Higher chance of chemicals over 35?

[Sunshine14]

Haha Becks you did make me laugh sweetie! - saying you were going to give everything up & then adding when this cycle is over! lol - it is like you have to ween yourself off of all of the processes isn't it! That is soo cool that you got a good doctor and I agree with u - I don't do any of the temping stuff (I just couldn't get my head around all of that work) I just do the opk's from about cd8 -- 1 a day & then maybe 2 when I think it's going +. Like I said before we also dtd from about cd 5 / 6 ( have 3 LO's and work full time so sometimes it can be hard to get the time & energy!) & then at least every two days / sometimes 3 days if we are both knackered. Its loosely based on the SMEP (sperm meets egg plan) which basically says that you dtd every second day til past O (to replenish sperm and make sure his numbers aren't dropping too low & also so that there is a constant amount of sperm waiting for the egg). This month with me getting PG we dtd Saturday & Monday & then I got +opk Tuesday (I think O'd Wednesday) & I think my honey was out so we didn't do it again til Saturday & boom PG. I have always followed that idea ie every second day & works for me as PG 5 times this past year!! Have a google Becks of how long it takes sperm to replenish after sex & see what you think - it sounds like you have loads of fun with your high energy 26 year old dh! but maybe less is a bit more in this case hun!? -- anyway google it and see what you think sweetie xx I am so delighted you got a cool doctor -- I really do agree with him - you had a baby just a year ago and 2 cp's so your body is really trying hun & it is just getting that sticky one- praying that it's an xmas one for you babe xx what cd are you now?

Nikki welcome & sorry to hear about ur 2 cps - Becks and Luv and I all know about that so you are in good company. Fingers xd u get a bfp soon hun -- I read ur story about ur little boy wanting a baby brother / sister & it was very sad & would really tear at ur heart but u can't allow urself to dwell on things like that as u have got to stay + and not let urself fel inadequate in anyway. Becks and I have often said this ttc as u get older is like an endurance test & u just have to keep going til u get ur rainbow baba. Even if it means loads of cp's / early mc's or month after month of nothing u just have to keep going hun & stay +. R u taking vitamins & stuff hun & what about oh is he taking some vits too? I think u should keep in mind that u r still only 35 & have a good few years of ttc ahead of u - u already have one child so u know u can do it & everything works & it sounds like u have a great doc who will come up with a plan for u so fingers xd it is only a matter of time & just keep going with whatever optiosn are open to u natural or IVF XX

 

[Sunshine14]

That last message was getting too long so thought I would finish it and start a new one lol!! Just to say still PG been POAS like crazy all week & sending my honey out for packs of 2 proper tests at a time!! It was faint lines at start of week but getting darker tonight thank goodness!! It still hasn't sunk in really ....... I keep thinking will start bleeding at any point & don't really want to get my hopes up so just taking each day as it comes! The hospital scheduled a scan for me for 30th December when I will be 7weeks (if I get to that stage) & I'm just trying to focus on eating healthy, finishing up at work (last day is 19th & have 2 weeks off) and get organised with Santy & everything!! I have 2 xmas parties next week which will be big drinking affairs -- I managed to get out of one cos my little fella has a carol service that night so was able to use that as an excuse & give my ticket to a colleague & then the second one I'm going to pretend I have a UTI & can't drink booze (I had one a few months ago so might just get away with that!!) agh!!! ......... It sounds awful, I am staying + in myself but, if I don't start bleeding before the scan, I just don't believe that they will find a hb! Have been taking baby asprin and progesterone since Tuesday & I have googled it and both can help with recurring miscarriage but I just can't allow myself to get excited in case it's another cp or mmc : ( sorry ladies to be so crap but after 4 mc's this year I am kindof worn out emotionally iykwim!! Anyway completley knackered at the mo (hopefully a good sign!) so off for zzzzzzzzzzzz's xx take care ladies xx

 

[Oasis717]

