hidden twin ..... ? extra heartbeat found.

[MomC]

It it possible to miss a twin my friend didn't find out she was having twins til 20 weeks. And she had scans at 7 and 12 weeks. It is possible

 

[amjon]

It it possible to miss a twin my friend didn't find out she was having twins til 20 weeks. And she had scans at 7 and 12 weeks. It is possible

She said she was 26 weeks and had a scan. It is not possible for them to miss a baby that late.

 

[fertiliciousx]

They would be able to find the twin with U/S no problem at 30 weeks. Boys CAN have 3 lines in earlier U/S and appear to be girls, so I would say she probably had a boy that wasn't far enough developed and by the next scan it was. If they are not able to find a twin at 26 weeks then either the tech is seriously misqualified or the twin is SO small there is no way it could ever be viable. It has been obvious I have 2 in there from 8 weeks. Now they can barely get a shot of one without getting some part of the other (and we just had our 26 week U/S last week). I'd get the idea of twins out of your head. If they've done U/S and couldn't find one, then there isn't one there.

Do you have to be quite so blunt??
Maybe there is a simple explanation where the other heartbeat is coming from, i'm not a doctor so i dont have a clue. If you read the original post she clearly says that her friend has to go have a specialist scan to double check if there is a hiding twin in there so the idea is not 'in her head' it has been mentioned by someone in the medical profession.

Squeeks, hope your friend gets some answers soon xx

I have had plenty of scans with my twins and I'm telling you at this size there is NO WAY they could miss one on an U/S, especially if they are looking for one. The babies are WAY too big to miss. If it was a 6 weeks scan or something very early maybe, but at almost the third tri, not possible.

Erm, not every twin pregnancy is like or will be like yours hon. You shouldn't claim to know if there are or there aren't twins there.

I have watched a documentary of a woman who didn't find out she was pregnant until 6 months gone and with all the scans and checks they all confirmed 1 baby. All the while she had another baby growing outside the womb. How the baby survived was a complete mystery. The only knew about the 2nd baby after the 1st was delivered.

Not every sickness/condition/pregnancy is straight forward / textbook. Things still happen that science cannot explain. I wouldn't be so quick to judge and be all 'as a matter of fact' about it.

Anyways, I'm excited for your friend Squeaks...can't wait to hear what they find

 

[Princess Lou]

It it possible to miss a twin my friend didn't find out she was having twins til 20 weeks. And she had scans at 7 and 12 weeks. It is possible

She said she was 26 weeks and had a scan. It is not possible for them to miss a baby that late.

It IS possible. My SIL (was at scans with her as FOB 'did a runner') found out she was having twins at the delivery. She was scanned at 13, 21 and 33 weeks.

Not every pregnancy is text book and not every professional knows everything so forgive me for stating you need to do more research and stop stating that because your's is textbook, that everyone else's is. I can also be very blunt.


On a different note, I'm intrigued to know how she gets on.

 

[amjon]

It it possible to miss a twin my friend didn't find out she was having twins til 20 weeks. And she had scans at 7 and 12 weeks. It is possible

She said she was 26 weeks and had a scan. It is not possible for them to miss a baby that late.

It IS possible. My SIL (was at scans with her as FOB 'did a runner') found out she was having twins at the delivery. She was scanned at 13, 21 and 33 weeks.

Not every pregnancy is text book and not every professional knows everything so forgive me for stating you need to do more research and stop stating that because your's is textbook, that everyone else's is. I can also be very blunt.

Were they specifically LOOKING for a twin? How can they miss a 2-3lb mass they are looking for? That doesn't make any sense unless the tech really wasn't looking all that hard. The uterus isn't all that big, so there aren't really all that many places they could "hide".

 

[Princess Lou]

It it possible to miss a twin my friend didn't find out she was having twins til 20 weeks. And she had scans at 7 and 12 weeks. It is possible

She said she was 26 weeks and had a scan. It is not possible for them to miss a baby that late.

It IS possible. My SIL (was at scans with her as FOB 'did a runner') found out she was having twins at the delivery. She was scanned at 13, 21 and 33 weeks.

