IVF/FET in Aug'13' - Aug'14' buddies wanted!!*13 BFP's!!**Updates on first page**

[bunyhuny]

Well ladies, I finally got some reasoning behind my doctor's decision not to run progesterone numbers. I messaged a top fertility doctor back in the US and he told me this:

"I agree with your doc. There is no point testing your progesterone because a falling progesterone is most often the result (rather than the cause) of a failing pregnancy. You just need to wait this out, I am afraid."

I wish my doctor could have just said that!! I am still very worried about things, but at least I know there is nothing I can do either way! If the pregnancy does fail I won't have to blame myself for not doing enough.

I still might pop in an extra progesterone now and then if I feel like it... like if I start getting worsening cramps or the bleeding gets heavy. Other than that, I am just going to keep myself on bedrest until Monday and hope that everything turns out okay.

Thanks for all the support ladies. Ya'll are the absolute best!

 

[ababy4us]

Well ladies, I finally got some reasoning behind my doctor's decision not to run progesterone numbers. I messaged a top fertility doctor back in the US and he told me this:

"I agree with your doc. There is no point testing your progesterone because a falling progesterone is most often the result (rather than the cause) of a failing pregnancy. You just need to wait this out, I am afraid."

I wish my doctor could have just said that!! I am still very worried about things, but at least I know there is nothing I can do either way! If the pregnancy does fail I won't have to blame myself for not doing enough.

I still might pop in an extra progesterone now and then if I feel like it... like if I start getting worsening cramps or the bleeding gets heavy. Other than that, I am just going to keep myself on bedrest until Monday and hope that everything turns out okay.

Thanks for all the support ladies. Ya'll are the absolute best!

Keeping you in my prayers.

Are you still bleeding heavily, Buny?

 

[bunyhuny]

Not having heavy spotting anymore and cramps are much lighter. I put myself on bedrest today and after a couple hours the bleeding really calmed down. Now I just have light pink-tinged CM. I also changed from doing two suppositories 3x a day to doing 1 suppository 6x a day, just to keep a more steady dose of progesterone in my system.

I've been looking up studies online and from what I've gathered, especially after hearing back for the US doctor, is that I am probably having withdrawal bleeding because my corpus luteum failed. If it failed just because IVF damaged it, which can definitely happen, then I should recover from the withdrawal bleeding in a few days and my current dose of progesterone should be fine. If the corpus luteum failed because there is something wrong with the actual pregnancy, then no amount of progesterone can fix that. In other words- it really is just a sit and wait thing. (Or lay in bed and wait!) I am really hoping the bleeding goes away soon and that we see our bean snuggled in in exactly the right place on Monday's u/s.

 

[ababy4us]

I hope so too Buny! I'm glad you are on bed rest. I know its been said a billion times but bleeding in pregnancy can be totally normal especially since your numbers are still rising!

 

[flagirlie7]

Hi, ladies, I have been stalking but since we are not actively in the IVF cycle yet I have been posting very little. First of all good luck to all!

I just wanted to share my not so fun experience with saline sono yesterday. I had it done before but nothing awful like yesterday. Due to my strange anatomy (tight cervix with strangely angled uterus) the doc had major issue just to get a catheter in and then after all these cramps I had to endure saline inside. Yikes. He mentioned something about stitching my cervix to which I must have, in e midst of all that madness, missed the first part. My friend suggested they might be dilating it? That all is supposed to happen during my egg retrieval. Anyone had anything similar going on?

On another note, I am scheduling our bw for diseases, and already have consent forms signing appt and injection class booked! Looks like November is THE month.

 

[bunyhuny]

I hope so too Buny! I'm glad you are on bed rest. I know its been said a billion times but bleeding in pregnancy can be totally normal especially since your numbers are still rising!

Thanks, hunny.

 

[Prayerful]

Is your ER still set for the 18th? That is my birthday!!!

Yes, for now it is! Happy early birthday!! When is your transfer scheduled?

*Update* My beta came back at 477.8, so a doubling time of 48.5 hours! Perfect! However the spotting and cramping and clots continue, and my temp is staying low.

Great beta!! What a fighter you have on your hands! Praying the cramping and spotting resolves quickly and you can have peace that everything will be fine.

Beta is 135!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm pregnant!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ahh!!! Congrats! For some reason I nearly teared up when I read this. I could just feel your excitement.

