GMTV a Midwife says "promoting Breast Feeding is bad"

[x_Rainbow_x]

If i can i want to donate milk... for the poorly children in hospitals

 

[sparkswillfly]

I find some of the comments very upsetting.

On a whole I am pro breastfeeding, and I think more people should do it but I FF now and its not something I can change my mind about. Its done and I have to live with it so I realyl dont appreciate seeing things like formula should be a last resort as if its poison because there is nothing I can do about how my baby is fed now. Its too late. So comments like that just make my guilt ten times worse and I find it really upsetting.

 

[ryder]

I dont see anyone getting dirty looks here... I know when I first went to my baby group when Jasmine was 4 months, I did feel a twinge of embaressment and guilt because alot of moms were bfing. And our babygroup center also is a bfing center and there are alot of pro-bfing posters etc...

I dunno, I see lots of people in public doing both ffing and bfing.

There are a few things I've seen mentioned on the forum that strike me really well on how things are done across the pond. Like your post earlier saying that you get taught different methods. It just seems like a much better system.

I don't *think* as many people BF over here as they do in Canada. I'm sure someone posted the stats once. I've never actually seen anyone BF in public since I've had Niamh unless it's been on base. Never in town though.

Yes... maybe... but like I said, all of the support and info and why it does work so well here, is because people arnt forced into making dicisions... They are provided information and support on whatever they choose.

I work in a hospital, so I guess maybe the reason why I am so pro-choice is because of working in a non-discriminatory setting.

People seem to think im this huge anti-bfing person on this site, I totally am not. I just dont think people should be forced into it if they dont want to. I have lots of friends who bf, I have no prob being around them, heck the other day at babygroup one girl was bfing her baby and Jasmine tried to go over and climb up to see what was going on... It really doesnt bother me.

I hadnt planned on bfing, I did try it, and I tried it for about a month combined with formula and I just didnt like it. People who enjoy bfing, that is great for you.

 

[maybethistime]

asacia well done for contuing hun I think iw ould of give in alot sooner and some time when aaliyah fusses a bit to latch on i think about formula because I really enjoy it so thank u for sharing ur problems and how u over come them

 

[BlackBerry25]

I find some of the comments very upsetting.

On a whole I am pro breastfeeding, and I think more people should do it but I FF now and its not something I can change my mind about. Its done and I have to live with it so I realyl dont appreciate seeing things like formula should be a last resort as if its poison because there is nothing I can do about how my baby is fed now. Its too late. So comments like that just make my guilt ten times worse and I find it really upsetting.

I know, no one should be made to feel any guilt.

 

[redberry3]

I find some of the comments very upsetting.

On a whole I am pro breastfeeding, and I think more people should do it but I FF now and its not something I can change my mind about. Its done and I have to live with it so I realyl dont appreciate seeing things like formula should be a last resort as if its poison because there is nothing I can do about how my baby is fed now. Its too late. So comments like that just make my guilt ten times worse and I find it really upsetting.

I know, no one should be made to feel any guilt.

Agreed. And yet....7 months and I am still feeling the guilt everyday of my life.

 

[sparkswillfly]

I find some of the comments very upsetting.

On a whole I am pro breastfeeding, and I think more people should do it but I FF now and its not something I can change my mind about. Its done and I have to live with it so I realyl dont appreciate seeing things like formula should be a last resort as if its poison because there is nothing I can do about how my baby is fed now. Its too late. So comments like that just make my guilt ten times worse and I find it really upsetting.

I know, no one should be made to feel any guilt.

Agreed. And yet....7 months and I am still feeling the guilt everyday of my life.

Im glad Im not the only one. Every single day I feel bad about it. Like I have let her down. I guess thats why I have become so obsessed about the food shes going to eat. Feel like I have to get something right, and believe me I am obsessed. Checking the labels of everything!

