Its June!!!!! 20 week scan next month!!! Whos with me?

Hi guys, still no baby.. I'm having a pretty awful time here, contractions every 7 mins from 1am that were soooo much more painful there was no way I was sleeping so I was up til 6 but they never got any closer together. Labour and delivery told me at 5 when I rang not to go in until my waters break or contractions are 5mins apart. I fell asleep at 6, because I was totally shattered, woke up half an hour later and the contractions had completely gone. Nothing. Now I'm getting Braxton hicks 10 mins apart but they're not painful. I just don't understand how I can have 5 hours of regular agonising contractions and then nothing!?

Inoue omg reimi is here!!!! That's amazing can't wait to see a pic :) how was labour??

Hope your catheter gets sorted sarah bless you!!!
 
No way Sarah, that's crazy!! She was either going to be Daisy or Millie but as soon as we saw her we knew Millie suited her the best :) sorry you're having catheter/pee problems hun, hope it's sorted soon :hugs:

Inoue, that's awful :nope: you should put in a complaint, and really kick off. How dare they say shit like that and especially when you can hear them :wacko: I'd have hit the roof. Hope you're out of there and home soon :hugs:

Pops sorry you're having a tough time too, sounds like you're coping tremendously though so well done :hugs: get lots of rest so you can get home and be with your lovely little family <3

Our first night home was brilliant :) Millie fed for aaaaaages it seemed but then slept from 11.30-12.30 and then from 1-6.50am so I'm feeling nice and refreshed! BF'ing is going great too, I'm so pleased after all the problems I had with Amber. The MW has just left and is happy with me and Millie's cord and overall health on sight, she checked our latch and said it's perfect and eased my fears about colostrum being enough until my milk comes in, which will hopefully be tomorrow as I have had a couple of panics over it all and hardly any wet nappies etc, but it's all normal apparently!

We are about to get the double buggy out and take the girls for a little walk :)
 
Massive congratulations inoue! so sorry to hear the mw's are awful, hope u can get out of there soon. i hope your nipples get better quickly too xx

lauryn- glad u had a good night, and breastfeeding is going well x

sarah- oh my gosh sounds like u r having an horrendous time- a trip to the hospital needed? huge hugs x

time- u poor thing, when do they next see u, its a shame u cant check how dilated u r x
 
I'm at the midwifes in the morning so if all else fails she will check me then to see how dilated I am. I'd be horrified if I'm not at all. If you start dilating I presume you won't go backwards again before labour??!!
 
I would be very very shocked if you wernt dilated at all hun. As far as I know, you can't go back on progress so anything your body has done should still be there tommorrow.

Well, I failed my trial without catheter :( after a bladder scan, it showed that I am 650mls in retention currently :( so I've got another one in now for another week then it's back to do the same thing again, have it taken out, drink water, attempt to pee, etc :(

Feel like a little old lady currently with this :( apparently it was forced in during the birth which has caused trauma to my bladder :( hooray.
 
Oh Time, them contractions sounded so possitive :(. You did well to have them 7 mins apart! I went from 4cm-8cm dilated on 5-8min contractions. Hope she tells you tomorrow what condition your cervix is in and how dilated you are. You sound sooooo close!

Thanks for all the lovey messages huni's :hugs:. Im finally home now but totally fucked up my BF :nope:. Im not to clever at getting her latched on (hard work and frustrating) so I held off feeding her at hosp till I got discharged, that was like 8 hours later, cant believe I let her go without food that long :nope:. We got home and I tried EVERYTHING to get her interested in boob but she didnt want any of it so after another 15 mins of me thinking she's going to starve I got marc to make up a newborn formula. With persuasion she had a 90ml feed and im so happy I got something into her but now I feel awful that I used formula because I wanted to get home so badly :(. I did the right thing didnt I in giving her something to drink, regardless what it was? Xxx
 
Sarah what a pain :hugs: I hope the trial next week goes better and you have it taken out.