Not every pregnancy is text book and not every professional knows everything so forgive me for stating you need to do more research and stop stating that because your's is textbook, that everyone else's is. I can also be very blunt.

Were they specifically LOOKING for a twin? How can they miss a 2-3lb mass they are looking for? That doesn't make any sense unless the tech really wasn't looking all that hard. The uterus isn't all that big, so there aren't really all that many places they could "hide".

I didn't ask but as you say, 'in theory' a "2-3lb mass" can't be that hard to find. However, one of them was missed (identical girls) so it clearly can be that hard to find and the midwife conducting the last scan had been doing it for 30+ years. They didn't even know when she was in labor. She was pushing the placenta out and out came a baby.

I understand you know a lot about your pregnancy but you don't know any of these women in real life and I find it quite insulting that you feel you know more about their pregnancies than anyone else. Everyone is happy that you're pregnancy is so perfect but you need to back of from those that aren't. If you think I'm being blunt/harsh/mean, I don't care. I feel you are rather insensitive and condescending so that makes us even.

 

[amjon]

It it possible to miss a twin my friend didn't find out she was having twins til 20 weeks. And she had scans at 7 and 12 weeks. It is possible

She said she was 26 weeks and had a scan. It is not possible for them to miss a baby that late.

It IS possible. My SIL (was at scans with her as FOB 'did a runner') found out she was having twins at the delivery. She was scanned at 13, 21 and 33 weeks.

Not every pregnancy is text book and not every professional knows everything so forgive me for stating you need to do more research and stop stating that because your's is textbook, that everyone else's is. I can also be very blunt.

Were they specifically LOOKING for a twin? How can they miss a 2-3lb mass they are looking for? That doesn't make any sense unless the tech really wasn't looking all that hard. The uterus isn't all that big, so there aren't really all that many places they could "hide".

I didn't ask but as you say, 'in theory' a "2-3lb mass" can't be that hard to find. However, one of them was missed (identical girls) so it clearly can be that hard to find and the midwife conducting the last scan had been doing it for 30+ years. They didn't even know when she was in labor. She was pushing the placenta out and out came a baby.

I understand you know a lot about your pregnancy but you don't know any of these women in real life and I find it quite insulting that you feel you know more about their pregnancies than anyone else. Everyone is happy that you're pregnancy is so perfect but you need to back of from those that aren't. If you think I'm being blunt/harsh/mean, I don't care. I feel you are rather insensitive and condescending so that makes us even.

The tech we see most of the time told us that if they miss a baby (even at 8 weeks) then they aren't a good tech as they should NOT be missing babies in there (particularly if they are LOOKING for another one). She said it would be nearly impossible for them to miss twins even at 8 weeks. They weren't even looking for a second when they found ours. They do check the whole uterus every time though. I find it VERY hard to believe a doctor LOOKING for a second baby at 26 weeks couldn't find it if it was there. A 26 week baby is NOT small. That would be like completely missing your bladder or more. I just don't see it happening with a competent person doing the U/S.

 

[nnynny]

It it possible to miss a twin my friend didn't find out she was having twins til 20 weeks. And she had scans at 7 and 12 weeks. It is possible

She said she was 26 weeks and had a scan. It is not possible for them to miss a baby that late.

It IS possible. My SIL (was at scans with her as FOB 'did a runner') found out she was having twins at the delivery. She was scanned at 13, 21 and 33 weeks.

Not every pregnancy is text book and not every professional knows everything so forgive me for stating you need to do more research and stop stating that because your's is textbook, that everyone else's is. I can also be very blunt.

Were they specifically LOOKING for a twin? How can they miss a 2-3lb mass they are looking for? That doesn't make any sense unless the tech really wasn't looking all that hard. The uterus isn't all that big, so there aren't really all that many places they could "hide".

I didn't ask but as you say, 'in theory' a "2-3lb mass" can't be that hard to find. However, one of them was missed (identical girls) so it clearly can be that hard to find and the midwife conducting the last scan had been doing it for 30+ years. They didn't even know when she was in labor. She was pushing the placenta out and out came a baby.

