February IVF Buddies!! 2nd Cycle. FET

[Cjohnson13]

(Hugs htw) I know how you feel and I'm not sure anything I can say would make a diff. I just know how you feel. Barb I'm sure your little embies will grow!!

Afm my 2nd beta at 9dp5dt was 50....my first was 31.....the re thinks it will be fine because it was a 60% increase and they just hope or a 53% but after the last 2 chemicals idk.....I hate to be hopeful

 

[eveclo]

Eveclo- Yay for ET date!! How exciting!! Are they thawing your embies tomorrow? I've only been on progesterone once - endometrin vaginal tabs with my last FET and I didn't get AF until 2 days after stopping the meds.


Barbi- 7 embryos is good. Don't count the 2 out yet- perhaps they are late bloomers! I know how upsetting it can be to get the initial fert report - I had 22 eggs collected but only 11 fertilized (with ICSI!) so I felt defeated too. I will keep my FX your rainbow baby(ies) are still growing, growing, growing!! This journey sure sucks sometimes and I really really want you to get your happy ending!

Pisces- Sorry about the BFN with your FET. It sounds like you and your hubby have a great attitude about it all though! Dark Chocolate usually makes me feel a wee bit better too

CJ- Hope you are feeling better. How was your second beta? FX for good doubling times!

AFM- Sorry I went MIA for a few days. My MIL had her mastectomy last week and it turns out they punctured her lung so she had another procedure a couple of days ago and is recovering a bit slower than expected. It seems she will be fine but is having an extended hospital stay so we were visiting her the last 2 days. My SIL was here staying with us too so I haven't had a chance to buy a test yet. I'm a bit of a nervous wreck about testing. I actually couldn't help but cry a few times this morning because I am so stressed about it all. I really just can't fathom it working. I mean, why would it?! I've never had a whiff of a BFP in 2.5+ years so it's so unlikely they'll be one this time. I can't even bear to think of what I'll do if (when?) just one line is all I see... Hubby is out running errands and is picking up a test for me. I think I will now just wait until after my PIO shot this evening to test. I'll keep you updated....

Yes, I think they will thaw them tomorrow I hope they make it past a morula this time, as last time we defrosted one it moved from a 8/9 cell 3 day to a morula on day 5. We are defrosting those last 2 day 3, and then if one arrests we can use our good quality blast (which was just a 'we'll see how it goes' embie when it was growing, and all the good quality were frozen at day 3. And it turned out to be one of our best so that's a good sign !

So sorry to hear about your MIL, I hope she is feeling better... Good luck testing! I hope there's a strong second line there for you! So badly.

Hi Girls,
Well I got my numbers. 7/15 fertilized and 5 are where they should be with a possibility that two might catch up....or not.
I'm seriously disappointed. We had only 5/10 in January and had really thought that having 15 would mean at least...10?! FAK.
I know it only takes one time but we already went through a fresh transfer, 2 FET and all of them bfn. So the only thing we can hope for is that these embryo are rock stars. Because this is our last ER and after they're all gone, that's it. Its just deflating, you know?
I'll be getting a call tomorrow to let me know if we're doing a 3-day transfer or 5. I have a strong feeling it will be 3-day.
Anyhow, I can do nothing more than hope for the very best. I have to figure, if after all this if nothing happens, my chances of pregnancy, period, is small.
I was excited...and now, I'm just nervous. Argh.

I know you must hear this all the time, but it really is quality and not quantity !! As you said, hopefully these are rock stars. My RE says she doesn't like to see any more than 15 eggs anyway, because there quality decreases. So lets keep our fingers crossed that all of these embies keep growing, and in my post above to HTW you can see i had 3 that were really good to freeze on day 3 and transfer one, and we had 3 others that looked crap and they continued to grow them to day 5 to see what would happen and one took the lead and became one of our best quality embryos! I can't remember it's grade but it was a good one! So hopefully you have the same surprise good luck ! Keep us updated with them.