Time, FX'd for your appointment. I'll be very surprised if you haven't progressed further :flower:

Inoue, as long as she's eating its fine hun. Don't beat yourself up over it :hugs:
 
Sarah- sorry to hear about your catheter problems, i really hope that it'll all be good in a weeks time, must be so frustrating and painful, hugs xx

Inoue- Poppy didnt feed very well in hospital, she went about 11 hours without food in there she just wanted to sleep and no amount of MW trying to force my boob in her mouth helped. As long as she's eating thats all that matters. You could keep trying with bf though at each feed, it took a good couple of days for Poppy to be interested properly x

Time- hope all is good with you, really hoping you are in hospital now in the middle of labour! x

Kellie- hope all is good with you, how was your night? x

Pops- hope you are recovering well, are you out of hospital yet? x
 
Hi ladies!!

Ok Flynn is asleep so here goest story :)

Started getting painful contractions 12 midnight on Sunday so decided to start timing them. They were fairly regular, every 7-8 mins and painful. Fairly straight forward labouring at home, they got worse and closer together, I used my tens and had paracetamol and a bath, and then headed to hospital at 7am.

When I arrived the water birthing room was free, was really chuffed, checked me and I was 2cm, very favourable and so she gave me a sweep and my show came fast and heavy, very blood tinged which she said was great, and she left me to progress and using my tens. By midday I was 4cm, got in the pool, gas and air, all going well!

Then my contractions changed and I started getting this horrendous pain in my thighs, which wasn't going when each contraction finished. This pain got worse and worse, I've not ever felt anything like it and i started getting a bit delirious! Then his HB dropped right down and I had to get out of the pool, contractions and thigh pain getting worse, he wasn't happy and eventually they told me I had to have an epidural.

Had that, by which point lee said I was in another world I was so delirious, but once that kicked in I felt loads better nd started to feel like abnormal person again, by this point I was 6cm dilated.

I carried in progressing, dozed off a bit and at 7pm I was 8cm, but I'd started to get this awful pain down the side of my body on the left, mainly on my hip, like a trapped nerve. It hurt so much that I didn't know what to do with myself but couldn't feel anything else because of the epidural. Had a top up but that didn't work on the side pain, it was awful :-(

Checked again at 9pm, they broke my waters and I was 9cm. By 11 I was fully dilated and they gave me 2 hours to rest/ sleep while the head travelled down before I started pushing.

Started pushing at 11.20pm and went at it for 2 hours. At this point the doctor came in and told me that he wasn't travelling down the birth canal properly and I needed a forceps delivery, and a c sec if that didn't work. I told her I was very determined and would push him out if it was the last thing I did! 10 mins later I was in theatre.

Firstly they tried to suck him out (vontuze, spelling?) three times. When that didn't work the got the forceps, but my pelvis was too small for the position he was in, she couldn't turn him so she decided emergency csection. Problem was he was almost out so they had to push him back up me to get him out.

Worse thing was I felt everything on my left, not my right just my left, and not just the pressure but actual pain. And then once he was out he wasn't breathing and didn't cry for over a minute. Hearing that cry was the best thing in the world! However they then cleaned me out and put me back together and I swear I felt it all it was bloody awful.

They bought him over to us, is asked to see the sex for myself, and you guys were right, a little boy! I saw his willy and his full head of hair and just knew that was my baby, a girl wouldn't have been right after all, he had always been a boy, I now can't imagine it any other way! Flynn Leo Rubin was born at 4.10am on his due date 27.11.12 weighing 8lb 2oz and he is quite literally the most beautiful thing I've ever seen. <3

Things have been really tough since then though. He was so traumatised he couldn't feed properly the first day and ended up v dehydrated. I was in agony from not just c sec but 2 hours of pushing and attempted forceps delivery. Feeding has got worse, turns out he has a tongue tie (hopefully being sorted Monday) and I have quote flat nipples making it so hard to get him to latch on so I've had to express colustrum and now milk to make sure he's fed and its exhausting. I desperately want to breast feed, always have, and am determined but can absolutely see why people give up so soon as its so upsetting for both me and him that something that is meant to be so natural is so hard, milk has come in now too so boobs are hard and full and even harder to work with when getting him to latch on.