I understand you know a lot about your pregnancy but you don't know any of these women in real life and I find it quite insulting that you feel you know more about their pregnancies than anyone else. Everyone is happy that you're pregnancy is so perfect but you need to back of from those that aren't. If you think I'm being blunt/harsh/mean, I don't care. I feel you are rather insensitive and condescending so that makes us even.

The tech we see most of the time told us that if they miss a baby (even at 8 weeks) then they aren't a good tech as they should NOT be missing babies in there (particularly if they are LOOKING for another one). She said it would be nearly impossible for them to miss twins even at 8 weeks. They weren't even looking for a second when they found ours. They do check the whole uterus every time though. I find it VERY hard to believe a doctor LOOKING for a second baby at 26 weeks couldn't find it if it was there. A 26 week baby is NOT small. That would be like completely missing your bladder or more. I just don't see it happening with a competent person doing the U/S.

Although it is uncommon in cases with regular scans, it is possible to miss a twin. Not every woman's uterus is pear shaped and the baby may be hiding towards the back in which case, the other abodminal organs may be overlaying that part of the uterus. Keep in mind that an ultrasound relies on sound frequency waves which bounces off the tissues and could in this case have bounced off other abdominal organs overlaying that part of the uterus.

 

[heyluu]

Hmmmm there must be A LOT of incompetent techs and doctors out there because I've heard of this happening in many twin cases where the second baby is not seen until 19-20 weeks.

 

[girlinyork]

My aunt and uncle are twins and they thought it was just my aunt until well into the third trimester until they went actively looking for a twin and even then they weren't so sure because my uncle was small and weak. However, technology wasn't as good back then so I think the mistake was easier to make. My mum was told her twins were a singleton at about 10 weeks so when she miscarried one they were very shocked to see she was she still pregnant. It does baffle me that a tech could miss a whole baby - particularly as my girl seemed massive at 27 weeks but I suppose if there were some sort of extenuating circumstances it could happen. I'll be intrigued to find out what the extra pulsating doo-dad is. Whether a heartbeat or something more mundane

 

[surprisedmama]

It it possible to miss a twin my friend didn't find out she was having twins til 20 weeks. And she had scans at 7 and 12 weeks. It is possible

She said she was 26 weeks and had a scan. It is not possible for them to miss a baby that late.

It IS possible. My SIL (was at scans with her as FOB 'did a runner') found out she was having twins at the delivery. She was scanned at 13, 21 and 33 weeks.

Not every pregnancy is text book and not every professional knows everything so forgive me for stating you need to do more research and stop stating that because your's is textbook, that everyone else's is. I can also be very blunt.

Were they specifically LOOKING for a twin? How can they miss a 2-3lb mass they are looking for? That doesn't make any sense unless the tech really wasn't looking all that hard. The uterus isn't all that big, so there aren't really all that many places they could "hide".

I didn't ask but as you say, 'in theory' a "2-3lb mass" can't be that hard to find. However, one of them was missed (identical girls) so it clearly can be that hard to find and the midwife conducting the last scan had been doing it for 30+ years. They didn't even know when she was in labor. She was pushing the placenta out and out came a baby.

I understand you know a lot about your pregnancy but you don't know any of these women in real life and I find it quite insulting that you feel you know more about their pregnancies than anyone else. Everyone is happy that you're pregnancy is so perfect but you need to back of from those that aren't. If you think I'm being blunt/harsh/mean, I don't care. I feel you are rather insensitive and condescending so that makes us even.

The tech we see most of the time told us that if they miss a baby (even at 8 weeks) then they aren't a good tech as they should NOT be missing babies in there (particularly if they are LOOKING for another one). She said it would be nearly impossible for them to miss twins even at 8 weeks. They weren't even looking for a second when they found ours. They do check the whole uterus every time though. I find it VERY hard to believe a doctor LOOKING for a second baby at 26 weeks couldn't find it if it was there. A 26 week baby is NOT small. That would be like completely missing your bladder or more. I just don't see it happening with a competent person doing the U/S.

Then why don't you become an ultrasound tech so you can be right 100% of the time?

While you're at it, get an MD behind your name since it seems like you know it all.

Sorry this is harsh, but you act like you know *all*.

