IUI Jan/Feb/March/Apr/May 2012 - Status updates on page one 12 bfp

[Kinerie]

Took this info right off a fertility webpage.
"Women are born with a set number of eggs. As they age the number and quality of eggs decreases. One of the ways doctors check to see the quality of eggs that a mom has is by testing her FSH level. Basically FSH goes up in response to a negative feedback loop. Meaning as a woman's eggs start to diminish in quality or number, her body will in turn make more FSH to compensate. The egg itself communicates with the women's body to tell it to make certain hormones. So testing a woman's hormone levels can help determine the quantity and quality of eggs a woman has."

Exactly. FSH is a marker for lower ovarian reserve and, really, doesn't matter. However, the meds can't be administered as they will increase the level even more..Perfect example of a vicious circle..

 

[Hopeful42nd]

Kinerie- sorry you are facing all of this. I'm doing research to see if there is anything out there to help, but I hate tryng to support people blindly. I think your nurse may be telling you its not impossible. I have just been reading stories from some ladies with levels like 50 or higher and they were able to conceive. I think the IUI is just optimizing the chances you do have and maybe just timing thing perfectly with BDwould be fine too.

 

[Kinerie]

Kinerie - Quality is way more important than Quantity. I only had one follicle this month and look What was the sperm count, motility, progression? There is a lot of hope for you, unless you want twins or triplets? Oh, and I am not on meds. All my IUIs have been unmedicated except I got a trigger this time and start progesterone 2 dpo. There is still hope! This is my 2nd out of 4 all unmedicated and I am 38.

Honestly, I would be grateful for anything (well, maybe not triplets
No issues with the sperm at all, the numbers are way beyond excellent. It is my silly sleepy ovaries which simply don't want to wake up and come out to play!!!

That is why I am upset - the injectibles increase the numbers AND the quality of the eggs...Mine are probably all nicotine and paint fumes saturated, stumbling on high heels somewhere in the dark corners of my ovaries, throwing up last night's champagne and giggling at me, thinking they are so smart making such a fool of me - kids for you, ha?

 

[froliky2011]

Kinerie - check this out:

https://www.medhelp.org/posts/Pregnancy-35/High-FSH-Levels/show/100478

 

[Kinerie]

Kinerie - Quality is way more important than Quantity. I only had one follicle this month and look What was the sperm count, motility, progression? There is a lot of hope for you, unless you want twins or triplets? Oh, and I am not on meds. All my IUIs have been unmedicated except I got a trigger this time and start progesterone 2 dpo. There is still hope! This is my 2nd out of 4 all unmedicated and I am 38.

Hmmmm.....Alright, just for you, Froliky, I will give it a try naturally...
I had to get of the chair and put away the rope to respond to your message

 

[froliky2011]

Kinerie - Quality is way more important than Quantity. I only had one follicle this month and look What was the sperm count, motility, progression? There is a lot of hope for you, unless you want twins or triplets? Oh, and I am not on meds. All my IUIs have been unmedicated except I got a trigger this time and start progesterone 2 dpo. There is still hope! This is my 2nd out of 4 all unmedicated and I am 38.

Hmmmm.....Alright, just for you, Froliky, I will give it a try naturally...
I had to get of the chair and put away the rope to respond to your message

That link I gave gives hope too and the book I discussed earlier, "The Fertile Female" by Julia Indichova is a great resource, especially for women like you who are told shit that makes them feel less than, etc. I found it very informative, inspirational and it gave me hope not just for myself but for a lot of women on these threads struggling with TTC.

 

[Kinerie]

Kinerie - Quality is way more important than Quantity. I only had one follicle this month and look What was the sperm count, motility, progression? There is a lot of hope for you, unless you want twins or triplets? Oh, and I am not on meds. All my IUIs have been unmedicated except I got a trigger this time and start progesterone 2 dpo. There is still hope! This is my 2nd out of 4 all unmedicated and I am 38.

Unmedicated, one follicle...Maybe you are right, there is hope for me...

 

[froliky2011]

Kinerie - I guess most women recommend "Inconceivable" by Julia Indichova too. They both have references/resources of what to take etc. to help you conceive depending upon your challenges. High FSH levels is definitely not a death sentence.

 

[Kinerie]

Kinerie - check this out:

https://www.medhelp.org/posts/Pregnancy-35/High-FSH-Levels/show/100478

This is unbelievable..I was on this site literally 30 minutes ago! You are absolutely right, reading it did make me feel a bit better, thank you so much for support and encouragement...

 

[Kinerie]

Kinerie - Quality is way more important than Quantity. I only had one follicle this month and look What was the sperm count, motility, progression? There is a lot of hope for you, unless you want twins or triplets? Oh, and I am not on meds. All my IUIs have been unmedicated except I got a trigger this time and start progesterone 2 dpo. There is still hope! This is my 2nd out of 4 all unmedicated and I am 38.