I just wanted to share my not so fun experience with saline sono yesterday. I had it done before but nothing awful like yesterday. Due to my strange anatomy (tight cervix with strangely angled uterus) the doc had major issue just to get a catheter in and then after all these cramps I had to endure saline inside. Yikes. He mentioned something about stitching my cervix to which I must have, in e midst of all that madness, missed the first part. My friend suggested they might be dilating it? That all is supposed to happen during my egg retrieval. Anyone had anything similar going on?

On another note, I am scheduling our bw for diseases, and already have consent forms signing appt and injection class booked! Looks like November is THE month.

Sorry for such a poor experience with your sono. My mock transfer sounded similarly painful. They didn't mention having to do any stitching of my cervix or anything though. I think my issue was that my bladder was too empty and my uterus was therefore not sitting in the proper alignment. Not a fun experience!

Glad you are able to get started soon!!

AFM - At my baseline scan I had 10 follies on the right and 11 on the left. At today's scan, I now have only 3 on the right but still have 9 on the left. Of the 12, there are 4 that are <8mm. So right now it looks like I have 8 contenders. Not bad, but not great either. I'm just super happy that I even have this opportunity! Next scan is Sunday morning, then *hopefully* ER will be on Wednesday!!

One question though... my estradiol was 995 this morning, does that seem low after 6 days of stims?

(By the way, sorry for the double post for those of you that are also on the other thread...!)

 

[Mrs. T]

Rest up bunyhuny! I am praying for you and your baby. Let your husband take care of you.

 

[Mrs. T]

Prayerful, on day 6 mine was 822. From what I understand your estradiol is directly related to the number of mature follicles you have. It should be 150-200 per mature follicle.

I was really worried about my follicles. The number seemed to change with every U/S but there weren't many until near the end of the cycle monitoring all the sudden the number really jumped! Good luck!!!

 

[Disneyfan88]

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One question though... my estradiol was 995 this morning, does that seem low after 6 days of stims?

My estradiol was 466.4 after 5 days of stims. At the time, we were tracking 9 contenders. I triggered on day 10. On the day of the retrieval, I got 7 eggs collected. 6 of them were mature.


Best wishes, buny! I'm glad that your beta went up. I hope that your sticky bean continues to thrive and that the bleeding stops.

 

[4magpies]

Buny you look after yourself.

I'm still in hospital.

They still won't do another beta. I'm 5dp5dt today.

xxx

 

[Disneyfan88]

Buny you look after yourself.

I'm still in hospital.

They still won't do another beta. I'm 5dp5dt today.

xxx

I hope you feel better and get to go home soon.

 

[Izabela]

Not having heavy spotting anymore and cramps are much lighter. I put myself on bedrest today and after a couple hours the bleeding really calmed down. Now I just have light pink-tinged CM. I also changed from doing two suppositories 3x a day to doing 1 suppository 6x a day, just to keep a more steady dose of progesterone in my system.

I've been looking up studies online and from what I've gathered, especially after hearing back for the US doctor, is that I am probably having withdrawal bleeding because my corpus luteum failed. If it failed just because IVF damaged it, which can definitely happen, then I should recover from the withdrawal bleeding in a few days and my current dose of progesterone should be fine. If the corpus luteum failed because there is something wrong with the actual pregnancy, then no amount of progesterone can fix that. In other words- it really is just a sit and wait thing. (Or lay in bed and wait!) I am really hoping the bleeding goes away soon and that we see our bean snuggled in in exactly the right place on Monday's u/s.

Bunny hope soon you feel better. It's such a stressful time for you. Have you had a ultrasound to check the implantation. It may not be your case as only happens in 2 % but is worthy to be caution. On my first IVF I ended with ectopic. The pregnancy test was negative. The clinic din not do Beta. I had heavy bleeding and cloths and white tissue and I still felt pregnant. I called the clinic but they said is the meds wearing off. At about 6 weeks I had pains in my left side. I blamed the meds and I ignored it for another week. I went to GP at 7 weeks and 3 days and I was rushed to emergency and had a full C section as too late for key hole. The blood test showed high Beta at this point same as normal pregnancy but the ultrasound showed ectopic. I lost a good tube.
It may be a good idea to ask for a ultrasound if you did not have one as is much easy to catch it early.
Wish you all the luck.

 

[Izabela]

Buny you look after yourself.

I'm still in hospital.

They still won't do another beta. I'm 5dp5dt today.

xxx

Hope you recover soon. Good luck.

 

[Izabela]

Beta is 135!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm pregnant!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Great news!! Congratulations !!!