 

[o0Squeaks0o]

It it possible to miss a twin my friend didn't find out she was having twins til 20 weeks. And she had scans at 7 and 12 weeks. It is possible

She said she was 26 weeks and had a scan. It is not possible for them to miss a baby that late.

It IS possible. My SIL (was at scans with her as FOB 'did a runner') found out she was having twins at the delivery. She was scanned at 13, 21 and 33 weeks.

Not every pregnancy is text book and not every professional knows everything so forgive me for stating you need to do more research and stop stating that because your's is textbook, that everyone else's is. I can also be very blunt.

Were they specifically LOOKING for a twin? How can they miss a 2-3lb mass they are looking for? That doesn't make any sense unless the tech really wasn't looking all that hard. The uterus isn't all that big, so there aren't really all that many places they could "hide".

I didn't ask but as you say, 'in theory' a "2-3lb mass" can't be that hard to find. However, one of them was missed (identical girls) so it clearly can be that hard to find and the midwife conducting the last scan had been doing it for 30+ years. They didn't even know when she was in labor. She was pushing the placenta out and out came a baby.

I understand you know a lot about your pregnancy but you don't know any of these women in real life and I find it quite insulting that you feel you know more about their pregnancies than anyone else. Everyone is happy that you're pregnancy is so perfect but you need to back of from those that aren't. If you think I'm being blunt/harsh/mean, I don't care. I feel you are rather insensitive and condescending so that makes us even.

The tech we see most of the time told us that if they miss a baby (even at 8 weeks) then they aren't a good tech as they should NOT be missing babies in there (particularly if they are LOOKING for another one). She said it would be nearly impossible for them to miss twins even at 8 weeks. They weren't even looking for a second when they found ours. They do check the whole uterus every time though. I find it VERY hard to believe a doctor LOOKING for a second baby at 26 weeks couldn't find it if it was there. A 26 week baby is NOT small. That would be like completely missing your bladder or more. I just don't see it happening with a competent person doing the U/S.

I never stated the tec looked for the second baby. drs were called into the room where my friend was told she required a specialist scan to determine what and where this other heartbeat was coming from. the tech only told her of the findings once the Dr was present. i am in the UK. maybe ours health care is done differently to yours. with complications on an ultrasound we get referred to somebody who specializes in that area.

 

[Glitter_berry]

They would be able to find the twin with U/S no problem at 30 weeks. Boys CAN have 3 lines in earlier U/S and appear to be girls, so I would say she probably had a boy that wasn't far enough developed and by the next scan it was. If they are not able to find a twin at 26 weeks then either the tech is seriously misqualified or the twin is SO small there is no way it could ever be viable. It has been obvious I have 2 in there from 8 weeks. Now they can barely get a shot of one without getting some part of the other (and we just had our 26 week U/S last week). I'd get the idea of twins out of your head. If they've done U/S and couldn't find one, then there isn't one there.

Wow!! How rude!!
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Good luck to your friend. My Nanna was pregnant with triplets and she had a severe bleed and they told her her babies had died. Then she continued to grow and they ignored it and told her it was a phantom pregnancy. Then they told her she was pregnant with one late in pregnancy ( I'm not sure on how many weeks maybe 30 ish) And at the delivery 6 weeks later she gave birth to two, my Aunty and uncle.

If they had u/s then it would have been pretty bad quality, but still an amazing story that might give your friend some hope for her little twinnies.

 

[amjon]

It it possible to miss a twin my friend didn't find out she was having twins til 20 weeks. And she had scans at 7 and 12 weeks. It is possible

She said she was 26 weeks and had a scan. It is not possible for them to miss a baby that late.

It IS possible. My SIL (was at scans with her as FOB 'did a runner') found out she was having twins at the delivery. She was scanned at 13, 21 and 33 weeks.

Not every pregnancy is text book and not every professional knows everything so forgive me for stating you need to do more research and stop stating that because your's is textbook, that everyone else's is. I can also be very blunt.

Were they specifically LOOKING for a twin? How can they miss a 2-3lb mass they are looking for? That doesn't make any sense unless the tech really wasn't looking all that hard. The uterus isn't all that big, so there aren't really all that many places they could "hide".