Aw I'm so so pleased your tests are getting darker! That's fantastic, I know I will be a nervous wreck if I'm lucky enough to get another bfp, I should be o anytime now, over the last two years we have tried different methods but the only one that's got me pregnant 5 times is more! 5 times a day for the first two in 2012, 4 times a day made Brooklyn and 2/3 times a day got the CP's (just couldn't manage anymore with having Brooklyn) they told us at the hospital that dh has a very high sperm count and that having sex multiple times a day only diminishes his count slightly but every time we bd it gives us an extra chance so I think its just different things work for different people and more is only what works for us dh has two jobs and i work part time but he does one from home making it slightly easier but still hard to fit in!
Ive had really bad stitch like pain on and off all night in my right side of pelvis, haven't had o pain since I conceived Brooklyn so trying not to hope but can't help it! Look after yourself and I'm crossing absolutely everything that this is your sticky bean, lots luv xxxxx

 

[Sunshine14]

Wow! Becks ur dh sounds like the perfect man!!! not only is he 26 but a mega high sperm count no wonder ur up for doing it 5 times a day -- you go girl!!! Especially if that is what has got u PG all the other times xx I've got a toyboy too but he is only 3 years younger than me but is so immature he behaves like a 30 year old and keeps me young!!! Lol xx It sounds v promising this month if ur getting O pain -- I have everything xd for u babe u have to get a lucky break soon & a sticky bfp if its not xmas then 2015 is ur year babe!! U just have to hang in there xxx

Afm I tested again this morning - I keep being surprised that its still + - I'm actually only 4 weeks + 3 today but because I tested early last weekend & got faint + it feels like this has gone on forever. The scan is 2 weeks Tuesday & it is soo going to drag!! Anyway babes enjoy ur bding & everything xd u get a sticky bfp xxx

Luv how r u doing hun? How far along are u? R u about 9 /10 weeks hun? Will u get a scan at 12 weeks? Hope ur well sweetie xx

 

[Oasis717]

Lol he is pretty amazing I just wish id met him younger, me younger obviously lol, but you can't change what is meant to be, we are making up for it now I must admit, neither of us were happy before we met then nothing mattered once we found each other, god I sound like a right div lol but he is amazing and my best friend well no rise this morning and was a bit disappointed but I had the pains right into the early hours so I guess I could of o early hours and the rise will be tomorrow, hope so, we had to set the alarm really early so we could bd before everyone wakes as dh has taken our son 6 out today which he does every sat, swimming or bowling etc to make sure he never feels left out with Brooklyn needing so much attention xxx
I'm so pleased your tests are still positive I lost my lines almost by 12dpo and not got past 4 weeks 3 days with either cp so I'm so so thrilled for you I just hope I can join you and luv xxx

 

[Sunshine14]

Hey Becks ur fella sounds lovely & your relationship sounds great - some people never find a relationship like that so you are very lucky xx Did you work out whether you o'd then? ARe you in the 2ww now hun?

Afm - I'm in a pretty bad way at the mo' - I'm 4+ 4 today & my 4 mc's in the past year were at 4+3, 5+6, 3+6 & mmc at 6 weeks which ended at 9 weeks. I am convinced it's going to be another mc - i had cramping last night & my boobs don't seem as sore today so I'm waiting for af to start - I was googling mc last night (probably a stupid thing to do!!) and my head is wrecked! I found this website that said that when the egg & sperm fuse together sometimes not all chromosomes are there & it is only when they come to play their part in the babies development that the miscarriage occurs- so that is probably why they say the risk of mc goes down at 12 weeks as the baby is more or less formed then & just has to grow!! I'm only 4+4 aghhhhhh!! How do I get to 12 weeks!!!?????? Any tips Becks on how I get through this hun??? Maybe i just have to try to take each day at a time!! Sorry to be so crap - I'm usually v positive -- I'm actually starting to wonder if the progesterone I'm taking is messing with my moods a bit ............. anyway hun hope ur well & getting set for xmas? I have tomorrow off & we are going santy shopping & to see my little fellas nativity play & I only have 4 days left at work after that -- so maybe I should just absorb myself in xmas & see if I can get through each day as it comes!! Take care hun xxx

 

[Oasis717]