 

[AppleBlossom]

When I stopped BFing we went round to Jason's stepmums who is one of those people that can never do any wrong and knows everything so I already felt intimidated by her (she told me one time that I shouldn't use wipes I should use cotton wool and water) and she asked about my BFing as she BFed as well and I said I had stopped and she sort of looked down her nose at me and just said "oh... right" and then ignored me. Jason was one of the people who forced me to do it in the first place because he idolised his step mum and she did it. I felt so crap about it for so long after I had been to hers

 

[sparkswillfly]

When I stopped BFing we went round to Jason's stepmums who is one of those people that can never do any wrong and knows everything so I already felt intimidated by her (she told me one time that I shouldn't use wipes I should use cotton wool and water) and she asked about my BFing as she BFed as well and I said I had stopped and she sort of looked down her nose at me and just said "oh... right" and then ignored me. Jason was one of the people who forced me to do it in the first place because he idolised his step mum and she did it. I felt so crap about it for so long after I had been to hers

my family were the complete opposite.

 

[Pyrrhic]

Same as Sam, my family didn't support me BFing.

I don't feel guilty at all for any of my parenting decisions, and I really don't think anyone should. Every child, and every parent is different. You do what is best for your child, you can't do any more than that.

 

[lesleyann]

I cannot name anyone in my family who BF'd but they all told me they was happy and at lest i could say i tried to do it, and thats from a complete FF family lol Also along this i found out OH had the very same problem as Lo at birth lol as to why he could not feed almost at all

 

[redberry3]

When I stopped BFing we went round to Jason's stepmums who is one of those people that can never do any wrong and knows everything so I already felt intimidated by her (she told me one time that I shouldn't use wipes I should use cotton wool and water) and she asked about my BFing as she BFed as well and I said I had stopped and she sort of looked down her nose at me and just said "oh... right" and then ignored me. Jason was one of the people who forced me to do it in the first place because he idolised his step mum and she did it. I felt so crap about it for so long after I had been to hers

my family were the complete opposite.

same...I was adopted therefore my mom only knew how to formula feed and how to schedule a baby based on that. all of her advice was from FF.

I kind of feel sorry for women like my mom, she wanted to hide the fact that her kids were adopted and we never told people until we were older and yet she probably went through the same sort of guilt trips from other moms when she FF because they didn't know she was not the biological mother. How sad.

 

[x_Rainbow_x]

i was both BF & FF i was a greedy moo and my mum couldnt keep up.. she had no choice, what can i say i was a porker as a baby lol

 

[asacia]

My Mum was a Breastfeeding Counsellor, which might explain my over-the-top pro-breastfeeding stance. In-laws all formula fed. They don't know I breast feed - as I expressed for so long, I hid the fact that I got LO to breastfeed.

 

[danni2609]

This is ridiculous...yet again theres an argument over BF and FF for gods sake its upto the parents to decide what way to feed their children and I think they should both be promoted equally in hospitals etc. I have FF both mine tryed BF'ing Izzy but couldnt get on with it so what im a bad person because I gave in and fed her Cow n Gate??

 

[sparkswillfly]

When I stopped BFing we went round to Jason's stepmums who is one of those people that can never do any wrong and knows everything so I already felt intimidated by her (she told me one time that I shouldn't use wipes I should use cotton wool and water) and she asked about my BFing as she BFed as well and I said I had stopped and she sort of looked down her nose at me and just said "oh... right" and then ignored me. Jason was one of the people who forced me to do it in the first place because he idolised his step mum and she did it. I felt so crap about it for so long after I had been to hers

my family were the complete opposite.

same...I was adopted therefore my mom only knew how to formula feed and how to schedule a baby based on that. all of her advice was from FF.

I kind of feel sorry for women like my mom, she wanted to hide the fact that her kids were adopted and we never told people until we were older and yet she probably went through the same sort of guilt trips from other moms when she FF because they didn't know she was not the biological mother. How sad.

My mum was adopted and I was looking through her adoption papers the other day and it was said she was fed cows milk from birth. This was in the 60's, and now we are told we arent meant to give dairy before 6 months and no cows milk to drink before 12 months. I find it strange that my mum managed to survive on cows milk alone.

 

[candeur]

I FF Seren from birth, and during the last 9months I've been made to feel so guilty for FF, but I absolutely refuse to anymore.
Some comments on this thread are just bang out of order, yes yes you are pro-breastfeeding, but why do you have to put people who make a different choice down? As long as your child is getting BF then what's the problem? Why does how other mothers chose to feed their child concern you? Next time I want to try breastfeeding, but if it doesn't work out I will go back to FF without being made to feel bad about it. FF is not a last resort, it's another option, whether you like it or not. It's a shame we can all just accept that we have different opinions and leave it at that. The reasons arguements like this start is because BF's always seem to want to force their very strong opinions on how breast is best, and how FF is inadequate which offends FF's and makes them feel like they need to defend themselves, and then it goes around and around but where does it end? Can't you understand that this is a forum for FF mums aswell, and most of them are have very strong feelings of guilt (which you shouldn't) and come here as a place for support, and help on all matters, and not to have that guilt fed with comments which TBH are pretty hard to swallow. I think empathy should be a key word here.