I didn't ask but as you say, 'in theory' a "2-3lb mass" can't be that hard to find. However, one of them was missed (identical girls) so it clearly can be that hard to find and the midwife conducting the last scan had been doing it for 30+ years. They didn't even know when she was in labor. She was pushing the placenta out and out came a baby.

I understand you know a lot about your pregnancy but you don't know any of these women in real life and I find it quite insulting that you feel you know more about their pregnancies than anyone else. Everyone is happy that you're pregnancy is so perfect but you need to back of from those that aren't. If you think I'm being blunt/harsh/mean, I don't care. I feel you are rather insensitive and condescending so that makes us even.

The tech we see most of the time told us that if they miss a baby (even at 8 weeks) then they aren't a good tech as they should NOT be missing babies in there (particularly if they are LOOKING for another one). She said it would be nearly impossible for them to miss twins even at 8 weeks. They weren't even looking for a second when they found ours. They do check the whole uterus every time though. I find it VERY hard to believe a doctor LOOKING for a second baby at 26 weeks couldn't find it if it was there. A 26 week baby is NOT small. That would be like completely missing your bladder or more. I just don't see it happening with a competent person doing the U/S.

I never stated the tec looked for the second baby. drs were called into the room where my friend was told she required a specialist scan to determine what and where this other heartbeat was coming from. the tech only told her of the findings once the Dr was present. i am in the UK. maybe ours health care is done differently to yours. with complications on an ultrasound we get referred to somebody who specializes in that area.

If they are already doing an U/S and think they have another HB why wouldn't they LOOK for where it is coming from then? That doesn't make a bit of sense. If my doctor suspected there was more than one I can pretty much guarantee she would try to find the twin then and there (if they didn't know there was more than one) and then probably send you to a specialist to look into the twins more.

 

[Princess Lou]

It it possible to miss a twin my friend didn't find out she was having twins til 20 weeks. And she had scans at 7 and 12 weeks. It is possible

She said she was 26 weeks and had a scan. It is not possible for them to miss a baby that late.

It IS possible. My SIL (was at scans with her as FOB 'did a runner') found out she was having twins at the delivery. She was scanned at 13, 21 and 33 weeks.

Not every pregnancy is text book and not every professional knows everything so forgive me for stating you need to do more research and stop stating that because your's is textbook, that everyone else's is. I can also be very blunt.

Were they specifically LOOKING for a twin? How can they miss a 2-3lb mass they are looking for? That doesn't make any sense unless the tech really wasn't looking all that hard. The uterus isn't all that big, so there aren't really all that many places they could "hide".

I didn't ask but as you say, 'in theory' a "2-3lb mass" can't be that hard to find. However, one of them was missed (identical girls) so it clearly can be that hard to find and the midwife conducting the last scan had been doing it for 30+ years. They didn't even know when she was in labor. She was pushing the placenta out and out came a baby.

I understand you know a lot about your pregnancy but you don't know any of these women in real life and I find it quite insulting that you feel you know more about their pregnancies than anyone else. Everyone is happy that you're pregnancy is so perfect but you need to back of from those that aren't. If you think I'm being blunt/harsh/mean, I don't care. I feel you are rather insensitive and condescending so that makes us even.

The tech we see most of the time told us that if they miss a baby (even at 8 weeks) then they aren't a good tech as they should NOT be missing babies in there (particularly if they are LOOKING for another one). She said it would be nearly impossible for them to miss twins even at 8 weeks. They weren't even looking for a second when they found ours. They do check the whole uterus every time though. I find it VERY hard to believe a doctor LOOKING for a second baby at 26 weeks couldn't find it if it was there. A 26 week baby is NOT small. That would be like completely missing your bladder or more. I just don't see it happening with a competent person doing the U/S.

I never stated the tec looked for the second baby. drs were called into the room where my friend was told she required a specialist scan to determine what and where this other heartbeat was coming from. the tech only told her of the findings once the Dr was present. i am in the UK. maybe ours health care is done differently to yours. with complications on an ultrasound we get referred to somebody who specializes in that area.

If they are already doing an U/S and think they have another HB why wouldn't they LOOK for where it is coming from then? That doesn't make a bit of sense. If my doctor suspected there was more than one I can pretty much guarantee she would try to find the twin then and there (if they didn't know there was more than one) and then probably send you to a specialist to look into the twins more.

