GD support thread

How do they decide what your numbers should be? Here (well, at least my doctors with this pregnancy and last pregnancy) just tell me I need to be under 125 an hour after I eat!

I had a slip up this morning and had some cereal for breakfast, I'm sure my numbers are going to be CRAZY.
 
Yes, it's just the difference between the units of measurement we use. My targets are 6.0 fasting and 7.8 2 hours after a meal. I have been very good today and managed to stay within target, even though it is my birthday! Even had I nice meal out, and a couple of yummy Thorntons chocolates this evening. Poor hubby was very apologetic when he have me my birthday card - he bought it before I was diagnosed and didn't get chance to get a different one. It says 'happy cake day' on it! I don't mind - he felt guilty and promised me a cake day after the baby arrives, and a Patisserie Valerie just opened near us ...

Are you diet controlled?

I'm in the UK too and my 2 hour post meal is under 6.....it feels so mean at the moment!!!!!!!

Yes, I am diet controlled. From what I understand control with GD is actually tighter than with non-pregnant diabetics, so the targets are quite mean. Although, I have been told that they want me to test 1 hour post-meal as that is when the peak is, but if I really can't I should test at 2 hours, with a target of 7.0.
 
I find that if I think I've gone a bit ott and expect a high reading, a bit of activity can really do the trick. Even just a bit of cleaning up, or doing the washing, which I would have to do anyway. Or a short walk if you can manage it. Just getting up and doing something really seems to help.
 
One hour after meal I need to be below 8.0 or technically 7.8

That was my target with my daughter at a different hospital, I often wander what my numbers are like after an hour but I dont test because all my numbers get sent to the hospital direct from an app. on my phone so they would wander what they hell was going on!
 
That would be very confusing! But would be interesting to know. You could do one.
 
That would be very confusing! But would be interesting to know. You could do one.

I don't know if I want to know at this stage :wacko:

I know it is unreliable but I had to go to maternity assessment last night (long story) but 3 people measured my fundal height at 35cm which is spot on.

Last time I measured 4 weeks ahead at this stage, so maybe I feel a little bit more confident about my final growth scan on Monday.
 
Be confident. You don't know until you get there.

I'm running 3cm larger. Currently at 31cm, but I do find it so subjective.

Hope your ok x
 
Fundal height measurements are really subjective, and even scans aren't that accurate. One of the reasons I was tested for GD was that I was measuring 3cm bigger, but then the scan showed she's about midway between the 50th and 97th centiles, so completely normal. In fact, they wouldn't have tested me based on the scan, but I had had glucose in my urine sample several times and felt crappy, so they did. When I was pregnant with Hayden scans said he was on the 97th centile (bit scary for 5 foot nothing me!) but he turned out to be 8lb 2oz, so not that big really. Easy to say when I had a section, I suppose :haha:! Anyway, my point is it's all subjective until you get that baby out in the world and on a set of scales.
 
I would have been nervous to go to 40 weeks last pregnancy. I had her at 37 weeks and she was almost 8lbs! I can't imagine what a 40 weeker would have been!

Why do you ladies test at 2 hours instead of 1? I have to do mine at 1 hour after I get done eating.
 
I'm not sure why I do. The diabetes team I have told me every two hrs.
 
Basically there is no agreement across relevant national and international health bodies around threshold numbers and even testing criteria. As many in this thread have noticed, the way the GTT/OGTT test is administered, the instructions around fasting beforehand, and the timing of the test all varies widely.

For example, these are the different threshold numbers various relevant agencies use for GD diagnosis (and to some extent, target glucose range):
World Health Organization:
Fasting - 7.0 mmo/l (126mg/dl)
2 Hour post prandial - 7.8 mmo/l (140mg/dl)

American Diabetes Association:
Fasting - 5.3 mmo/l (95mg/dl)
1 Hour post prandial - 10.0 mmo/l (180mg/dl)
2 Hour post prandial - 8.6 mmo/l (155 mg//dl)

The National Diabetes Data Group:
Fasting - 5.8 mmo/l (105mg/dl)
1 Hour post prandial - 10.6 mmo/l (190mg/dl)
2 HOur post prandial - 9.2 mmo/l (165 mg/dl)

International Association of Diabetes in Pregnancy Group (IADPSG):
FAsting - 5.1 mmo/l(95 mg/dl)
1 HOur post prandial - 10.0mmo/l (180mg/dl)
2 Hour post prandial - 8.5 mmo/l (153 mg/dl)

The IADPSG threshold is what Canada has moved towards using over the past 2 years. Essentially though, there is NO consensus on diagnostic criteria and threshold numbers from one country (or sometimes even clinician) to the next.

In terms of target glucose numbers, some endocrinologists seem to recommend target numbers more in line with Type 2, non pregnancy diabetes - under 6.0 fasting, and under 8.0 2 hours post prandial. Most doctors seem to gravitate towards getting women into the range of the average glucose in pregnancy numbers that were discerned during the HAPO study (i've mentioned this study before, it looked at the average glucose numbers of over 25,000 women during pregnancy):
Fasting - 70-80mmol/3.9-4.4 mg/dl
1 hour after meal - 110-120mmol/6.1-6.7 mg/dl
2 hours after meal - 100-110mmol/5.5-6.1 mg/dl

There also seems to be a lack of consensus around which numbers to be more concerned about - fasting or 1-2 hour post prandial. In terms of post prandial numbers, some docs seem more concerned about how high you spike (1 hour number) versus your body's ability to control and decline from the spike (2 hour). It seems as though the biggest concern may be long term high blood glucose levels, which is why there is more concern with the 2 hour number in general (our BG rises within about 15 mins of eating and spikes after about 45 mins - so if it is still really high 2 hours later, that is very suggestive). So basically, there is a lot of fuzziness still around diagnosis and the target glucose range women should be aiming for during pregnancy. This should be *somewhat* reassuring though - there is no hard, definitive line where excessive glucose translates into a concrete negative outcome. Interestingly, I also noted (because I ended up with two blood glucose monitors) even the numbers we are finding during our tests can be off - my numbers were often as much as 1 mmo/l off between machines, and it wasn't always the same one giving the high number. When I asked the GD nurse if I could test my own numbers with the machines postpartum she said no....because the numbers they produce "are not reliable" :dohh:

Anyways, I hope that info helps!
 
Interesting information.

Well the doctors (GP) has stopped prescribing my testing strips as I'm not diagnosed with diabetes according to my note and blood work has come back normal. And I've had a 6month pack already!!

FFS. The hospital faxed it over 10wks ago. You have been dispensing for last 10wks. It's only because the hospital have asked me to test 6/7 times a day!!!
 
My doctor said today that basically they are less concerned about the 'spike' at one hour and more about the ability to bring it down and the general trend :thumbup:

Update from me - growth scan absolutely great. Baby just under 6lb and all measurements just under 50th centile. Normal fluid levels, excellent blood flow through the cord and a very healthy placenta.

If baby doesnt want to arrive beforehand I am being induced on the evening of 22 February very gently with a view to her arriving just before her due date.

I feel so happy, the past few weeks have been incredibly difficult but it all felt worth it today :flower:
 
So happy for you AP. I have my scan on Friday and hoping for the same results.

I've been discharged from the gd clinic but I still need to send in my numbers every two weeks. I guess they got sick of seeing all my fives and low sixes. Although this week after a few dinners I've been in the 7s.
I've heard 35 weeks is the worst for gd and then after 36 it slowly goes away. Is that true?
 

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