Aw sweetheart I totally, totally understand, anyone that has been through what you (we) have been through is going to find it hard, be kind to yourself, its so hard to be super positive all the time, after two losses (12 then 11 weeks) I conceived Brooklyn and was a bit of a wreck in the beginning, I remember my sickness completely disappeared for a week at 8 weeks and I convinced myself it was all over, then at 9 weeks I went to the loo and had brown discharge, I sunk to the floor and cried my eyes out, that's how both the losses started and I thought it was over for sure, I was devastated, but I had a scan booked the same day and thank god there was little Brooklyn bobbing his head and moving his legs, it was hard right up to the end but as he started to move (I felt him soooo early at 10 weeks, like a wriggle) more it got easier, at 34 weeks he was quiet all day totally unlike him so I went and got monitored overnight and he was absolutely fine, the bfp is only the start babe isn't it!! Then you have to get through the rest, definitely one day at a time and don't worry about mild cramps (totally normal) or symptoms coming and going (mine did the whole 12 first weeks) always here for you anytime you're worried or need to talk xxxxxxxxx
AFM still no rise! Still bd but weekends are harder so annoying I've not o yet! Its now 72 hours since my peak so if I don't today I'm not sure I will xxxxxx

 

[Sunshine14]

Aw sweetheart I totally, totally understand, anyone that has been through what you (we) have been through is going to find it hard, be kind to yourself, its so hard to be super positive all the time, after two losses (12 then 11 weeks) I conceived Brooklyn and was a bit of a wreck in the beginning, I remember my sickness completely disappeared for a week at 8 weeks and I convinced myself it was all over, then at 9 weeks I went to the loo and had brown discharge, I sunk to the floor and cried my eyes out, that's how both the losses started and I thought it was over for sure, I was devastated, but I had a scan booked the same day and thank god there was little Brooklyn bobbing his head and moving his legs, it was hard right up to the end but as he started to move (I felt him soooo early at 10 weeks, like a wriggle) more it got easier, at 34 weeks he was quiet all day totally unlike him so I went and got monitored overnight and he was absolutely fine, the bfp is only the start babe isn't it!! Then you have to get through the rest, definitely one day at a time and don't worry about mild cramps (totally normal) or symptoms coming and going (mine did the whole 12 first weeks) always here for you anytime you're worried or need to talk xxxxxxxxx
AFM still no rise! Still bd but weekends are harder so annoying I've not o yet! Its now 72 hours since my peak so if I don't today I'm not sure I will xxxxxx

thanks so much Becks -- it's so lovely to have someone who has been through what I'm going through & ur message made me feel a lot better -- u r right the bfp is just the start isn't it!! I was reading last night that if you get a hb then it's 78% chance of successful pregnancy so will just have to get to my scan!! I said to my honey last night that I wanted a hb at the scan & healthy baby for xmas -- poor bloke!! Anyway how r u today? Did you get ur temp rise yet showing u O'd hun???? Hope ur ok xx

 

[Oasis717]

Yes that's totally right your chances rocket after seeing a HB! I've absolutely everything crossed for you xxxx and you're welcome I mean it, anytime, I'm not feeling super confident as thanks to that daft fertility monitor (won't be using again) it gave me high fertility CD 9, peak fertility CD 12 but I didn't ovulate til my usual CD 15 (yest ). So it advises bd on all of your high and peak fertile days but most of our bd was around CD 10,11,12 although we did still bd twice a day other days. Sigh, I won't be using anything next cycle, I know my body well and like today my cm dries up the day after I o and I o around CD 15 every cycle, so I shall be relying on my cm and libido lol. I desperately want a bfp for Xmas, prob more than I admit to myself but if I don't I'm going to concentrate on loosing weight without keep falling off the wagon and if its meant too be its meant to be! Stay strong, you've got every chance, remember each new pregnancy is a fresh start xxxx

 

[Sunshine14]

Thanks hun xx after 4 mc's in a row I just don't believe I have any eggs left to end in a healthy baba! I keep thinking back to my other healthy kiddies & the PG's all seemed so much easier & much more carefree (I know I was always nervous until the nuchal scan but then I relaxed) whereas these days it all seems so hard - hard getting the bfp, then waiting for a cp, then waiting for a hb - aghhhh!! But I do think ur right though I just have to stay strong. At least Christmas will be a geat distraction and make the time go much faster hopefully - we went santy shopping today & got a good bit done so that was a relief!! I tested yesterday on a digi & it said pregnant 1-2 weeks so my head was a bit wrecked by that as well as according to lmp I shoud have got a reading of 2-3 weeks -- I suppose the other thing I need to do is stop over analysing everything! & sray away from google!! lol - yeah right lol.