We need to know the name of your doctor because s/he sounds SUPER perfect.

Girls, we all need to know that the doctors etc we have are far less superior to the one she has.


Side note, May 8th does sound a long way off. NHS?

 

[Princess Lou]

I're read back my last post and it does sound rather bitchy. I don't mean to offend.

 

[o0Squeaks0o]

because its not the way its done here. our techs probably only train in certain ways. she obviously felt it was beyond what she was able to do and called for the Dr to come in the room who ordered the specialist scan to investigate. i have lived in Canada and the UK. and the differences between my pregnancy with DD in Canada to this pregnancy in the UK have been a totally different experience. including the ultrasounds and routine testing. the more i have sat reading tonight it seems this is a possible thing to happen and that most hidden twins get noticed in the later part of pregnancy. yes a bit 'crazy' to think but it has and does happen. i wish you all the best with your twin pregnancy.

 

[o0Squeaks0o]

It it possible to miss a twin my friend didn't find out she was having twins til 20 weeks. And she had scans at 7 and 12 weeks. It is possible

She said she was 26 weeks and had a scan. It is not possible for them to miss a baby that late.

It IS possible. My SIL (was at scans with her as FOB 'did a runner') found out she was having twins at the delivery. She was scanned at 13, 21 and 33 weeks.

Not every pregnancy is text book and not every professional knows everything so forgive me for stating you need to do more research and stop stating that because your's is textbook, that everyone else's is. I can also be very blunt.

Were they specifically LOOKING for a twin? How can they miss a 2-3lb mass they are looking for? That doesn't make any sense unless the tech really wasn't looking all that hard. The uterus isn't all that big, so there aren't really all that many places they could "hide".

I didn't ask but as you say, 'in theory' a "2-3lb mass" can't be that hard to find. However, one of them was missed (identical girls) so it clearly can be that hard to find and the midwife conducting the last scan had been doing it for 30+ years. They didn't even know when she was in labor. She was pushing the placenta out and out came a baby.

I understand you know a lot about your pregnancy but you don't know any of these women in real life and I find it quite insulting that you feel you know more about their pregnancies than anyone else. Everyone is happy that you're pregnancy is so perfect but you need to back of from those that aren't. If you think I'm being blunt/harsh/mean, I don't care. I feel you are rather insensitive and condescending so that makes us even.

The tech we see most of the time told us that if they miss a baby (even at 8 weeks) then they aren't a good tech as they should NOT be missing babies in there (particularly if they are LOOKING for another one). She said it would be nearly impossible for them to miss twins even at 8 weeks. They weren't even looking for a second when they found ours. They do check the whole uterus every time though. I find it VERY hard to believe a doctor LOOKING for a second baby at 26 weeks couldn't find it if it was there. A 26 week baby is NOT small. That would be like completely missing your bladder or more. I just don't see it happening with a competent person doing the U/S.

I never stated the tec looked for the second baby. drs were called into the room where my friend was told she required a specialist scan to determine what and where this other heartbeat was coming from. the tech only told her of the findings once the Dr was present. i am in the UK. maybe ours health care is done differently to yours. with complications on an ultrasound we get referred to somebody who specializes in that area.

If they are already doing an U/S and think they have another HB why wouldn't they LOOK for where it is coming from then? That doesn't make a bit of sense. If my doctor suspected there was more than one I can pretty much guarantee she would try to find the twin then and there (if they didn't know there was more than one) and then probably send you to a specialist to look into the twins more.

We need to know the name of your doctor because s/he sounds SUPER perfect.

Girls, we all need to know that the doctors etc we have are far less superior to the one she has.


Side note, May 8th does sound a long way off. NHS?

yep .... my thought too. that's what she got upset about the long wait. they've said they'll call her in if a cancellation happens but how often do they honour that when they say they will, just makes me sad how the health system works here something important and its nearly months wait away. i just want time to fly by for her so she gets an answer either way.

 

[girlinyork]

Does she look big for her gestation?

 

[o0Squeaks0o]

Does she look big for her gestation?

kind of, some days she looks bigger then others for sure. xx