Hmmmm.....Alright, just for you, Froliky, I will give it a try naturally...
I had to get of the chair and put away the rope to respond to your message

That link I gave gives hope too and the book I discussed earlier, "The Fertile Female" by Julia Indichova is a great resource, especially for women like you who are told shit that makes them feel less than, etc. I found it very informative, inspirational and it gave me hope not just for myself but for a lot of women on these threads struggling with TTC.

Yes, the other book has been mentioned somewhere by the same author is called "Inconceivable", will def. order them and share the thoughts! Thanks again..

 

[froliky2011]

Kinerie - check this out:

https://www.medhelp.org/posts/Pregnancy-35/High-FSH-Levels/show/100478

This is unbelievable..I was on this site literally 30 minutes ago! You are absolutely right, reading it did make me feel a bit better, thank you so much for support and encouragement...

No problem. That is why we are here. To support each other in the depths of f&cking despair. Is this your first child?

 

[Kinerie]

Kinerie - check this out:

https://www.medhelp.org/posts/Pregnancy-35/High-FSH-Levels/show/100478

This is unbelievable..I was on this site literally 30 minutes ago! You are absolutely right, reading it did make me feel a bit better, thank you so much for support and encouragement...

No problem. That is why we are here. To support each other in the depths of f&cking despair. Is this your first child?

Yes..trying for our first baby, even got a name for her (it has to be a girl now! with the name we came up with the boy will be bullied at school..or become a hairdresser)...silly, isn't it?

 

[froliky2011]

Kinerie - This is a really good thread.

https://www.babyandbump.com/trying-conceive-over-35/354886-ttc-1st-child-35-a-1155.html

 

[froliky2011]

Kinerie - check this out:

https://www.medhelp.org/posts/Pregnancy-35/High-FSH-Levels/show/100478

This is unbelievable..I was on this site literally 30 minutes ago! You are absolutely right, reading it did make me feel a bit better, thank you so much for support and encouragement...

No problem. That is why we are here. To support each other in the depths of f&cking despair. Is this your first child?

Yes..trying for our first baby, even got a name for her (it has to be a girl now! with the name we came up with the boy will be bullied at school..or become a hairdresser)...silly, isn't it?

Sorta sad that a kid is bullied because of his name. Ugh! People suck sometimes.

 

[Nicker]

Okay.... I have to pipe in here. I always get frustrated with my doc. I love the man, but sometimes I want to strangle him. He always tells me I have no time to waste because I don't have many eggs. I think he is basing that solely on my age. He has never discussed the results of my antral follicle count with me but if I wouldn't have "passed" that, I wouldn't have been able to go ahead with the first cycle. I also did take a picture of the screen when he left the room, so I have the information. I googled it at the time and from what I could tell it looked like I had 38 year old ovaries.
Rt Ovary
volume 5.04 cm3
length 2.75 cm
A-P 1.53 cm
width 2.29 cm

Lt Ovary
volume 6.46 cm3
length 2.56 cm
A-P 2.09 cm
width 2.31 cm

I know on my pre-screening my fsh was 5.9 iu. To me that indicates that my ovarian reserve is okay. He says there is no way to know the quality of eggs without ivf. The one lab result that I got that was slightly on the low side was Dhea-s. Mine was 1.5 and normal is 1.7 - 9.2. If I can supplement Dhea, why didn't he prescribe that? Could that be what is doing me in? Now that I am learning more, wouldn't that mean that the low Dhea could be affecting my egg quality???

I have discovered a few wrinkles in my plan. I am no longer able to take 3 cycles off as that would screw me over with maternity leave if I did get preggers. I have to do more figuring later but at most I may be able to take one more cycle off and maybe not even that. After that I would be out till like January!!! Grrr.... I so don't think I was meant to be a Mom

Congrats to all the people. Tella, I include you in that. I am very happy for you all. Not gonna lie, a little jealous, but happy. If you believe in prayer, please send them up for me because I need all the help I can get.

If anyone has any insight for me please share it!!!

 

[froliky2011]

Kinerie - This is a really good thread.

https://www.babyandbump.com/trying-conceive-over-35/354886-ttc-1st-child-35-a-1155.html

Nicker - Sorry about your challenges. I am going to refer you to the thread above too. The ladies on this thread have a ton of information and they might be able to help. Prayers sent your way~~~~~

 

[bastetgrrl]

So sorry, Nicker. Please don't give up hope. I'll definitely keep you in my prayers.

 

[Hopeful42nd]

I am up to my eyeballs in research right now and am learning more about ratio between fish/lh, e2, ovarian reserve tests, and when to worry about numbers and why, than I ever thought possible. It's a very complex science and opinions are so different from doc to doc, it's baffling. If I find any insights in what I find I will be sure to pass them on as this is really fascinating information and a view into my female reproduction.
Nicker - how would you get screwed on mat leave? Your numbers seem normal and your good response to meds should be a good sign as well.

 

[Nicker]

Yes hopeful but are the eggs all crap?

 

[Nicker]

Just got to my moms. I'll explain the mat leave crap later. They joys of being a teacher.