February IVF Buddies!! 2nd Cycle. FET

[Allie2009]

Didnt get one in at work today...stoping by the store on the way home for a few more test...

 

[Hatethewait85]

ugh. I typed up a nice long response and my computer ate it. grrrr

Alie- Congrats on your BFP!!! I hope you get good news on your Beta on Monday!

Barbi- It's soooo good to see your lines progressing good on your blog!! I really hope you get a great beta result on Monday. I'm keeping my fx cross for a sticky bean or two for you. I agree that's probably premature to say my eggs are bad since I've only had 2 FETs. My doc is just preparing me for the worst. I'm a very practical person and given my lack of a BFP ever (not even a chemical to speak of) it's certainly something I should prepare for. But I'm not ready to give up on my eggs yet I've decided. My doc is of course open to trying another IVF with a different protocol but I'm going to wait a bit before going through it all again. I really like my RE and am hesitant to change docs, but I am trying to get an appointment with a reproductive immunologist to get another opinion and run some autoimmune tests to rule that out (or in) as a cause. I live in the US - Wisconsin to be exact so Chicago (where the RI is) is pretty convenient.

eveclo- Thanks for sending some positivity my way. I think it worked- I'm feeling a bit better and actually haven't cried randomly in a few days! Have you tested again? I keep hoping to hear good news from you! I hope another fresh cycle isn't in your future. I'm glad you are able to keep fighting though- you'll make an excellent mom!! Have you ever talked to your doc about NK cells? I hope your doc is open to checking them if that's what you want. I hope you don't have to 'apply' like I do for testing!!

CJ- So good to get an update from you! I hope your scan on Monday shows more progression. Fx!!

Pisces - good luck for ET tomorrow! (I hope I got the right day!)

AFM- I'm feeling a bit more optimistic the last couple of days, although I do catch myself feeling down randomly. We are tough people though!! I met with my acupuncturist last night to discuss things- my husband came too. She's been trying to get me on herbs since I started but my fs said no to herbs (and so did I at first). But since western medicine has failed me miserably, I'm willing to give TCM more of a chance. I'm not really sure what I'm getting into and I hate that it's hard to research these herbs she wants to use, but I'm going to just trust the process. So for the next couple of months at least I'll be doing herbs/acu and TTC naturally. My hubs is going to try acupuncture too. My hope is to do another fresh cycle of IVF in August or so. My acupuncturist says some people need a year(!!!) of herbs/acupuncture but then ultimately conceive on their own so I guess we'll see. I've submitted my paperwork for the immunologist and my records were mailed yesterday so hopefully I'll hear from them in the next 1-2 weeks and that I'll 'qualify'. After using meds/ART for the last 1+ year it will be weird to be on my own!! I'll just be hoping for a miracle in the meanwhile.

 

[eveclo]

ugh. I typed up a nice long response and my computer ate it. grrrr

Alie- Congrats on your BFP!!! I hope you get good news on your Beta on Monday!

Barbi- It's soooo good to see your lines progressing good on your blog!! I really hope you get a great beta result on Monday. I'm keeping my fx cross for a sticky bean or two for you. I agree that's probably premature to say my eggs are bad since I've only had 2 FETs. My doc is just preparing me for the worst. I'm a very practical person and given my lack of a BFP ever (not even a chemical to speak of) it's certainly something I should prepare for. But I'm not ready to give up on my eggs yet I've decided. My doc is of course open to trying another IVF with a different protocol but I'm going to wait a bit before going through it all again. I really like my RE and am hesitant to change docs, but I am trying to get an appointment with a reproductive immunologist to get another opinion and run some autoimmune tests to rule that out (or in) as a cause. I live in the US - Wisconsin to be exact so Chicago (where the RI is) is pretty convenient.

eveclo- Thanks for sending some positivity my way. I think it worked- I'm feeling a bit better and actually haven't cried randomly in a few days! Have you tested again? I keep hoping to hear good news from you! I hope another fresh cycle isn't in your future. I'm glad you are able to keep fighting though- you'll make an excellent mom!! Have you ever talked to your doc about NK cells? I hope your doc is open to checking them if that's what you want. I hope you don't have to 'apply' like I do for testing!!