I am a little confused though ladies... And I hope I don't sound stupid... I had a positive OPK on Thursday... Cd 16. So possibly ovulated on Friday Cd 17... And my ET is scheduled for Wednesday. I'm a little confused... Because it will be a 5 day transfer isn't that six days between? Friday being ovulation day (1), Saturday (2), Sunday (3), Monday (4) Tuesday (5) Wednesday (6)??? Does that make sense? I just worry it will be the wrong time to put it back like to late or something? Oh well. I guess we'll see how it goes. Maybe they're giving it the extra day to grow to blast? Because it didn't make it last time. As long as they defrost it on the right day which I assume will be tomorrow?? Maybe today they should... Ah who knows haha

 

[barbikins]

Well I would still have frosties. But DH doesn't want to do fresh cycle again :/

I wish you the best HTW. When is your beta?!
It's such a shitty process. Waiting. And knowing it could be over.
I think about how if my first IVF worked I'd be in my second trimester

 

[barbikins]

Thanks for the encouragement eve!
I'll keep you guys posted xo

 

[eveclo]

Thanks for the encouragement eve!
I'll keep you guys posted xo

Although both you & I haven't had success with either fresh / frozen, I know that we are just waiting for the one that is perfect and capable of being our take home baby. It's just a waiting game I suppose! Which is LAME! I would be about 18 weeks if my first worked. Wow that's a kick to the guts!

Hoping those embryos are growing well! I am eager to hear whether you'll be having a 3dt or 5dt !

 

[eveclo]

HTW! I hope your test has gone ok?!

 

[pisces78]

HTW: Good luck with your testing, keeping my fx and tx for you! Go larry go!

Eveclo: Wow, transfer has come up so fast! Only 2 sleeps to go! I will just go for the one embryo transfer, my DH does not want to risk twins at all!

CJ: Will keep my fx for your betas, good to hear your re think your numbers a good sign!

Barbs: Hope your embies are growing big and strong to turn into your take home baby! Seems like time has gone so fast that you have already gone through another fresh and looking to ET this week! My DH will also only go 2 fresh, I was lucky he agreed to this as well, as it sure costs alot!

ATM:Start OPK's this Friday, bcas it easter I can't get in for an early scan so will have it on Tuesday, next week at CD13, I had + OPK last month at CD14, so hopefully will stay the same. If I have +OPK over the easter holiday, will have to go in for a confirmation blood test, so hoping O doesn't happen over easter! Public holidays, makes things so difficult!!

 

[eveclo]

I rang the embryologists today just to check on the embies, and apparently they were defrosted today. So, both of the defrosted embryos were originally frozen at 8 cell. Now, one embryo has only 3 cells left & the other only has 5! Geez, speaking of a big blow to the confidence about this cycle! I was already doubting it but now just feeling worse! Last FET, our embryo defrosted 100% in tact, which was awesome! But I guess, that wasn't successful so I just can't imagine how this one would work ! The lady said that the they hope for roughly 50% cells in tact so she thinks the 3/8 one is out, but they're watching it over the next day and a bit. Luckily we have that 5 day frozen but it probably will arrest or something knowing our luck!

But that's my update. Fingers crossed they develop into something great

 

[eveclo]

HTW: Good luck with your testing, keeping my fx and tx for you! Go larry go!

Eveclo: Wow, transfer has come up so fast! Only 2 sleeps to go! I will just go for the one embryo transfer, my DH does not want to risk twins at all!

CJ: Will keep my fx for your betas, good to hear your re think your numbers a good sign!

Barbs: Hope your embies are growing big and strong to turn into your take home baby! Seems like time has gone so fast that you have already gone through another fresh and looking to ET this week! My DH will also only go 2 fresh, I was lucky he agreed to this as well, as it sure costs alot!

ATM:Start OPK's this Friday, bcas it easter I can't get in for an early scan so will have it on Tuesday, next week at CD13, I had + OPK last month at CD14, so hopefully will stay the same. If I have +OPK over the easter holiday, will have to go in for a confirmation blood test, so hoping O doesn't happen over easter! Public holidays, makes things so difficult!!

Definitely best to do one if you don't want twins! We would love just one healthy baby, but the risks and having twins to us is much less scary than being faced with possibly never having babies!

How frustrating about the holidays... When I had my blood test on my fresh cycle everything was closed (christmas) which was painful!

How many embies do you have frozen?