To top it all off weds night my stomach was so bloated an full of trapped wind that I looked bigger than I had done at 9 months pregnant, and throughout the evening it became more and more painful. By 10pm I was writhing on the bed in agony, the pain was I swear worse than labour! Turns out I had a distended stomach, my bowels hasn't started working again after the op and has shut down and I was so full of air that it couldn't come out, even sipping water was making it worse, as I result I was nil by mouth back on a drip. I finally farted yesterday morning, best feeling ever!!!

So anyway we have been through the wars a bit here but he is worth every single second, I could look at him for days on end :) hopefully going home today although may be tomorrow morning.

Anyway sorry it's so long! Thanks for all your lovely messages and support, photos on fb!

Lauryn, love little Millie and that her and Flynn share the same bday! Inoue congrats on beautiful Reimi, she is a little cutie, and i so wouldn't worry about giving her formula as long as she is fed and hydrated that's all that matters. Ally hope poppy is still doing brilliantly, Kellie how's Oliver, I saw on fb he was congested?

Finally time, come on wren! Sending you lots of love and support, good luck, well be waiting!

Lots of love xxxxx
 
Hi ladies!!

Ok Flynn is asleep so here goest story :)

Started getting painful contractions 12 midnight on Sunday so decided to start timing them. They were fairly regular, every 7-8 mins and painful. Fairly straight forward labouring at home, they got worse and closer together, I used my tens and had paracetamol and a bath, and then headed to hospital at 7am.

When I arrived the water birthing room was free, was really chuffed, checked me and I was 2cm, very favourable and so she gave me a sweep and my show came fast and heavy, very blood tinged which she said was great, and she left me to progress and using my tens. By midday I was 4cm, got in the pool, gas and air, all going well!

Then my contractions changed and I started getting this horrendous pain in my thighs, which wasn't going when each contraction finished. This pain got worse and worse, I've not ever felt anything like it and i started getting a bit delirious! Then his HB dropped right down and I had to get out of the pool, contractions and thigh pain getting worse, he wasn't happy and eventually they told me I had to have an epidural.

Had that, by which point lee said I was in another world I was so delirious, but once that kicked in I felt loads better nd started to feel like abnormal person again, by this point I was 6cm dilated.

I carried in progressing, dozed off a bit and at 7pm I was 8cm, but I'd started to get this awful pain down the side of my body on the left, mainly on my hip, like a trapped nerve. It hurt so much that I didn't know what to do with myself but couldn't feel anything else because of the epidural. Had a top up but that didn't work on the side pain, it was awful :-(

Checked again at 9pm, they broke my waters and I was 9cm. By 11 I was fully dilated and they gave me 2 hours to rest/ sleep while the head travelled down before I started pushing.

Started pushing at 11.20pm and went at it for 2 hours. At this point the doctor came in and told me that he wasn't travelling down the birth canal properly and I needed a forceps delivery, and a c sec if that didn't work. I told her I was very determined and would push him out if it was the last thing I did! 10 mins later I was in theatre.

Firstly they tried to suck him out (vontuze, spelling?) three times. When that didn't work the got the forceps, but my pelvis was too small for the position he was in, she couldn't turn him so she decided emergency csection. Problem was he was almost out so they had to push him back up me to get him out.

Worse thing was I felt everything on my left, not my right just my left, and not just the pressure but actual pain. And then once he was out he wasn't breathing and didn't cry for over a minute. Hearing that cry was the best thing in the world! However they then cleaned me out and put me back together and I swear I felt it all it was bloody awful.