CJ- So good to get an update from you! I hope your scan on Monday shows more progression. Fx!!

Pisces - good luck for ET tomorrow! (I hope I got the right day!)

AFM- I'm feeling a bit more optimistic the last couple of days, although I do catch myself feeling down randomly. We are tough people though!! I met with my acupuncturist last night to discuss things- my husband came too. She's been trying to get me on herbs since I started but my fs said no to herbs (and so did I at first). But since western medicine has failed me miserably, I'm willing to give TCM more of a chance. I'm not really sure what I'm getting into and I hate that it's hard to research these herbs she wants to use, but I'm going to just trust the process. So for the next couple of months at least I'll be doing herbs/acu and TTC naturally. My hubs is going to try acupuncture too. My hope is to do another fresh cycle of IVF in August or so. My acupuncturist says some people need a year(!!!) of herbs/acupuncture but then ultimately conceive on their own so I guess we'll see. I've submitted my paperwork for the immunologist and my records were mailed yesterday so hopefully I'll hear from them in the next 1-2 weeks and that I'll 'qualify'. After using meds/ART for the last 1+ year it will be weird to be on my own!! I'll just be hoping for a miracle in the meanwhile.

Argh I hate when that happens!

I did a test on Thursday (8dp6dt) negative again and I've started sporting today so I've stopped progesterone and af is due today, so hopefully tomorrow ill get her & start meds Tuesday. Not loving the idea of surgery again, but we currently live in Brisbane, (Queensland capital city) which has our awesome clinic & we are due to move to a country town for DH's work at the end of June / start of July. So we want to do our fresh cycle here with our doctor that knows us and knows our situation, rather than go to a country clinic with less success rates etc. I assume I'll be on 150iu gonal f again, which got me 10 mature eggs last time & 5 embies. Hopefully at least one of them stick this time! We are hoping for a 2 x blastocyst transfer too. I will ask about NK cells but on the website of our FS site, it says investigations aren't made until 3 failed fresh cycles. As we may have just been unlucky with this one. I asked about PGN testing and she said 'save your pretty pennies, lets just get through the next round and see how we go because your both young and healthy we can do this !' Plus, testing is $3500 with no money back so if we can save on that I'd be happy. I might ask about Assisted hatching or something but again I think she will say just let it be.

Hehe, it's normal to have breakdowns every now and then, I think we would be robots if we didn't! This is our fight & the time will come. It's just such a big gamble. Xx

 

[eveclo]

I ended up getting full blown AF today! So blood test tomorrow & start meds Monday.

 

[Hatethewait85]

So sorry to hear about AF I can't believe how quick yours comes after progesterone! It took 4 days for mine to show up after stopping the progesterone this last time.

I hope everything looks good at your baseline scan tomorrow so you can get stims started. Sounds like it's a good idea to get in another fresh cycle before your move. You and your hubby are both very young so hopefully your doc is right! I'm keeping everything crossed tightly that your perfect embryo is here this time around. Keep me updated!!

 

[eveclo]

So sorry to hear about AF I can't believe how quick yours comes after progesterone! It took 4 days for mine to show up after stopping the progesterone this last time.

I hope everything looks good at your baseline scan tomorrow so you can get stims started. Sounds like it's a good idea to get in another fresh cycle before your move. You and your hubby are both very young so hopefully your doc is right! I'm keeping everything crossed tightly that your perfect embryo is here this time around. Keep me updated!!

It's crazy hey? She's usually always on time nf very persistent haha. I was on 400mg of progesterone this time too so I thought it would take longer but obviously not!

How are you going with everything htw? Just having some you time?