As for u hun I think it sounds like u got a ton of bding in & u have a really great chance this month - firstly sperm lives for up to 5/7 days so if u were dtd 10,11,12 & then a couple of times a day for next couple of days then I think u have everything covered! Also from the stuff I have read it is the bding 2 or 3 days before O that really makes a difference cos it means the sperm are waiting for the egg when it pops out & also they have a chance to go through the specific process that makes them able to fuse with the egg. I think u have it well covered hun & just sit back and relax now & enjoy the run up to xmas! I think ur right too not to mess with all that crap - just get on and dtd & it will happen - if u know when u O just make sure loads of bding & it will happen -- just remember u had little Brooklyn 1 year ago and have had 2 cp's since - so ur body is trying & just have to get a sticky, healthy one xx anyway hun I'm bloody knackered at the moment (taking that as a good sign!) so off to bed early in a min xx take it easy - I really do think u did eveyrthing u could & I have everything xd for ur BFP xxxxxxxxxx

 

[LuvallmyH]

Sunshine, it was so difficult for me to be happy about this pregnancy at first. I felt anxiety like I have never felt before. I couldn't say I was pregnant out loud. We didn't tell very many people and the ones we did tell I avoided talking to. I think I was just waiting for the rug to be pulled out from under me again. Even as I started feeling more and more symptoms, I acted like there was a non pregnancy related reason for them. Basically I was a mess. I got some reassurance at my scan at 7w. I got to see a little blob and a nice strong hb. Then when my morning sickness kicked in full force it got easier again. Now at 10w I am feeling much more hopeful. My next hurdle is the first trimester scan in 3 weeks. Because honestly at our age it is a legitimate concern. I think once I get past that and everything looks healthy I will breathe a huge sigh of relief. Truthfully I'm glad this is the last time I will do this. The stress has been very hard on me.

It will get easier, you just need to give it time. And it's ok to feel however you are feeling. You have already been through so much. When you get to the end and have a beautiful baby in your arms it will all be water under the bridge. Until then, we are all here for you every step of the way

 

[Oasis717]

I hope you both have healthy happy pregnancies, its so hard not to worry, impossible really but try to stay positive you both have a great chance I'm not feeling so hopeful for me I don't know why! I think its prob just trying to disconnect from the disappointment a bit but I'm always here rooting for you both xxxxxx

 

[Sunshine14]

Ahh thanks Luv and thanks Oasis, you are both so sweet - I haven't told anyone in 'real life' that I am PG so it's amazing to have you both to chat to especially as u both understand how scary this whole ttc thing is at our age! Luv I have everything xd for ur scan in 3 weeks & I'm praying u get the all clear -- it is hard at our age as there is a higher chance of something going wrong but also lots of women do have perfectly healthy babies so we have to stay +. U have to let us know when ur scan is sweetie?
xx

Becks stay + and don't think of urself as out unless u get af! U have to get lucky break soon hun with a sticky baba - how many dpo are u now hun? Any sypmtoms or how u doing hun?

Afm - hmmmm -- should be 5 weeks today by LMP -- did a digi Sunday & it said 1-2 weeks, did another last night & it said 1-2 weeks & another this am (thinking hcg would be stronger in the morning) & still said 1-2 weeks -- so no progression!!!!! If I am 5 weeks today surely it should say 2-3 weeks by now if not 3+ -- agh ............. don't know what to think really - sorry for tmi but keep expecting to see blood when I wipe after the loo but nothing yet - but just feels like it's not progressing!! I did read somewhere new egg + new sperm = new pregnancy so trying to focus on that but really hope to get 2-3 on digi ..........