They bought him over to us, is asked to see the sex for myself, and you guys were right, a little boy! I saw his willy and his full head of hair and just knew that was my baby, a girl wouldn't have been right after all, he had always been a boy, I now can't imagine it any other way! Flynn Leo Rubin was born at 4.10am on his due date 27.11.12 weighing 8lb 2oz and he is quite literally the most beautiful thing I've ever seen. <3

Things have been really tough since then though. He was so traumatised he couldn't feed properly the first day and ended up v dehydrated. I was in agony from not just c sec but 2 hours of pushing and attempted forceps delivery. Feeding has got worse, turns out he has a tongue tie (hopefully being sorted Monday) and I have quote flat nipples making it so hard to get him to latch on so I've had to express colustrum and now milk to make sure he's fed and its exhausting. I desperately want to breast feed, always have, and am determined but can absolutely see why people give up so soon as its so upsetting for both me and him that something that is meant to be so natural is so hard, milk has come in now too so boobs are hard and full and even harder to work with when getting him to latch on.

To top it all off weds night my stomach was so bloated an full of trapped wind that I looked bigger than I had done at 9 months pregnant, and throughout the evening it became more and more painful. By 10pm I was writhing on the bed in agony, the pain was I swear worse than labour! Turns out I had a distended stomach, my bowels hasn't started working again after the op and has shut down and I was so full of air that it couldn't come out, even sipping water was making it worse, as I result I was nil by mouth back on a drip. I finally farted yesterday morning, best feeling ever!!!

So anyway we have been through the wars a bit here but he is worth every single second, I could look at him for days on end :) hopefully going home today although may be tomorrow morning.

Anyway sorry it's so long! Thanks for all your lovely messages and support, photos on fb!

Lauryn, love little Millie and that her and Flynn share the same bday! Inoue congrats on beautiful Reimi, she is a little cutie, and i so wouldn't worry about giving her formula as long as she is fed and hydrated that's all that matters. Ally hope poppy is still doing brilliantly, Kellie how's Oliver, I saw on fb he was congested?

Finally time, come on wren! Sending you lots of love and support, good luck, well be waiting!

Lots of love xxxxx
 
Lovely detailed birth plan pops, however traumatic, the feeling of love looking at your child is overwhelming. I still stare at Reimi's little facial features and see so much of myself in her, its amazing. Im still giving her breast (to start with) then if shes not happy after that feed and im wracked in pain then I give her a 2-3oz bottle of newborn milk. She seems alot more content, just not sure what the mw is going to say when I inform her later on today at home visit x
 
Ok, so totally having a cry over your posts :hugs: so sad how all your births have been so traumatic

Pops, thank you for sharing your story. It's absolutely horrendous reading what you have been through. What the hell was the pain in your thighs and side? Have they given any explanation? I saw the bruise on Flynn head so assumed they tried ventouse, how is he doing from that? I can't even begin to imagine how much pain you are in at the moment, I know the after pain from forceps, etc from my first but that combined with a c section.... You poor thing :nope: but Flynn is absolutely gorgeous and a complete star for coming on his due date :flower: I really hope you get to go home very soon x

Inoue, sweetie don't worry about the formula! It's the most heartbreaking thing to want to feed so badly, but seeing them hungry and crying is worse and as long as they are fed that's all that matters. You can always combine feed and give formula top up or express so you can see how much is actually getting to baby. My breastfeeding lady has one girl who can only express 5ml a day, and she says that is enough to pass baby the antibodies. I think there is too much pressure on breast is best, and there shouldn't be this guilt if you give formula. Also, when you have a traumatic birth, in my opinion I think that can also affect breastfeeding. I know with Luke when he wouldn't latch I didn't care about giving formula, he had been through enough and I wanted him fed the easiest way for him. And the way the midwives spoke about you is disgraceful, make sure you feed back a complaint x