 

[barbikins]

eveclo, yes there's a few times I could have been pregnant or had that baby. I had a chemical over a year ago...so yep. Lots of what ifs...

piesces - yes the time really did fly when you stim. Don't know why that is. I think a part of it is that you have to go through ER and it makes me a little nervous. There's just so much going on during those days. I find with a FET it doesn't go by as fast. You're just taking P&E and waiting for your transfer date. It's similar to waiting for ovulation to me.

eveclo, I feel what you're saying. We wouldn't have dared to transfer more than one embryo but we're so desensitized now and know it doesn't happen for us so easily so I just want to have a baby...so, increasing my odds, I am OK with!

AFM, waiting for that phone call to find out when we're transferring. I have a feeling with 5 strong embryo, its a 3 day. We did 3 day last time too because we only had 5 embryo. I was really hoping for 5 day transfers so they can see which are the best to transfer and have a hopefully higher chance. FX

 

[Hatethewait85]

CJ- I hope your levels keep doubling appropriately. Will you do anymore betas? Fx this one sticks around for awhile.

eveclo- I think you count ovulation as day 0. So your timing sounds right for Wed. I hope your thawed embies get back on track - will you get another update tomorrow? I am glad you have a spare though just in case you need it. ET is almost here!!

pisces- Hope your body cooperates and you O at a good time. Holidays do make it hard!! Can't believe you'll be doing another ET soon enough!

barbi- Have you gotten the verdict? Fx for 5-day transfer!! Sending lots of growing vibes to your embabies!

AFM- Stark white hpt last night and BFN on the labs today. I've been crying off and on since last night. Slept like crap. I hate this. I hate that I am broken and we don't know how to fix it. I have a wtf appointment on 4/17. Not sure if we are going to do another IVF or just give up on a biological child. I guess we will see what the doc says. May pursue NK cell testing but will have to consult another doc for this. I just don't know what to do anymore. This was supposed to be it. This was supposed to be the one that stuck.

 

[eveclo]

CJ- I hope your levels keep doubling appropriately. Will you do anymore betas? Fx this one sticks around for awhile.

eveclo- I think you count ovulation as day 0. So your timing sounds right for Wed. I hope your thawed embies get back on track - will you get another update tomorrow? I am glad you have a spare though just in case you need it. ET is almost here!!

pisces- Hope your body cooperates and you O at a good time. Holidays do make it hard!! Can't believe you'll be doing another ET soon enough!

barbi- Have you gotten the verdict? Fx for 5-day transfer!! Sending lots of growing vibes to your embabies!

AFM- Stark white hpt last night and BFN on the labs today. I've been crying off and on since last night. Slept like crap. I hate this. I hate that I am broken and we don't know how to fix it. I have a wtf appointment on 4/17. Not sure if we are going to do another IVF or just give up on a biological child. I guess we will see what the doc says. May pursue NK cell testing but will have to consult another doc for this. I just don't know what to do anymore. This was supposed to be it. This was supposed to be the one that stuck.

Noooooooo
I am so so so sorry to hear this. Please don't feel alone though, I know it's just a matter of time. Definitely have a chat to your doctor. Is NK cell testing the 'killer cells'? I hope you find an answer that helps you make a decision. So many hugs right to you, i have been seriously thinking of you the last few days so you weren't short of any positive vibes my way


Yes. Ill call today for an update but they sound like crappy embryos!! I think we just have really crappy ones, because even our last FET only grew from 8 cells to 9 cells over night and then to a morula. I'm counting on that one blast but none of our other embryos have stuck and they were supposed to be the 'good ones'. We are already planning another fresh maybe we can be cycle buddies again HTW?

Come on future babies, your mummy's / mommy's have had enough of waiting for you!! xx

 

[barbikins]

HTW, that breaks my heart. I so dearly know how you're feeling. I'm with you on that. Will you consider a fresh cycle?!

Yes, got the verdict after I had to hunt someone down. I think someone dropped the ball to phone me. I'm going in on Thursday for my ET! 5-day embie.

I've been searching on Pinterest on IF shit and came across this. So fucking true.

 

[Cjohnson13]

Oh htw I'm so sorry!! Message me if you want to. talk

 

[Allie2009]

HTW so sorry about the Neg bloods Just take some time to think about things. We are unsure about what to do if this FET doesn't work. We are using our last two...so fresh would be all we can do. It was hell on me and everyone around me. I was a total B..lol so bad I didn't want to be around me...

I have blood work in the AM to see what time we will go in on Thursday. So hoping this one will work for us. Good luck to all hoping the best for us all!!!

