fertility appt yesterday

[Beckic]

Hi

after waiting 6 months for it I had my second fertility appt. yesterday.

I started off annoyed cos the appt was at 4.00 - i had been nervous all day - couldnt sleep the night before and was on the loo most of the morning - and we didnt get seen till 5.50!!! AND the first thing the doctor said to me when I went in (bearing in mind this is a fertiltiy clinic) was 'so, you're not pregnant yet then' !!!!!! my DH thought I was going to kill him.

so i sat there with a face like thunder and he said my 2-3 day tests were fine so that cheered me up.

my DH's second sperm results came back as 131m count but 8% morphology (when they reccommend 15%). the doctor said he wasnt worried cos the count was so high BUT he wants him to have further more detailed tests to see the quality of the 8% - has anyone had any experience of this test - as I am not comforted by it. My DH is running around really proud of his 131m - but I am just stressing about the 8% - talk about seeing glases half empty!!

anyway - so then he said to me 'and we'll then go on from there with you after your husband has done hs test'. at which I went mad - there is a 6 month waiting list for appt. for the fertility clinic (which is only held on afternoon a week for the entire bloomin county) so there was no way I waiting that again.

so i started going on about the fact that we have been trying for 2.5 years with not a whiff of a bfp, that i have extremely light periods and that I have spotting from 10dpo. I said that from the research I had done i would like a laparoscopy and would like investigations into the spotting. AND i couldnt believe it when he got all embarressed and said 'okay then'. so now I have a laparoscopy and hysterogram (sorry not sure how to spell it) in two months time and then he said they will give me an ultrasound in my luteal phase to check my spotting.

i couldn't beleive it - and i couldn't beleive i can have the lap so soon - after everything I have said about the NHS - i forgive them.

I think going in there with knowledge isnt a bad thing!!

so on the one hand I am v v v v vhappy that things are moving on -I just need to know what is wrong with me - but also worried about my DH and my operation.

But all in all at least I now have a new focus so v releived.

any advice from those of you who have been here and doen this would be very much appreciated.

bx x x x x

 

[Sami]

Unfortunately I can't give you any advise, but I'm so glad everyting seems to be moving in the right direction for you

I think I might take some of your advise as I have had all my bloods done and had a scan but I am STILL waiting for the next stage...think I'll start getting a bit tougher

Thanks & good luck xx

 

[Mrs R]

Good for u hun!! Im waiting on my first app and will definately go in armed with some info if this is the way things work.

Can't really help with ur questions but just wanted to say good luck

 

[FJL]

First of all i'm so proud of you for putting your foot downa nd demanding more tests You go!!!!

Ok...i've had 2 laps and scheduled for a 3rd one next month. It is scary going in there, its only natural to be nervous. Basically after the general anaesthetic, you don't feel or remember a thing...you wake up with a drip on and hooked up to heart monitor...you feel a bit sore, a bit or AF cramping.

After you have something to eat and wake up a bit you can go home. You will be sore for 1-2 weeks and they'll give you pain killers to help. You will also be extrememly bloated for a good week and in this time they advise you not to do much - drive, lift, work etc.

For me, my first lap I was fine about about 4 days...my 2nd one took me almost 2 weeks to recover and I was in a lot of pain.

Now...the more advanced sperm test your DH is having. My DH has had 2 of these (and 3 regular lab ones) they're a lot more conclusive and don't be surprised if his count, motility and morpology is lower than usual with these tests because they're very strict with what is and isn't viable. They also check for things such as DNA damage, anti sperm antibodies and there is another one (probably more) that I can't think of but basically its sperm that can fertilize and egg but it is immature and pregnancies cannot go to term and eventuate in m/c.

Good luck with everything and let me know if you have anymore questions.

 

[Beckic]

First of all i'm so proud of you for putting your foot downa nd demanding more tests You go!!!!

Ok...i've had 2 laps and scheduled for a 3rd one next month. It is scary going in there, its only natural to be nervous. Basically after the general anaesthetic, you don't feel or remember a thing...you wake up with a drip on and hooked up to heart monitor...you feel a bit sore, a bit or AF cramping.

After you have something to eat and wake up a bit you can go home. You will be sore for 1-2 weeks and they'll give you pain killers to help. You will also be extrememly bloated for a good week and in this time they advise you not to do much - drive, lift, work etc.

For me, my first lap I was fine about about 4 days...my 2nd one took me almost 2 weeks to recover and I was in a lot of pain.

