February IVF Buddies!! 2nd Cycle. FET

[BabyDancing13]

Its a busy week & last week was as well. Too much to get done ASAP and while BNB is a wonderful distraction & I"d rather be here, I need to disconnect. BOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! I've been naughty & was putting things on the back burner & now it's catch up time! AHHHHH
I can't wait to have more slack time to chat with you girls all day LOL

I had a few drinks this weekend but to be honest, I've not been craving alcohol much at all. I find when I am most stressed, I want the booze but other wise I'm slightly turned off? Which is good now that we're TTC. Anyway yes I hope this was it & I will not drink booze for a year! YIKES!

I had my transfer yesterday. I only had to defrost one embryo thankfully so I have 3 left! I am hoping we don't need to use them, of course!
It's an 8 cell, 3 day embryo if that means anything to you ladies Anyway now I'm in the awful two week wait! Although I plan to start testing this weekend.
It seems woman going through IVF get really early results. Much earlier than the norm!

The PIO shots are going. My husband does them for me so that makes it easier on me. However, they do cause as sore ass. I have lumps in my ass & it feels mega bruised. I did them last month too & some days it was just SO bad. But I'll do anything if it means the best success rate. It could be worse, you know?

Congrats on being PUPO! You have had the fastest cycle I have ever read. Really keeping everything crossed for you xx

 

[tulip1975]

Barb - that was so fast! That is wonderful that you did not have to wait. I'm glad they were able to only thaw one embryo. I hope this one is the sticky one!

 

[pisces78]

Good to hear the updates girls, and congrats on PUPO Barbs will keep my fx! Barb you will be testing POAS this weekend?

I also had a glass of wine and a lovely cocktail with a night out in the city for valentines day! First time I have had drinks since December! I felt a little guilty! Also, had a real coffee too after giving up caffeine! So, getting all the vices this month!

Interesting to hear that both your FE have you taking steroids, I have autoimmue issues with hypothyroidism and my FE has given me no treatment for this. I have my WTF appointment on Monday and will be insisting he treats me for my immune issues, if it can't hurt I don't see why he can't treat me for this! Sometimes I feel I don't have any control of this process! Are your FE willing to allow you input into your treatment?

 

[Hatethewait85]

Congrats barbikins on being PUPO!!

That is great they only needed to thaw 1. I hope this is THE one! And as much as it stinks, I hope you are forced to keep on with those PIO shots for several more weeks!

It's too bad work has to be so crazy busy BUT the plus side is that it will help the 2ww fly by! I'm looking forward to hearing about your testing this weekend, too. I tested early with my last FET and seeing the BFN made it sooo hard to keep up with the meds. So I am not planning to test early this time... but who knows if I'll change my mind again!

 

[Hatethewait85]

Good to hear the updates girls, and congrats on PUPO Barbs will keep my fx! Barb you will be testing POAS this weekend?

I also had a glass of wine and a lovely cocktail with a night out in the city for valentines day! First time I have had drinks since December! I felt a little guilty! Also, had a real coffee too after giving up caffeine! So, getting all the vices this month!

Interesting to hear that both your FE have you taking steroids, I have autoimmue issues with hypothyroidism and my FE has given me no treatment for this. I have my WTF appointment on Monday and will be insisting he treats me for my immune issues, if it can't hurt I don't see why he can't treat me for this! Sometimes I feel I don't have any control of this process! Are your FE willing to allow you input into your treatment?

Enjoy the booze and the caffeine while you can!!! Hopefully we are all on a restriction soon.

I really love my fs because she lets me ask a lot of questions and is open to a lot of my suggestions/opinions on things. I don't know if it has anything to do with the fact that I work in a health care field or not but I have a feeling that she'd be like that with anyone. She suffered with infertility and underwent all the treatments and was never able to carry a pregnancy to term so I think she gets how desperate we are feeling and understands or crazy desire for this to work. I had a wtf appointment after my last transfer and we agreed to change a lot of things because of that conversation. There's not a lot of strong evidence to any of the changes we made but the risks of the changes are pretty small and worth it to me to try something different. So I am totally grateful my fs is open to all of that! I hope you find that your doc is the same way at your appointment next week. Let us know how it goes!!

 

[barbikins]

Hey girls! Thanks for the well wishes. I went from feeling like this is it to nada. I am nervous :S yes I plan to start testing this weekend! Got tests left over from last month. Yes, lucky for me I didn't have to wait very long t all. And the time flew. It's too bad the TWW doesn't fly in the same manner. However, I am so buy these days so it should help.

