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Help!!! I've no idea what I'm doing! :'(

NuKe

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Hi ladies! My lo is 4 days old now, and I'm officially throwing in the breastfeeding towel. I really tried my best, but its excruciatingly painful and it all came to a head at around 4am this morning when I was feeding her and sitting there crying my eyes out from the pain which made her stressed out and we were both just sitting there crying! My OH went to tesco and bought a few bottles and ready-made formula and a can of powder. We already had a steriliser. We gave her a bottle when he came home and after a few minutes she took to it and drank a bit. The issue is, we don't know how much she should be having and how often? Should we be waking her up to feed at regular intervals or just feed her when she cries? This morning my OH made me lie on for a couple of hours and when I got up he said he had been trying to feed her, and she only took a little milk and then when winding her she seemed to bring most of it back up? Is this normal?

I realise this is a very vague thread but we need help please! :cry:
 
Didnt wanna read and run hun. My Hv advised to feed LO every 4 hours and wake her if she ddnt wake herself, but this was because she lost ALOT of weight at the beginning. She could be spitting up mucus still? was it defo milk or mucus ? Alyssa has never taken what she 'should' just what she needs. I cant remember how much a 4 day old needs hun. sorry xx
 
im sure its milk. how do i tell the difference? thanks for the reply though hun :flower:
 
At 4 days old, it will be a case of little and often. Use the cartons for the minute until you have an idea what you're doing - that means that you can respond quickly if she demands food. Keep the carton in the fridge until you need more.

I'd suggest starting by offering 1oz at a time - you can give it at room temperature or slightly warm - if she brings lots back try a touch warmer (slightly warm on your inner wrist). Put the bottle in a jug with some water from the kettle in to warm - it only takes a minute if that for a 1oz bottle. If she finishes that and still seems hungry, offer another ounce. If it's straight away you can use the same bottle, if there is a wait in between use a fresh one. A used bottle is ok for up to 2 hours, although some people prefer only keeping it for 1.

Different babies follow different patterns, so to begin with just offer a bottle if she seems hungry, whatever the timing is. You might waste some, but I'm afraid that always happens with FF. To begin with my LO was all over the place, but he quickly settled into a 2 hour routine, followed by 3, then eventually 4. Once you're comfortable with what you're doing, start on the powder formula - it's cheaper but there's more work involved.

I would say that you shouldn't let her go more than 4 hours between feeds in the day - but the chances are she'll wake long before that anyway!

Babies often bring some milk back after a feed, and it can be quite alarming. It always looks like much more than it is, so try not to worry. Check the temperature of the milk, try positioning them a little more upright and stopping to wind a little earlier. If they have a huge burp forming, sometimes the milk settles on top, and that comes out with the burp, if that makes sense. If you consistently get a lot back, get MW to watch the feed - they might be able to offer help.

My situation was quite similar to yours, and at the time I was so relieved when I stopped BF. Since then there have been times where I wish I had been able to carry on. If you haven't talked to MW about it already, it might be worth doing so if you would like to find a way to continue. Some people find expressing works for them, or using shields or just talking to an expert.
 
Alyssas mucus was clear or yellow and stringy. shes only young still so wont be drinking lots. personally id say wake her after 4 hours if she has woken herself for a feed, my HV said the more they drink the more theyl get in a habbit of wakeing themselves for a feed. has your LO got any signs of jaundice ? just asking cause that makes them very tired which means shes less likely to wake herself when hungry.

Oh and congrats !! if your anything like me you will constantly worry about feeding lol but it does get easier, promise :) x
 
Hi I hve had 3 and by the time I got to my 3rd I'd let them go 6 hrs between feeds but with my first he went every 4 hours even if I had to wake him and by the time he was about 6 week I would let him go longer after his 10pmish bottle. What i was always told was always put an extra oz for bottle and then you are always ready if they want slightly more. I started making 3oz bottles then once they started finishing them I went up to 4oz and so on. Also if you make say 5 bottles with just hot water in and leave them out when they are ready for bottle just put powder in and instanly ready. None of mine had hot milk (mine eldest wasick on it after first ever one) plus if you have been breast feeding your LO might not like hot milk as BM is probable more room temp. Hope some of ths helps and not confusing.
 