This thread simply started as a midwife on GMTV saying that more information needs to be given on how to FF safely. What is wrong with that? It's a completely valid point, there is so much to FF, not just how to prepare a bottle which can be read on the tin. As long as there are FF babies in the world, then information on how to do it safely should always be available.

The government is never going to get everyone in the UK to breastfeed, and everyone has different reasons, so there's no reason why those who FF shouldn't be provided with more support.

 

[Jem]

I FF Seren from birth, and during the last 9months I've been made to feel so guilty for FF, but I absolutely refuse to anymore.
Some comments on this thread are just bang out of order, yes yes you are pro-breastfeeding, but why do you have to put people who make a different choice down? As long as your child is getting BF then what's the problem? Why does how other mothers chose to feed their child concern you? Next time I want to try breastfeeding, but if it doesn't work out I will go back to FF without being made to feel bad about it. FF is not a last resort, it's another option, whether you like it or not. It's a shame we can all just accept that we have different opinions and leave it at that. The reasons arguements like this start is because BF's always seem to want to force their very strong opinions on how breast is best, and how FF is inadequate which offends FF's and makes them feel like they need to defend themselves, and then it goes around and around but where does it end? Can't you understand that this is a forum for FF mums aswell, and most of them are have very strong feelings of guilt (which you shouldn't) and come here as a place for support, and help on all matters, and not to have that guilt fed with comments which TBH are pretty hard to swallow. I think empathy should be a key word here.

This thread simply started as a midwife on GMTV saying that more information needs to be given on how to FF safely. What is wrong with that? It's a completely valid point, there is so much to FF, not just how to prepare a bottle which can be read on the tin. As long as there are FF babies in the world, then information on how to do it safely should always be available.

The government is never going to get everyone in the UK to breastfeed, and everyone has different reasons, so there's no reason why those who FF shouldn't be provided with more support.

well said x

 

[belladonna]

My mum was adopted and I was looking through her adoption papers the other day and it was said she was fed cows milk from birth. This was in the 60's, and now we are told we arent meant to give dairy before 6 months and no cows milk to drink before 12 months. I find it strange that my mum managed to survive on cows milk alone.

My mum did too- she was born slightly earlier though in 1955. Shes always been healthy and never overweight although she was underweight as a teenager/early 20's and had to drink 2 pints of full fat milk a day to keep her weight up!

 

[Logiebear]

Well look what you lot have done to my innocent thread! OMG! Some of you have no manners and I am quite shocked by it!

As regards my fp GMTV advertised the segment as a mw who was saying that being bf proactive was dangerous and a bad thing. When she came on she said the opposite. She said on the contrary she thinks that they should be pushing bfing as it is the best option but that parents who decide to ff they should be given advice and help on how best to do it.

My personal opinions are that in our country women have been told that they should be up and doing stuff, housework, shopping, cooking, cleaning etc instead of sitting down and concentrating on feeding their baby. Bfing in the early days is a very intensive thing and it's only when we relax and go with being a full time mum that our bodies do what they should do.

In the late 60's and 70's women's liberation told us that we should ff as it was an option which meant we could get up and carry on as before. Almost everyone I know who was a 70's baby was ff and that means our mums have no experience to pass down and there the support network for ffing falls down.

I see nothing wrong with ff, I have 3 kids who were 100% ff and they are never ill and very healthy. I have become very pro bfing and I'll tell you why; it helps give you a bond with your baby, it gives your baby the vital things that mother nature intended your milk for and it is so convenient. I have been through an extremely tough time to make it to 6 months and have had so many problems and overcome them all. That's why I am so passionate about it. I deserve to be, I don't make any one feel guilty for ff and any feelings of guilt come from within, not other people.

I hope this thread gets put to bed now as it has gone a bit far imo xxx