 

[eveclo]

Ladies, curious to know... When you did your fresh cycles, and had aspirin... When did you start / finish the aspirin ? Did you take it close to EPU? And how many mg's? Curious be because my dr doesn't do it but I thought why not as I have super low blood pressure..

 

[barbikins]

Defo HTW, don't give up & be persistent and I switched doctors myself and I'm so happy I did. My other RE didn't find my blocked, infected tubes. Can you imagine if we just kept trying on our own?! None the wiser?!
Anyway with all I've been through is tell you that it's a bit early to say go for a do or egg. Keep trying. It took me 4 cycles!

 

[Hatethewait85]

So sorry to hear about AF I can't believe how quick yours comes after progesterone! It took 4 days for mine to show up after stopping the progesterone this last time.

I hope everything looks good at your baseline scan tomorrow so you can get stims started. Sounds like it's a good idea to get in another fresh cycle before your move. You and your hubby are both very young so hopefully your doc is right! I'm keeping everything crossed tightly that your perfect embryo is here this time around. Keep me updated!!

It's crazy hey? She's usually always on time nf very persistent haha. I was on 400mg of progesterone this time too so I thought it would take longer but obviously not!

How are you going with everything htw? Just having some you time?

I've been doing ok. I know I'll be a mom at some point whether is to a child hubs and I create or to one we adopt. And even though we are taking a break from IVF, I feel good knowing we are still working on things to improve our chances with accupuncture and herbs. So nothing too exciting going on here. Hubs and I are taking this opportunity to get some house projects checked off the list and giving our pup lots of attention and lovin!

 

[Hatethewait85]

Ladies, curious to know... When you did your fresh cycles, and had aspirin... When did you start / finish the aspirin ? Did you take it close to EPU? And how many mg's? Curious be because my dr doesn't do it but I thought why not as I have super low blood pressure..

I didn't take aspirin with my fresh cycles. Only my FETs- and took 81mg. Careful with taking it before ER because it can make bleeding more likely. Takes about 7 days to get out of your system and decrease bleed risk.

 

[Hatethewait85]

Defo HTW, don't give up & be persistent and I switched doctors myself and I'm so happy I did. My other RE didn't find my blocked, infected tubes. Can you imagine if we just kept trying on our own?! None the wiser?!
Anyway with all I've been through is tell you that it's a bit early to say go for a do or egg. Keep trying. It took me 4 cycles!

It is such a good thing you switched REs. How terrible to keep trying with no hope not knowing your tubes were blocked! I will definitely try one more round, but I need a bit of a break. Hopefully I'll be feeling good to go forward in a few months. Thanks for helping me stay positive!!! Can't wait to hear beta results tomorrow

 

[eveclo]

Ladies, curious to know... When you did your fresh cycles, and had aspirin... When did you start / finish the aspirin ? Did you take it close to EPU? And how many mg's? Curious be because my dr doesn't do it but I thought why not as I have super low blood pressure..

I didn't take aspirin with my fresh cycles. Only my FETs- and took 81mg. Careful with taking it before ER because it can make bleeding more likely. Takes about 7 days to get out of your system and decrease bleed risk.

Thank you!!! Ill save it for the FET's x

 

[pisces78]

Hi girls,

Eveclo: Sorry, to hear about AF visit, good to hear your on your new fresh cycle already! So, things moving along nicely!

HTW: Good to hear your concentrating on you time and trying some new approaches.

Barbikins & Allie: Fx for you betas, I'm sure you will both get a nice high number! Then can move onto a happy and healthy 9 months!

ATM:Had embryo transfer, on Saturday with a different doctor, when placing the catheter I had intense pain, and blood again, I must have a kinky cervix! which has now happened 2 out of 3 transfers. I didn't complain but next time (hopefully, wont be a next time) I will def say something. Also, when I arrived I was told one of my 8-cell embryos had arrested so that was disappointing, so I have my last 8-cell embryo chance hopefully snuggling into my uterus now. I have only 2 average embryos left a 5-cell and a 11-cell which I'm not really holding up for much hope with. Not really feeling very positive about this cycle, I think learning that one of my embryos died really hit me for six, another lost chance. I have another counselling appointment tomorrow, so hopefully can help me feel abit more positive about this cycle!

