodwork and ultrasound. My doc just called to tell me he needs to cancel this cycle because I only have 1 follicle. ONE!!! So I've been crying on and off for a while. How can I be on the one drug at 150 and this month taking 450 plus another drug and only get one?!?! I think it was the birth control. They said that can delay things progressing. So because of their scheduling issue, my fertility gets affected even more? I am so upset.

He said he wants us to do an iui Thursday, so I need to schedule that in a minute, and that he said often people get pregnant after a cancelled ivf cycle so don't be surprised ...but otherwise I probably can't try ivf again until June. I almost don't want to do iui for the very reason that if I get pregnant then I won't have any eggs left in a year or so. I just want to get this ivf crap done with so we can have the family we want. I am so confused and sad and angry right now.

hiker, i am so very sorry to hear this news. it's just awful that the bcps slowed it down and all in the name of scheduling. im so so sorry. :hugs:

also sorry to be uninformed, but i have no idea what you mean by you won't have any eggs left in a year. does ivf take away all your eggs? and if the iui does not work, why can't you just start ivf next cycle, why do you have to wait until june?
 
Hi all,
Thanks for the sympathy, support and kind words. I appreciate all of you so much. It was a huge blow, especially when I was expecting to respond so well based on the previous month. It's been an emotional few days but I have a plan and am feeling empowered actually! I am completely convinced that the BCP were the culprit. After all, they were the only factor that changed. And just doing a little reading and research, this is not an uncommon thing to have happen. I am thinking about it like the BCPs and their suppression are fighting with the stim meds and they are cancelling each other out. And with my DOR, I think the last thing I need is anything suppressing.

So tomorrow is the IUI, which I don't expect to work, but if it does, great! Afterward we are going to speak with the doctor again to get the final word on what his plan would be for us going forward, whether I could opt out of using BCPs, or what any other options he might offer us, and if he can offer me something that's in MY best interest, not the office's scheduling. I'm also getting copies of my records at that time.

In the meantime, I've found another IVF facility in the area that seems very reputable, experienced, and has all the facilities in house so they can do all the retrievals, transfers, embryology on site. They do IVF 3 times a year, but all the patients are treated individually. The nurse said they do 4-5 retrievals a week, so definitely there is no kind of "schedule" for grouping people together - that it's based on when each person happens to be ready for retrieval according to their situation. When I described the process of how they do it where I am now, her exact words were "that's just goofy." She kept reiterating how every person and body is different so how can they expect everyone to fit to a schedule?

I've also found after doing a little reading on this new place that they encourage acupuncture, yoga, etc. as a holistic approach to this process. Where I go now, they kind of scoff at the fact that I do acupuncture (like "ya, you can try that but it won't do anything"). Overall I have a great feeling about them and think they will be a better fit for me. I also found some stats on this place and the success rate was way higher than where I'm going, and seemed at or above the national IVF success rate.

Once they get my records (my mom so kindly offered to hand-deliver them Friday morning), they are going to schedule a phone consult with my husband and I to expedite the process, and hopefully I can slip right in as a new patient without too much disruption to my care.

So that's me. What a freaking rollercoaster!!!!

Star, you asked why I said about not having eggs in a year...well I have Diminished Ovarian Reserve, so who knows in a year how (or if) I would respond then. I kind of feel like we need to get as many as we can now while I am responding so down the road I have some embryos saved up. I might be ok in a year but we just don't know. As for why I have to wait for June, well at my current place (yet again), by the time my period would come, I'd already be too late to make the schedule for May's IVF protocol. Maybe at this new place I could start next cycle? Or maybe they'll want me to do a rest cycle...I don't know.

Hope you all are hanging in there. I think of every day that passes as another day closer to our goal!
 
Hiker- I'm really hoping the iui works. You have a back up plan which is great. The new facility sounds like they work for you and not themselves which is exactly what you need. I'm with the nurse, forcing women to be on the same schedule is goofy and unheard-of. I went to Magee Womens Hospital, and minus the cpn, I cannot say enough great things about them. They work for you and have 1 goal...to get you pregnant. Good luck today!
 
Thanks Smille,
I really like my doctor and feel comfortable there, but I feel that given the constraints of their practice, it might not be the best fit for me. We just had the IUI, and afterward got the doc's plan for next ivf should this IUI not work. He said I have no choice with the BCPs, but with the next cycle, they will max out the drugs as well as give me another drug to combat the effects of the bcp. I asked him if there was any medical reason I needed to be on bcps and he flat out said "not at all."

So...let me get this straight. You want me to take a drug thay very likely made me not respond, and therefore go against everything we are trying to achieve here, and yet I still have to take it for no medical reason at all, and in order to rectify that, you're going to pump me up with more drugs? Whaaat?

So I got my records and just faxed to the other place. Hoping I hear tomorrow from them and can start the process to getting a second opinion and potentially switching. Sigh.
 
That's a load of crap! Definitely seek a second opinion, bc there is no reason to take bcp when you are trying to achieve pregnancy. The reasoning of being on the same schedule as other women is not a legitimate excuse and they are jeopardizing success. I hope the iui works and if not, I hope this new place is more accommodating to YOUR needs and not theirs.
 

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