Goverment confirms scrapping NHS direct.

[Aidan's Mummy]

As for doctors being on call 24/7 I am really not sure I would feel comfortable with that. As if he has been at work all day and then has calls during the night. He will become tired and therefore mistakes can be made. Therefore NHS direct takes that strain
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[sequeena]

As for doctors being on call 24/7 I am really not sure I would feel comfortable with that. As if he has been at work all day and then has calls during the night. He will become tired and therefore mistakes can be made. Therefore NHS direct takes that strain
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There are usually several docs in one surgery isn't there? Mine has 4 and one that comes in from other surgeries now and again. I'm sure they got work out some sort of schedule x

 

[Aidan's Mummy]

The argument was your doctor saw you and he knew your medical history. So the other doctors wouldn't know that and have to pull it up on screen like NHS direct
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[Blah11]

I really like NHS24 I'm really disappointed that its going. I've only used it twice and both times I've been advised to take Amelie to out of hours at the hospital I think its really useful.


& Gone are the days where familys have the same GP from birth until the GP retires. Families move about these days too much for that. I don't like the idea of GPs being oncall 24/7 either.. they need a social life and have a family too you know.

 

[Blah11]

I dont think this 111 thing will stop people phoning ambulances anyway. People phone them for everything these days its not going to stop the fat bloke with indigestion thinking hes having a heart attack and ringinh 999.

 

[Aidan's Mummy]

I have a friend that works on the phones for 999 calls to the police and she has phone calls from people saying they have lost their phones

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[smokey]

The argument was your doctor saw you and he knew your medical history. So the other doctors wouldn't know that and have to pull it up on screen like NHS direct
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How thames doc works you have about 5 drs for each surgery and each surgery clubs together to cover an area, you may not see the same one each time but you can specify what dr you want to see if you want (there will always be at least one dr from your own surgey covering thames doc along with other dr's from other surgeys, they all take it in turns to run late surgery, call out and out of hours services, they also run a walk in centre 24/7 so if you can get there raather then them get to you and it so much quicker then going to a&e.
So yes the dr knows you and your medical needs because he will most likely have treated you in the past and will have access to your files, by the time he gets to you there isnt much he doesnt know about you.
In our area unless you specify you want to you dont always see the same dr, all drs in that surgery can treat you, I generaly have the same dr because he is a family friend but if I go with somthing personal I can see one of the lady drs iv seen a hundred times before.

 

[Blah11]

do you guys go to the docs all the time? Im hardly ever at the doctors so really, the docs in my surgery wouldnt have a clue about my medical history (not that I really have one anyway!)

 

[sequeena]

The last (and first time) I've had an ambulance called for me was back in April. It was just after my step father was arrested for sexually abusing me for 10 years. I was ok at first as I'd not told anyone (apart from my OH who only found out 1 year earlier) but one night when OH was working I decided to relax with one glass of wine.. which turned into a bottle. OH came home, we had a huge argument because I was drunk and NEEDED to tell someone what had happened but he didn't want to hear at that point as it was too much for him.

He walked out and I lost it. I went through 2 sets of kitchen knives before I realised what I was doing and was apparently covered in blood. OH came home because he 'knew' something was wrong and freaked out. Next thing I know there's police and paramedics in my living room - they wouldn't even let me go to the loo by myself. In the end I persuaded them that I wasn't trying to kill myself and I didn't need to go to hospital (they didn't take me because of that and because my cuts weren't very deep).

I can't tell you how terrible I felt the next day and am still embarrassed to this very day that they had to come out when they could have been somewhere else with someone who NEEDED their help.

Sorry for the TMI.

 

[Blah11]

I have a friend that works on the phones for 999 calls to the police and she has phone calls from people saying they have lost their phones

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is right! Idiots. Although my OH was going to dial 999 when his motorbike got stolen

 

[sequeena]

do you guys go to the docs all the time? Im hardly ever at the doctors so really, the docs in my surgery wouldnt have a clue about my medical history (not that I really have one anyway!)

I go once every month to get my anti depressants and so my doc (or docs depending on who I see) can check on my 'state of mind'

 

[Aidan's Mummy]

He probs panicked hun. Did he get it back?
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[Blah11]

He probs panicked hun. Did he get it back?
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Na! prob got burned in a field nearby

 

[Aidan's Mummy]

The last (and first time) I've had an ambulance called for me was back in April. It was just after my step father was arrested for sexually abusing me for 10 years. I was ok at first as I'd not told anyone (apart from my OH who only found out 1 year earlier) but one night when OH was working I decided to relax with one glass of wine.. which turned into a bottle. OH came home, we had a huge argument because I was drunk and NEEDED to tell someone what had happened but he didn't want to hear at that point as it was too much for him.