@hatethewait, when I knew I wasn't preggers I felt like an idiot to keep up with the drugs. It felt like a slap in the face. But what can you do?! My RE has me come in two weeks after transfer and that's like 17dpo. I think it's an overkill.

I am so nervous girls. I want this so badly and I'm afraid of another failed cycle.

 

[Hatethewait85]

Hey girls! Thanks for the well wishes. I went from feeling like this is it to nada. I am nervous :S yes I plan to start testing this weekend! Got tests left over from last month. Yes, lucky for me I didn't have to wait very long t all. And the time flew. It's too bad the TWW doesn't fly in the same manner. However, I am so buy these days so it should help.

@hatethewait, when I knew I wasn't preggers I felt like an idiot to keep up with the drugs. It felt like a slap in the face. But what can you do?! My RE has me come in two weeks after transfer and that's like 17dpo. I think it's an overkill.

I am so nervous girls. I want this so badly and I'm afraid of another failed cycle.

2 weeks after transfer is way long to wait! I can totally understand testing early. I didn't go in until '15dpo' with my last FET but I think that was because they didn't want to test on the weekend.

I so hope this is it for you!! Stick lil bean, stick!

 

[Hatethewait85]

Bad news. Lining not triple layer today.

Given the option of continuing meds 5 more days and checking again or taking provera to shed lining and having a hysteroscopy. Opted to have hysteroscopy.

I am so freakin frustrated with my body!!!! I can't decide if I want to punch a hole in the wall or cry or do both!

 

[pisces78]

So, sorry for you HTW must be so frustrating!! You had such a promising start! What made you make the decision to not take more meds?What will the hysteroscopy do for you? Are they looking for something?

 

[eveclo]

I hope you don't mind me joining! I did my first Ivf in December and transferred one 3 day embryo, and got a BFN. I am on cycle day 3 now of my FET cycle, it's a natural one so we are just blood test monitoring until we get a positive and then 5 days later will be transferring another one embryo (5 day this time). I'm not allowed to transfer 2 embryos until I have 2 failed transfers. So if this month doesn't work next month it's 2!

 

[Hatethewait85]

Barbikins- Have you tested yet?? Hoping for good news from you!!!

Eveclo- Hi! Glad to hear you are underway for your FET. When's your first blood test? Do they do a lining check too?

Pisces- When do you expect AF so you can get started on your FET?

We decided to stop the meds because I'd already gone 2 days longer with meds than I did with my last FET so I didn't think more time should really be necessary. Also, I asked my fs what she'd do (she had fertility issues and ultimately ended up adopting) and she said she'd do the hysteroscopy, too. I figure we don't know why things aren't working so why not get another look and maybe find a reason? If anything she said she can take some biopsies which may help with blood flow/plump up the lining. As my fs says, 'go big, or go home' and since this is my last embie I want to go big!!

 

[barbikins]

Hey Love,

I did test today at 7dp3dt and got a stark white.
I am getting very nervous I won't get a positive this month.
I'm totally convinced I'm not pregnant now It's so hard.

I'm sorry about your lining. I'm glad you are offered a next step to see what's going on. I was supposed to do a hysteroscopy but we didnt b/c wasn't high priority. I'm curious to know how the experience goes. Keep me posted!

 

[barbikins]

I hope you don't mind me joining! I did my first Ivf in December and transferred one 3 day embryo, and got a BFN. I am on cycle day 3 now of my FET cycle, it's a natural one so we are just blood test monitoring until we get a positive and then 5 days later will be transferring another one embryo (5 day this time). I'm not allowed to transfer 2 embryos until I have 2 failed transfers. So if this month doesn't work next month it's 2!

Welcome, hun & sorry for your failed cycles's. I'm on my second IVF (FET) first was fresh. And I am starting to wonder if this is a fail, do we try for two embies next month? Problem is, I don't want to risk multiples.

 

[pisces78]

Hi Girls,

Welcome eveclo! My first fresh failed in Feb and I will also be doing a natural FET with blood tests and poas ovulation tests next month. Let us know how your progressing!

Barbikins Hope your feeling ok hun, such a stressful period, could it be a late implanter, I did hear that FET can often be late implantations?

HTW: Hopefully, you will get some answers and you can move forward asap! When will you be doing the procedure?