I remember the early days were very difficult and scary! My baby just used to fall asleep at the breast (and still does). I remember the first night we got her home, she can't have had much at all. She feel asleep when I put her on me every time, then screamed when we tried to lie her down. We didn't have any formula in as a back up, so my partner went out in the morning and got cartons. The midwife came that morning and said the baby looked a little yellow. The midwives and health visitors that came after that also said she looked jaundiced so we took her to the hospital on Christmas Eve. She was always very sleepy (with hindsight she probably was a little jaundiced, its common) so we also got her blood sugar level tested. Her levels were fine in both tests. I remember being told a calculation you can do, that takes into account your baby's weight. It tells you how much formula they should have over 24 hours. I remember noting down the times and how much she had drunk. I used to add up how much she had had. Ask your midwife or health visitor about that calculation. Are they still coming round?

My little girl was never that hungry and it was a struggle to get her to drink what she was supposed to. I remember she only used to take about 30mls a time when she was tiny (she was 6lb2 at birth). It does sort its self out though. At first we were told to feed her every 2-3 hours and we woke her as she was so sleepy. Then she started to cry for food herself. Then it went from 3 hours to 4 hours, now at 11 weeks its between 4 and 5 hours and she is lovely and hungry. When you're going through it, it is so intense, but remember its not for long, and when your baby is telling you they are hungry every 4 hours its so much easier. You know where you are and you can plan things again. Going out becomes so much easier. :thumbup:

By the way, bringing back milk is normal and its called possetting. It normally just dribbles back out of their mouths. My baby does that, she also has a reflux problem which is common too. She has sick dribbling out of her mouth in between feeds. Apparently they grow out of it and being on solid food helps. I have put books under one end of her crib and have her in her chair during the day, so she is more upright.

Make sure you burp your little one. Sometimes milk can sit on top of bubbles of air in their tummys. You need to bring the air back up or else they will get colic. They will often bring up a little milk when they do a burp and its better they do it when you burp them. If you don't burp them they will burp when you lie them down and bring the milk up then.

Also, its probably worth you buying in some Infacol, incase your baby gets colic. My baby started to squirm with discomfort and a drop on Infacol before each feed worked a treat.

Blimey, I've written loads! I hope some of it helps!
 
thankyou sooo much ladies! you have been so helpful and informative! we had a good night last night- she woke for feeds at 10pm, 12.30, 3.30, 5.30 and then 9! and went straight back to sleep in between! my oh managed to get quite a bit of sleep, although i didnt due to very sore boobs so i could only lie on my back (i cannot sleep on my back) but im soooooo happy with how it went! we had our first experience of exorcist-style projectile vomiting today as well! lol! it honestly landed about 2 feet away! all over me and our new sofa! had to laugh though :haha:
 
i'd just like to add that my lo properly projectile vomited milk for a few days as i think she was gobbling it down and her little belly couldn't cope - it passed within a couple of days though - so if she's sick a lot (proper vomiting not just a dribble) don't worry too much as long as it's not after every feed. if she is vomiting like that after every feed check she's having enough wet nappies a day ust in case she's a little dry.
 
Hi, my LO was taking 3oz every 4 hours at about that age. When he's draining bottles and still hungry we just pop it up an ounce. He's now nearly 4 weeks and taking 5oz every 3 hours. When I first came home from hospital for about 2 weeks I was making up bottles as and when I needed them but they take too long to cool when my baby wants feeding he wants it asap lol. I know steralise a big jug with lid and put boiling water in for it too cool. Add 1oz of boiling water Into a bottle add the powder then fill up with the cool boiled water so much easier for me and it dosent keep baby waiting ages. I wish I'd have known that at 1st. HTH xx
 
my lil man is now on 5oz but he started of on 4oz but hes a big boy 9lbs 12 born lol hes on cow n gate and on the back of the box it says how much they should have i think it says 3oz for babys 7lbs not sure without checking tho x
 