He walked out and I lost it. I went through 2 sets of kitchen knives before I realised what I was doing and was apparently covered in blood. OH came home because he 'knew' something was wrong and freaked out. Next thing I know there's police and paramedics in my living room - they wouldn't even let me go to the loo by myself. In the end I persuaded them that I wasn't trying to kill myself and I didn't need to go to hospital (they didn't take me because of that and because my cuts weren't very deep).

I can't tell you how terrible I felt the next day and am still embarrassed to this very day that they had to come out when they could have been somewhere else with someone who NEEDED their help.

Sorry for the TMI.

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[smokey]

I have a friend that works on the phones for 999 calls to the police and she has phone calls from people saying they have lost their phones

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is right! Idiots. Although my OH was going to dial 999 when his motorbike got stolen

exactly so now for this you can call 111 instead , saving resources for when they are truley needed and creating a service that didnt exist before

 

[Aidan's Mummy]

He probs panicked hun. Did he get it back?
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Na! prob got burned in a field nearby

Aww no. That is awful. And what is the point in it? Stupid people
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[sequeena]

The last (and first time) I've had an ambulance called for me was back in April. It was just after my step father was arrested for sexually abusing me for 10 years. I was ok at first as I'd not told anyone (apart from my OH who only found out 1 year earlier) but one night when OH was working I decided to relax with one glass of wine.. which turned into a bottle. OH came home, we had a huge argument because I was drunk and NEEDED to tell someone what had happened but he didn't want to hear at that point as it was too much for him.

He walked out and I lost it. I went through 2 sets of kitchen knives before I realised what I was doing and was apparently covered in blood. OH came home because he 'knew' something was wrong and freaked out. Next thing I know there's police and paramedics in my living room - they wouldn't even let me go to the loo by myself. In the end I persuaded them that I wasn't trying to kill myself and I didn't need to go to hospital (they didn't take me because of that and because my cuts weren't very deep).

I can't tell you how terrible I felt the next day and am still embarrassed to this very day that they had to come out when they could have been somewhere else with someone who NEEDED their help.

Sorry for the TMI.

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Thanks

 

[PeanutBean]

LOL at people saying others should get their facts straight when theirs are so clearly wrong.

1) NHS 111 has just started to be piloted in the NE and until that trial is completed no-one will know if or how it will work.
2) NHS 111 is the culmination of years of work so was started by Labour, presumably not with the intention the new government has of replacing NHS Direct but instead to alleviate pressure on the ambulance network.
3) NHS 111 is a health line, nowhere have I seen it stated as to be used for police or fire.
4) The fundamental difference between the two services is that instead of being staffed by medically qualified people with years of training the money will be saved by instead staffing with call centre staff or will get 60 hours of training. If you think that is sufficient to decide whether or not your poorly child needs to be seen then good luck to you! The end result will be either people not referred when they should be and lives put at risk or people being routinely referred in order to not get sued and A&E being put under too much additional strain.

NHS Direct is excellent. We've used it a few times with Byron and once or twice for ourselves. Most recently was a couple of weeks ago when he had blood in his stools in the middle of the night after a week of a terrible viral bowel infection. Our out of hours line (which we tried) was broken and couldn't connect to the out of hours surgery. Without NHS Direct we would've been sat unnecessarily in A&E for hours instead.

There is a petition here: https://www.savenhsdirect.co.uk/ Apparently the government have said they will debate in parliament any petition that gets more than 100,000 signatures. Doubt that'll last but worth putting to the test!

The GP issue is a valid one however one has to work with a system that is in place, with health a giant overhall is not easy and requires a special degree of continuity. That said, the government is spending £3bn on reviewing the NHS instead of investing that in patient care. Of course a Tory review means privatisation. The GP services are going to be looking after 90% of the NHS budget. Terrifying given they mostly manage their own practices so poorly!

 

[PeanutBean]

sequeena Sounds to me like you did need someone though!

 

[sequeena]

sequeena Sounds to me like you did need someone though!

Yeah I think it was the shock of no-one knowing for 9 years, then my OH knowing then suddenly everyone knowing that did it.