 

[LuvallmyH]

Ahh thanks Luv and thanks Oasis, you are both so sweet - I haven't told anyone in 'real life' that I am PG so it's amazing to have you both to chat to especially as u both understand how scary this whole ttc thing is at our age! Luv I have everything xd for ur scan in 3 weeks & I'm praying u get the all clear -- it is hard at our age as there is a higher chance of something going wrong but also lots of women do have perfectly healthy babies so we have to stay +. U have to let us know when ur scan is sweetie?
xx

Becks stay + and don't think of urself as out unless u get af! U have to get lucky break soon hun with a sticky baba - how many dpo are u now hun? Any sypmtoms or how u doing hun?

Afm - hmmmm -- should be 5 weeks today by LMP -- did a digi Sunday & it said 1-2 weeks, did another last night & it said 1-2 weeks & another this am (thinking hcg would be stronger in the morning) & still said 1-2 weeks -- so no progression!!!!! If I am 5 weeks today surely it should say 2-3 weeks by now if not 3+ -- agh ............. don't know what to think really - sorry for tmi but keep expecting to see blood when I wipe after the loo but nothing yet - but just feels like it's not progressing!! I did read somewhere new egg + new sperm = new pregnancy so trying to focus on that but really hope to get 2-3 on digi ..........

My scan is January 5th.

I have read so many stories about those tests just not working properly. I can understand you concern though. Can you have blood drawn to check your numbers? I have also read a lot of stories when it jumps from 1-2 to 3+ in a day btw. Mine did not show 3+ until I was over 5w. And I was absolutely sure of my O date.

 

[Sunshine14]

Thanks Luv that makes me feel soo much better! I was getting paranoid that bleeding was going to start soon - I did a normal PG test tonight & it went + straight away so the hcg must be quite high -- those bloody digis are expensive as well -- I might leave it to next week and then test again - my scan is on 30 : ) I will have everything xd for u hunny on 5th xx

 

[Oasis717]

Honestly I've read that many stories about those darn digis causing uneccessary worry, even on my over 40 thread I've been on for 2 years the lady that started the thread got a 1/2 when she should have got 2/3 and it scared the hell out of her, her little girl is 8 weeks older than Brooklyn now!! I think they aren't reliable at all so please don't worry. Ff changed my ovulation date from CD 15 to CD 11 but that's not right I don't think, I don't think I'm 9dpo I think I'm 5 dpo but I'm not v hopeful really, I've tried to be but I can't! Thank you though xxxx

 

[Nikki1979]

Hi Sunshine..like luvallmyh and oasis said, I wouldn't worry about the conception indicator tests. I remember reading on another thread a while back about a woman who tested and got a 1-2 weeks and when she used another test using the same urine, she got a 3+.

I know its hard to relax but keep faith that everything will be okay.

 

[Nikki1979]

Oasis - I think I am 4dpo today. We are cycle buddies.

 

[Oasis717]

Really that's great Nikki, its nice to have someone to wait with, wishing you lots of luck xxx

 

[Sunshine14]

Thanks Nikki & Becks xx I did some googling and ur both correct there are loads of stories about women not getting the right weeks - it's probably a ploy on clearblue's part to make u buy more of them!! I have run out of tests now anyway - done ever single test in the house & really I have to just wait for the scan now a week Tuesday! I finished work for 2 weeks anyway so mega happy to be able to chill out a bit -- we are off to Santas fsrm on Monday so should be fun - but I have a bl**dy cold again - great just in time for xmas!!

Becks I think u must be 6dpo today -- keep in mind u said u had cm & high libido which disappeared around cd15 so u can't have O'd on cd11 - didn't u say u always O around cd 14 like clockwork these days? - so ignore whatever is telling u u O'd earlier. Its probably too early for symptoms anyway but have u noticed anything hun? Hoping and praying for a bfp for u hun for ur christmas pressie xxxx

Nikki fingers xd this is ur month too hun & thanks for the reassurance on the digis - it's so easy to worry about every little thing after 4 mc's! But realy I won't know whats going on until scan on 30th .......