Sarah, I'm so so sorry to her you still having catheter problems. It absolutely sucks that you have to deal with this on top of all you went through. I hope you heal quickly and can get back to weeing soon. Damn, why don't they think of these things when they are doing these procedures, I don't get why they had to force that in? Must be a pain dragging the bag round with you. Did they say anything about your bleeding? X

Time, I really really really hope you are in labour! :hugs:

Hi ally, had a amazing nights sleep last night, only 1 feed during the night, so I managed 7 HOURS of sleep! Woohoo! How are you doing? X

Lauryn, glad to see all is well with you and breastfeeding is going well x

Oliver has a very snuffly nose at the moment, I'm debating a humidifier. Does anyone know anything about them? Should I go for hot or cold? He seems worse in our room at night, I have raised the mattress with some blankets which helped last night as he slept well when he eventually dropped off. It's horrible seeing a tiny baby trying to breath. I can't believe he will be a month old next week! I'm thinking of giving up expressing, my milk is getting less and less, and he is so unsatisfied by it that its always immediately followed by another 3oz of formula. I feel a bit selfish though for thinking of quitting so soon but it's so time consuming with a toddler too. I feel bad enough at the moment for Luke as he doesn't get all the attention anymore!

Huge hugs to all you amazingly brave ladies xxx
 
Oh pops :( you really have been through it eh :( I'm so sorry it was as horrific as that for you :( I got the same pain that you are on about in my thighs. They said it was nervy pain because Logan was back to back... He hadn't been at all before I have birth to him, he decided to swap around after my waters went. Maybe that could have happened to you too? The pain was horrific from it and it sounds just like you described.

I will get around to writing up my birth story too, I think it may help me cope a little with things.

Kellie, I totally understand you on the not sure weather to give up. I'm pumping too to give Logan a bottle of mine a day and have been told to pump 8 times a day to keep supply up and I'm struggling to find the time. I have no idea how you do it with a toddler as well, that's some dedication tbh and you should feel proud for doing it as long as you have, not guilty for stopping :)

Inoue please don't worry hun. Logan was a really iffy feeder in hospital and I just couldn't keep him full - it's one of the worst feelings in the world looking at your child as they scream for food and you can't give it to them. You've done the right thing, formula is better than no food by a long shot, don't beat yourself up sweet. You did what you thought was best for little Reimi :)

Thank you for your support everyone, hoping this gets sorted soon tbh :( had a massive meltdown last night, my catheter bag came off and resulted in pee being everywhere... Pushed me over the edge a little...so spent the next half hour screaming at Neil about how disgusting I am and how could he love someone so defective :( feel a bit better now after having that tantrum. I guess I never really saw myself sat with a catheter at 25 years old. Bleh lol hopefully it's not around for much longer.

Any news from time? She has to be on labour by now surely?!
 
pops- massive hugs to u, your birth experience sounds awful, i can relate to some of it from Izzy's birth, give yourself plenty of rest if u can, and ask for a debrief of the birth experience sooner rather than later to find out exactly what happened.

Inoue- isnt it funny how we are scared to tell the mw things when they r our babies!!!! We give Poppy a bottle of formula at night (so i can have a stretch of sleep as Dave stays up to give it to her) and i havent told the mw, and i hide all the evidence when they come round! U r her mummy, she's content so u r doing the right thing.

kellie- yay for your sleep last night. I really dont know how u find time to pump, i have started trying to do it today as i was going to try and do the last feed Dave does with expressed milk rather than formula, and god it is so hard! And very disheartening that after 20-30 mins pumping i have an oz!

sarah- huge huge hugs xxxxxx i cant imagine going through what u r, think u needed that scream and cry to get it out of your system- have they given more of an explanation on why on earth its happened!?