AFM: I had my WTF appointment yesterday, my FE does not believe in any autoimmune issues with implantation or any additional supplements with IVF. As long as I'm on my medication for hypothyroidism it should not affect pregnancy. Though he has give me and DH a further blood test to test our karotypes to see if we have a normal chromosome makeup (99% chance that it is fine). Also, found out we have 3 embies which are 8-cell which are good quality and 2 average quality, one embie with 5 cell and one embie with 11 cell for day 3. They will try FET with the 8-cell embies first. As you can't tell much from one fail, we will proceed with another 2 FET and if they both fail, I will have further tests for blood clotting issues, I think other immune diseases, and a uterine biopsy to test for infection or inflammation. So, at least I have a plan of action now. I didn't ask about multiple transfers as my DH does not want to risk multiples. So, now till AF begins around 10 march to start the process of 1st FET!

 

[barbikins]

Were you advised to use Baby Asprin during your IVF?
I'm on it this cycle. Not sure why not last cycle but it does help with implantation apparently & helps thin the blood so no clotting. I am hoping some how this helps things for me. Even though I dont seem to have lining issues.
I have done research & most likely any IVF issues are going to be some 80-90% an egg quality problem.
This is my first FET (second IVF) and we have three more Grade 3 embies. My first fresh was a Grade 2. This FET was a grade 3 8 cell. Apparently that's good.
It's all over my head. Either you will get pregnant or not I say LOL

Thanks love, well I'm hanging in there becasue it can still happen.
It just makes me so incredibly frustrated when I see photos of woman at the same dpt as me with bfps!

 

[eveclo]

I hope you don't mind me joining! I did my first Ivf in December and transferred one 3 day embryo, and got a BFN. I am on cycle day 3 now of my FET cycle, it's a natural one so we are just blood test monitoring until we get a positive and then 5 days later will be transferring another one embryo (5 day this time). I'm not allowed to transfer 2 embryos until I have 2 failed transfers. So if this month doesn't work next month it's 2!

Welcome, hun & sorry for your failed cycles's. I'm on my second IVF (FET) first was fresh. And I am starting to wonder if this is a fail, do we try for two embies next month? Problem is, I don't want to risk multiples.

It's a hard question, the 2 embryo thing... The way I see it is, if I am struggling to have just one embryo attached (with a fresh and a FET) I'd rather give myself the best chance possible to have at least one stick! But you definitely have to think whether multiples would be right for you and your family. Such a hard choice. A lot of ladies say only transfer the amount of embryos you are comfortable raising. I am going to do 2 next time (after this FET if it is unsucessful) just because we have discussed it and its the best option for us. But that's not the same as everyone is it hehe

Is anyone here using accupuncture? I went and had my first session yesterday and it was really good! I'm not sure how much it can do for me- he said it increases blood flow etc but man it calms me down! I am grateful for just that one hour of me time to just relax and have a little rest.

Cycle day 4 now- so blood test on the 3rd and then just wait for ovulation! I'm so excited. Hopefully it's all of our turns ladies!

 

[Hatethewait85]

Barbi- So sorry about the bfn It's still early though! I remember someone from another thread had a BFN at 6dp5dt and BFP on 6dp6dt so you are definitely not out yet! Will you continue to test each day? Why did they want you to get a hysteroscopy? I'm quite nervous for some reason but will definitely keep you updated.

Pisces- I'm glad you got the 'next steps' stuff figured out. I always feel good to have a game plan in place. What happens if your karyotype testing comes back problematic? Would you have to do pgd on your embryos in the future? Sounds like you have some good waiting for a nice warm home. I hope you don't have to go through the other work-up! Just 2 weeks of waiting to go now. How are you passing the time? I'm going crazy right now waiting to get a move on... makes me think I need a hobby!!

eveclo- That's great that you liked the acupuncture! I've been doing it since October (when I decided to start the IVF process) and find it relaxing too. Like you said, it's supposed to help with blood flow and lining but I'm not sure. Either I am really messed up or it really doesn't help lining as much as I thought since the lining issue got worse for me this FET! I even did extra acupuncture sessions this time to help! So who knows I bought a package and have 4 or 5 more sessions left and then I'm not sure if I'll keep going. It's so expensive!!

AFM- just waiting for the provera to kick in. Tomorrow's my last day. Starting to have some cramping today so maybe things will get moving by tomorrow. If so, I'll start bcp on Thursday. I was expecting to hear from my clinic today on scheduling the hysteroscopy but no word. I guess I will call them tomorrow afternoon if I haven't heard from them. It is really making me anxious not to know when. My hubby is having surgery on 3/20 and I'm hoping to be well on my way to FET 2.1 by then!

 

[eveclo]

Barbi- So sorry about the bfn It's still early though! I remember someone from another thread had a BFN at 6dp5dt and BFP on 6dp6dt so you are definitely not out yet! Will you continue to test each day? Why did they want you to get a hysteroscopy? I'm quite nervous for some reason but will definitely keep you updated.