Now...the more advanced sperm test your DH is having. My DH has had 2 of these (and 3 regular lab ones) they're a lot more conclusive and don't be surprised if his count, motility and morpology is lower than usual with these tests because they're very strict with what is and isn't viable. They also check for things such as DNA damage, anti sperm antibodies and there is another one (probably more) that I can't think of but basically its sperm that can fertilize and egg but it is immature and pregnancies cannot go to term and eventuate in m/c.

Good luck with everything and let me know if you have anymore questions.

Thank you so much for replying sweetheart - when I know you have more than enough on your mind right now!!

OWWWWW the lap sounds painful. Is there any specific time in the cycle it should be done? - i take it not in the tww?

Crossing fingers my DH will be ok - he isnt going to handle it well at all if not. He is already moaning about having this one - he seems to have a metal block on the fact that he really should have morphology of at least 15% rather than the 8% and just keep going on about how he has a 131m count so theres nothing wrong with him so doesnt see why he has to have more tests. which is kinda annoying me - 131m is all well and good - but if they all have two bloomin tails they arent going anywhere!!!

God you have been through so much - I really hope Tueday results are good for you.

Bx x x x

 

[loopylew]

glad your getting somewhere hun, im gonna go in with that attitude when we go back if my luteal phase is still 7-9 days, i want proper tests doing. He just fobbed us off last time for 3 months but im not having that this time.

 

[CareBear]

Good on you for standing up for yourself, I too have noticed in the past that I get treated better if I go in armed with info and knowledge.

 

[FJL]

No worries at all sweetie

Other girls might tell you that their lap was fine and not really painful, I guess it depends on a few things such as how gentle they are, your pain threshold etc. They won't do it if you think you could be pg, so either get it done pre O and therefore TWW, or don't BD that month. I had my last one around CD 8. You can get it done once your period is over. My last one I had to cancel and change the date as AF came.

With DH's sperm, there are LOTS of things that can be tested for and I see where he is coming from because I used to think that the count was either high or low and nothing else mattered - boy was I wrong!!! So his motility is good?? With the morphology (my DH's is 1%) my FS described it to me as that the egg is a very picky thing! That the sperm up for consideration by the egg are kind of in a beauty pagent because the egg will only accept the best sperm possible! That means that they obviously have to be fast enough to get to and penetrate the egg (motility) and they have to look perfect (morphology) or the egg won't accept them! I was always told that the absolutel minimum required for morphology to fall pg naturally (if everything else is ok) is 5%, so the fact that he is above that is a good thing.

Is the next sperm test the big SCSA? In this one they check for lots of other things, some of which I mentioned in my last post. In this one they also give detailed info of the defects in the sperm (morpology) and for eg they will say that out of the 92% that aren't viable, 50% have head defects, 30% have mid section defects and 20% have tail defects. Its really quite interesting!!

Another thing with the lap, the recovery time is a really good excuse to park your butt on the couch and watch TV and DVDs for a week while you convince DH that he must wait on you hand and foot

 

[Beckic]

Thank you so much FJL - you should really write a book you know so much - what would we do without you!

His motility was 57% - the doctor said anything over 50% was good so I am hoping that is ok.

I am not sure of the name of the SA test - but it is much more detailed than the ones he has had before.
I know I shouldn't be mad at him - cos its a good thing he isnt stressing over the results (one of us is enough!!) but its just that he doesn't seem to want to go or in any rush to go - when I just want to know what we are up against ASAP.

AND yes - am definitely planning a good week of pampering!!!

Hope you are bearin up OK ahead of Tuesday.

Bx x x

 

[FJL]

You know with guys its a manly thing. I think they're so afraid of a bad result and if something is wrong they don't feel like a man. I know thats the case with my DH. So perhaps your DH is happy knowing his count is good and just wants to stay in that safe place, afraid that if the results come up bad that he will feel less of a man?

I'm ok but i'm pretty sure I know the result...I think levels have dropped off because POAS this morning and still BFN...probably better off that way since it would most likely be unviable. Thanks for thinking of me

 

[Beckic]

Oh sweetheart - of course I am thinking of you - I think we probably all are - I check on here everyday hoping for good news for you. You have gone through so much the last few weeks and I really pray you get some good news - cos otherwise life is just too cruel.
You should be so proud of yourself for how you have got through this - I think you are amazing.

Bx x x x x