Time- hope u have your baby now x

Lauryn- hope all is good with u and your little family x
 
Thanks ladies, you're all awesome :)

Have had massive success today with BFing, introduced nipple shields and Flynn has been feeding perfectly ever since. Basically my nipples are slightly flat and this has meant he can draw them out. Perfect, so simple, I'm so thrilled. Leaving to go home in the morning, yippee! Xxx
 
Pops that's amazing! Sometimes it's the smallest things that make the most difference isn't it. How are you feeling now? Hope they have the pain under control for you and you are as comfortable as you can be right now xxx

Yeah I think I needed to just get it out :( it's been making me feel pretty low, didn't mention it before to him as I know his first thought would be PND which it isn't. It's literally just depression because of what's happening to me right now not anything to do with Logan.

All they have said to me is that it's because it was put in in a stressed environment, so they've basically crammed it in and broken something which is amazing of them... :(

How are you doing ally?
 
Pops- well done! So pleased you have managed it with nipple shields, and they are letting you out this morning! x

Sarah- u r bound to feel down about it, nothing to do with PND its not a nice situation to be in, not to mention painful. grrrrr to them just cramming it in, i honestly think in alot of these situations they dont think about the women and their recovery! hows the gorgeous logan? x

we are doing ok, i am so exhausted with the breastfeeding! last night she fed about every hr and didnt settle at all! yawn! i am thinking it could be the 3 week growth spurt?

kellie- hows oliver? is he still all stuffed up? x

time- where are you????? lol x

inoue- hope u r well and reimi x

lauryn- hope u and your girls are well x

i do apologise for the lack of capital letters i am feeding so just have one free hand! x
 
I was warned that Logan would want to feed pretty much every hour at around 3 weeks If we were breast feeding, so it does sound like that's what you might be hitting now. My breast feeding support lady said it would last around 48 hours so try and get some rest whenever you can today :) x

Logan is great thank you :) our little cuddle monster! Seems to just want to settle on either me or Neil and give him a chance and he will sit there for hours. I don't mind though as he's just too cute :)
 
Hi ladies :hi:.

Keep stalking to see Time's announcement, lol. Hope your doing alright sweetie <3

Im doing full combi feeding with Reimi. I offer her boob and she has a little go for 5-10 mins but thats no way enough so we then give her 2oz of formula. I was in tears when I told the mw yesterday and she gave me a hug and said "do you think im going to shout at you?! Its your baby, you do whats needed", I sooooo needed to hear that so im happy doing both. I only can use one breast through as the other one is badly damaged with blood blisters and scabs so my poor other boob is taking the brunt force. Still only having colostrum, really want milk to kick in so I can pump express and then use bottles exclusively.

Sarah, your such a trooper. Horrible to think they just handled you like a piece of meat and now your paying for it. Your doing a fab job and little Logan im sure is pleased to be around his possitive mummy. Keep it up gal :winkwink:

Pops, I tried nipple shields but Reimi hated it :(. The distance between my nipple and the end of the shild is huge (about 7mm) so shes unable to feed. What brand have you got?

Bug hugs to Scally, Kellie, Lolly - hope your all doing ok :hugs:

Xx
 
Your doing so well Inoue, honestly you are. By offering Reimi the breast too, your still getting the stimulation needed to kick things into action with regards to the milk. If you keep doing what your doing I bet when your milk comes in, you'll be offering less and less formula after she's been on you until eventually she is dependant soley on the boob. The most important part is apparently the stimulation to keep things flowing, and your doing that with every feed you give her. So think of the formula more as a temporary solution to keep her hunger free :)

Your midwife sounds lovely though, I was so scared of being told off for swapping to bottles with an expressed feed at night but mine took the same attitude as yours, it's your baby, as long as they are happy, the midwives are happy :) so yeah, keep doing what your doing lovely :) little Reimi is being fed and your doing wonders for your supply at the same time :)

Thank you :) I'm trying my best for the little man. I get down every now and again but then I just look at him and I realise why I'm going through what I am. Totally worth it :) x
 

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