 

[sunshine8]

oh Buny - I do hoe it all works out for you ,

Sunshine 8 - how are you holding up my dear ? I have an appointment tomorrow with my doctor to discuss what went wrong and the next step, I am looking forward to my FET but in the meantime I have decided to go away for a girls weekend . I need some time to myself.

rest of the ladies - good luck in your cycles. ! And congrats on the BFP's

Hey Bizzbiii, I am home, resting, all this stress got me bad cold, and to top it all AF came too yesterday. We spoke to the nurse and she told us to stop progesterone. The doctor will call us on 18 sep, to discuss FET plan. At the moment I am so exhausted, that except for the feeling of loss and emptiness , I feel nothing.

I just want to relax, be in peace with myself, and have no high hopes, cause expectation kills

I am glad that you are taking a break, hope you have a great weekend with your girls and get all the positive energy you need to liven up. I will be thinking of you. Please let us know how the meeting with the doc went. Take care and much love.

Mrs.T,, I hope that you get a BFP as perhaps its too early to get the right results. don't stress over the negative, just relax and think happy thoughts.

GL to all ladies stimming, hope you develop many great follies. Congratulation to ladies in their PUPOhood.

Sunshine - Oh hunny My doctor told me today we have 8 (which I knew), and they are all great quality ( which was a good news). She also said " not every embryo will turn out to be a baby, but there is at least one out there that will " and I don't know why but it did make me a bit happier. We are doing unmedicated FET which I am very happy about , we might just use the trigger but nothing before. My AF hasn't arrived yet and if it's not here by Monday I have to go and do BETA. Other than that I must say even the retail therapy did not help. Stay positive please.


4magpies- I am so so so sorry bunny, hope you feel better soon

Bizzbii darling, I am glad that the meeting with your doc went well and that it lifted your spirits. I am also hoping that you don't get your periods until Monday and then the beta test miraculously gives you a positive----praying with all my heart for you.

We will be speaking to the docter on 18th and then know the next plan of action, but I suppose I will too be on a unmediated cycle. On Monday I will check for acupuncture too.


Bunnyhuny, what a hassle, I really hope things turn out the best for you honey. Keeping my FX for you, and hope you get great news on Monday. Take care sweet.

Mrs.T , how are you? any more updates, thinking of you.

TeeninAZ: congratulation girls, felt so happy reading your news this morning. Take care and have a H&H 9 months.

My other friend on the third, hello and here wishing the very best for all of you. Please keep me in your prayers

 

[bunyhuny]

Buny you look after yourself.

I'm still in hospital.

They still won't do another beta. I'm 5dp5dt today.

xxx

Oh, hunny. I so hope that you are feeling better soon and get to go home. Besides the beta, how is everything going? Have they told you when you might expect to leave? And will they do another beta in a couple days? I'm thinking good thoughts for you, lovely lady.

 

[bunyhuny]

*Update*

So now that I've had a little more time to research what the US doctor said, it seems that there are two main possibilities of what could cause the major temp drop and all the cramping/spotting.

The first possibility is the corpus luteum failed because there is something wrong with the pregnancy. If that is the case, no increase in progesterone dose would help to fix that.

The second possibility is that, since IVF damages the follicles during egg retrieval, the corpus luteum could just fail or have problems on its own, I could also have not just one corpus luteum- but two or more, with progesterone production balanced amongst them, and if one goes, the other ones aren't producing enough progesterone (yet). Anyway, if one fails, then the body responds to the major decrease in progesterone by temp drop, cramping, spotting, etc. Normal PMS stuff. However, if this is the case, and if the pregnancy is healthy, then after going through the slight progesterone withdrawal, the body recovers and either the other corpus luteum(s) begin to work harder, or if there is no corpus luteum left, the placenta hormones and the suppositories are processed more effectively.

I am going to go with the second because, as of this morning, my temp has gone back up, the cramps are gone, and the spotting is not just a tiny bit of pink tint to my CM!

Thank you, ladies, for all the love and prayers!!!

 

[Mrs. T]

sunshine8, no just waiting it out until beta on Tuesday.

buny I hope it's the latter scenario. Still thinking about you.

 

[4magpies]

They won't do another beta at all as say it won't be helpful to them. Stupid NHS hospitals. Make me angry!

I don't know when I'll be out. I'm not in pain but the other things aren't improving.

My stomach was 35" yesterday which is very swollen. Today it is 42"!! 7" over night.

OHSS sucks. From what I can read online though its a nearly sure sign I'm pregnant as I was fine before ET and it only started once when implantation should've started.

I'm definitely gonna POAS on wed, might do earlier if OH wont. Not quite sure when I'll be getting out of here.