 

[Allie2009]

HTW so sorry about the Neg bloods Just take some time to think about things. We are unsure about what to do if this FET doesn't work. We are using our last two...so fresh would be all we can do. It was hell on me and everyone around me. I was a total B..lol so bad I didn't want to be around me...

I have blood work in the AM to see what time we will go in on Thursday. So hoping this one will work for us. Good luck to all hoping the best for us all!!!

 

[eveclo]

Embryologist updates this morning say our 3 cell (frozen at 8 cell) is still a 3 cell. So no growth at all. Our 5 cell (also originally frozen at 8 cell) is now 7 cell, so at least it shows it is growing. It looks as though the 3 cell will probably be not great enough for transfer tomorrow, so please keep me in your thoughts and hope that our 7 cell starts to multiply and grow into a strong embie! We are going to talk to the dr this afternoon about possibly defrosting our 6BB 6 day blastocyst, and transferring that tomorrow. I thought it was a 5 day but apparently it's a 6 day. And I'm pretty sure that grading '6' is hatching. Hmm. Confidence down again today. Feeling sorry for those embryos. Hehe.

Barbi; love the meme! So true. I was so naive thinking it were to work first go. Human bodies are so weird!

 

[barbikins]

eveclo, I'm rooting for you. What a stressful situation. I agree if your 7 cell doesn't get better, get that embie out of the freezer! A 6-day is fantastic!

things went a bit of a different turn today. unexpected everything.
i got a call this AM to come in for a day 3 transfer instead of Thursday for a day 5.
RE said today that the leading two were growing a head a bit so they wanted to transfer it today.
And then, the 3 which are left will stay in the incubator & hope to grow all or some to day 5 for freezing. Wow, that makes me so nervous. He doesn't want to risk freezing them & then not growing after thawing. Those three are Grade 3 embryo. The two we transferred today were 2. I am worried now, my embies aren't good. Like smth is not right w/my eggs or smth. He said as of today, he still considers this a tubal issue but if these fail, we have to consider some thing more.
I had hoped we would have all these FET we could do down the line. And DH wanted this to be the last Retrieval. So you can imagine how I'm really nervous. I went from excited to deflated this week.
And now the wait to hear about those three embryo. Yeah, not stressful at all.

 

[Hatethewait85]

Allie- Fx this one is successful so you don't have to worry about figuring out next steps! Did you find out when you'll go in on Thursday? GL!

Barbi- That's so great you'll do a 5-day ET!! Your embies must be doing great!! Will you get another update today? Grow, embies, grow! Also, I love that pic you found on pinterest. So true! Grrrr

Eveclo- Can't believe you go in today? tomorrow? (it's only Tuesday here). It is too bad your one embie didn't survive the thaw real well. I hope if they need to use your blast it thaws perfectly. Would they push your ET back a day then since a 6-day?

AFM- Thanks for the support ladies. I am completely devastated with the results. I'm not sure I'm strong enough for another round of IVF. It's hard to remain positive after all of this. You guys are much braver, stronger than I am and I admire you!! Every time I think I've decided what to do, I get pulled the other direction again. So frustrating. My hubby is the same. I think we are both having a hard time grasping at the fact we may never have a biological child but also ready to move on from the emotional heartache of IVF/lttc. Another thing weighing on my mind is that through this whole process I've had to forgo treatment for a medical condition of mine - the medications used to treat it are contraindicated during pregnancy. So I need to decide how much longer I should risk going without treatment. No easy answer I guess. For now, I'll hold off on deciding anything until meeting with the doc on the 17th. Perhaps it will provide me some clarity.

Regardless, I'm still here rooting you all on!!!! I hope this month is YOUR month. We definitely need some positive and happy news on this thread.

 

[Hatethewait85]

Oh no Barb! I didn't see the change in plans until after I posted. BIG ((HUGS)). That would be so nerve wracking. It's good that you got the leading embies back in their home sooner rather than later though. I really hope they stick around for awhile. What an f'ing roller coaster this is. My doc mentioned egg quality issue to me too after my first failed FET. My embies weren't great either. I wish there was a way to test this.

FX for good news with the rest of your embies. Will they call you later today or tomorrow? I know easier said then done, but try to stay relaxed today - watch a funny movie or read a good book.