Pisces- I'm glad you got the 'next steps' stuff figured out. I always feel good to have a game plan in place. What happens if your karyotype testing comes back problematic? Would you have to do pgd on your embryos in the future? Sounds like you have some good waiting for a nice warm home. I hope you don't have to go through the other work-up! Just 2 weeks of waiting to go now. How are you passing the time? I'm going crazy right now waiting to get a move on... makes me think I need a hobby!!

eveclo- That's great that you liked the acupuncture! I've been doing it since October (when I decided to start the IVF process) and find it relaxing too. Like you said, it's supposed to help with blood flow and lining but I'm not sure. Either I am really messed up or it really doesn't help lining as much as I thought since the lining issue got worse for me this FET! I even did extra acupuncture sessions this time to help! So who knows I bought a package and have 4 or 5 more sessions left and then I'm not sure if I'll keep going. It's so expensive!!

AFM- just waiting for the provera to kick in. Tomorrow's my last day. Starting to have some cramping today so maybe things will get moving by tomorrow. If so, I'll start bcp on Thursday. I was expecting to hear from my clinic today on scheduling the hysteroscopy but no word. I guess I will call them tomorrow afternoon if I haven't heard from them. It is really making me anxious not to know when. My hubby is having surgery on 3/20 and I'm hoping to be well on my way to FET 2.1 by then!

It sure is expensive! I wish they offered a package! One session is $90 and I pay $60 after my health fund pays a bit. But that was the first session apparently the second is $70 so I will only pay $50 or something like that. We'll see. Hehe.

I'm just hoping it can help me relax because technically the reason we weren't conceiving was because of my DP (DH as of Saturday) has low count, mobility and motility. So I was a bit disappointed that it didn't work first go, but they say a couple with no issues trying naturally can take up to 6 months so I'm just pretending its just months of natural cycles (just bloody expensive, not so sexy ones haha)

So we just have to keep on keeping on!!

It would be so nerve wracking for you just waiting to hear when you need to go have your test done! I hope it gives you some insight. What does a hysteroscopy detect ? (I might google this actually)

 

[barbikins]

@eveclo - I am starting to think along your lines. If this IVF fails then I'm going into my third IVF. How am I so fertile I can implant two? Really? I'm doubtful. But it's a good point to consider transferring as many as you're willing to raise. It's so tough!!! My RE says most woman only have a singleton with a two embryo transfer. But then again, it's happened when it's the last attempt & all of them take!

@HTW - Yes I continue to test multiple times a day LOL I hope I am still in the running & a bfp will POOF! Appear! My doc wanted to do the test so he could see with his own eye (not through ultrasound) that there wasn't some thine amiss. I am healthy & yet not getting pregnant. We know now my tubes were blocked & I removed them so we never got around to it because he wasn't very concerned, just thought 'may as well' and actually we were supposed to do it the day of my surgery but he couldn't b/c he perforated my uterus. Blurg. So anyway, we just left it as is.

I did try acupuncture for a long time but didn't really help. I wanted acupuncture for my first IVF and my practitioner told me that he decided he can't be at the appointment. I was pissed. But what ever, moving on.

 

[pisces78]

Good to hear everyone updates!

Barbikins: keeping my fx for you! No FE didn't even recommend baby aspirin! So, I guess will wait and see, though I suppose I could just take it myself, it couldn't hurt could it? What is the dosage amount of aspirin you take each day? When do you start taking it before ET or after ET?

HTW: Yes, if the karotype comes back abnormal I guess pdg would be the next step. Yes, 2 weeks to go and going crazy waiting, googling everything I can, as on holidays, so have this extra time on my hands to drive myself crazy! Have my mum staying with us for the last week and she has really being supportive, already have a good cry with her, thinking negative about this whole process and I guess my head is starting to think what if this never happens for us, and on top of this going on FB and seeing another couple now who are older than me having their 2nd child, and other friends showing off pictures of their baby bumps!! Ahhh! I'm never going on FB again!! It's so hard to keep picking yourself up again and think, yes I failed this time but it could work next time! You have to be sooo brave!

Eveclo: My partner also have morphology issues, count is fine, motility fine. My poor DH even went to acupuncture for 3 months and took horrible tasting chinese herbs twice a day to try and improve his sperm parameters! After the 3 months everything improved but his morphology!!! So, then we went to ICSI, did you think of putting your DH onto acupuncture to try and treat his sperm issues?