 

[Allie2009]

Well my test haven't been getting any darker...I'm almost sure I'm having a CP.....I really thought this one would be it. I'm having blood work done in the morning and should know something by noon. I'll be lucky if my bloods are over 10. My test I did today was so faint you could hardly see anything on the test.
I'm unsure as to what our next steps will be. We just really need a miracle at this point. Anyone ever have a CP and only get faint lines?

 

[eveclo]

Well my test haven't been getting any darker...I'm almost sure I'm having a CP.....I really thought this one would be it. I'm having blood work done in the morning and should know something by noon. I'll be lucky if my bloods are over 10. My test I did today was so faint you could hardly see anything on the test.
I'm unsure as to what our next steps will be. We just really need a miracle at this point. Anyone ever have a CP and only get faint lines?

Oh... That's not good :/ I hope something comes up in your BT... Is the line still there at all? Or just staying the same light Colour?

Hoping for good news for you.

 

[barbikins]

Hi girls,

Eveclo: Sorry, to hear about AF visit, good to hear your on your new fresh cycle already! So, things moving along nicely!

HTW: Good to hear your concentrating on you time and trying some new approaches.

Barbikins & Allie: Fx for you betas, I'm sure you will both get a nice high number! Then can move onto a happy and healthy 9 months!

ATM:Had embryo transfer, on Saturday with a different doctor, when placing the catheter I had intense pain, and blood again, I must have a kinky cervix! which has now happened 2 out of 3 transfers. I didn't complain but next time (hopefully, wont be a next time) I will def say something. Also, when I arrived I was told one of my 8-cell embryos had arrested so that was disappointing, so I have my last 8-cell embryo chance hopefully snuggling into my uterus now. I have only 2 average embryos left a 5-cell and a 11-cell which I'm not really holding up for much hope with. Not really feeling very positive about this cycle, I think learning that one of my embryos died really hit me for six, another lost chance. I have another counselling appointment tomorrow, so hopefully can help me feel abit more positive about this cycle!

I"m sorry the results weren't what you'd hoped for. So you have two embryo from this fresh cycle that's going for freezing?
Hey I didn't do well either. Ended up with 1 5 day left & probably not an awesome blast but probably good enough to implant.
I looked at it as, better I didn't waste money & time & heart ache on embryo that weren't good enough for a 5 day transfer. It's a hard thing but you know we watched a webinar last week (DH & I) and the doctor said that maybe only half of eggs get fertilized & only around half of those embryo will actually make it to day 5. And that's for 20 some thing year olds too that are young & fertile. So really, our procreating odds aren't awesome to begin with. It made me feel a bit better to know that.
Counseling is a great idea. I did see a therapist for a while myself when I was struggling to keep my head above water.

 

[barbikins]

Allie, when I had a CP my lines got darker but then stopped getting darker at a certain point that seemed too soon & I was a bit concerned but wasn't sure what to make of it. MY beta was around 49 & then it went up a tiny bit and then up to around 70 and then dropped. I'm sorry to hear. Let us know of your Beta.

 

[Allie2009]

I took one last test last night and it was so faint you couldn't really see anything. My beta was neg this morning we go see the doctor in 3weeks to see what needs to happen next. Maybe he can tell us more then. I know I was pg, but it just couldn't hang on. We are completely heart broken. I don't know what we are going to do now. Guess we will cross that bridge when we get there.....

 

[barbikins]

Allie, did they give you an HCG number? Or just said Negative?

What is your IF factor?

 

[Allie2009]

She just said it was negative...and I didn't ask for a number.