Hi, my LO was taking 3oz every 4 hours at about that age. When he's draining bottles and still hungry we just pop it up an ounce. He's now nearly 4 weeks and taking 5oz every 3 hours. When I first came home from hospital for about 2 weeks I was making up bottles as and when I needed them but they take too long to cool when my baby wants feeding he wants it asap lol. I know steralise a big jug with lid and put boiling water in for it too cool. Add 1oz of boiling water Into a bottle add the powder then fill up with the cool boiled water so much easier for me and it dosent keep baby waiting ages. I wish I'd have known that at 1st. HTH xx

thats such a brilliant idea! im totally gonna do that! thankyou! :flower:
 
Breast feeding is very tough in the begining but trust me it does get better. If it's very painful maybe your baby is not latching on properly. Try combing breast milk and formula and ween your baby of breast milk very slowly. Otherwise your little one will have a few days of tummy ache which is not very nice. Tell your midwive that your struggling. I know how you feel. Your nipples feel like they've been eaten by sharks and you feel like your starving your baby. This time next week it will be second nature to you. It just takes a lot of patience. I switched from breast to bottle twice becasue of antibiotics. I use sma old ready made. It's fantastic but a little more exspensive than powder. x
 
i know just how you feel I was the same.

Two things I've found essential when out and about is the fisher price bottle warmer
https://www.mothercare.com/Fisher-P...1/278-2227961-3402251?_encoding=UTF8&mcb=core

and a milk pot

https://www.mothercare.com/Avent-Mo...ing=UTF8&m=A2LBKNDJ2KZUGQ&n=42773041&mcb=core

I wish I'd of know about these earlier
 
Omg, the projectile vomiting when we switched to formula! My OH had Mika laying on his back as he was holding him and he projectile vomited and got it in his own eyes! It was such a HUGE mess all over Mika and my OH!

We were told we don't need to boil water, but we do use purified water because the water here tastes sort of funny. Our LO just takes the bottle cold, warm makes his tummy upset and we were told cold was just fine if he would take it, it sure saves us a LOT of time!

Nuke-how much is she eating now? Mika downed almost 7 oz in just two hours today! I think we are having a growth spurt, but he's usually taking about 3 oz. and we wake him at least every 3 hours because he will sleep through feedings if we let him!
 
Omg, the projectile vomiting when we switched to formula! My OH had Mika laying on his back as he was holding him and he projectile vomited and got it in his own eyes! It was such a HUGE mess all over Mika and my OH!

We were told we don't need to boil water, but we do use purified water because the water here tastes sort of funny. Our LO just takes the bottle cold, warm makes his tummy upset and we were told cold was just fine if he would take it, it sure saves us a LOT of time!

Nuke-how much is she eating now? Mika downed almost 7 oz in just two hours today! I think we are having a growth spurt, but he's usually taking about 3 oz. and we wake him at least every 3 hours because he will sleep through feedings if we let him!

shes taking between 2 and 4oz at a time, about every 3 hours. she wud also sleep through if we let her- feel awful waking her up but it saves our sanity!!!
 
Omg, the projectile vomiting when we switched to formula! My OH had Mika laying on his back as he was holding him and he projectile vomited and got it in his own eyes! It was such a HUGE mess all over Mika and my OH!

We were told we don't need to boil water, but we do use purified water because the water here tastes sort of funny. Our LO just takes the bottle cold, warm makes his tummy upset and we were told cold was just fine if he would take it, it sure saves us a LOT of time!

Nuke-how much is she eating now? Mika downed almost 7 oz in just two hours today! I think we are having a growth spurt, but he's usually taking about 3 oz. and we wake him at least every 3 hours because he will sleep through feedings if we let him!

shes taking between 2 and 4oz at a time, about every 3 hours. she wud also sleep through if we let her- feel awful waking her up but it saves our sanity!!!

Oh I know, I HATE waking him up when he looks so peaceful!
 

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