IVF/FET in Aug'13' - Aug'14' buddies wanted!!*13 BFP's!!**Updates on first page**

[MeganScott]

Chickadee we have the same OTD as well! Not sure I will hold out this time, I'm feeling way more optimistic this time (blasts) than last time (2dt) and DH wants me to test this Sunday! Don't want to test too early and risk disappointment though...
Meganscott Lupron is usually for downregulation (to dampen hormone production, quieten the ovaries prior to setting your body up for FET)
Lucie yay, 7 fertilised is great! Sending you lots of embie growing thoughts
Samsfan 5CC is a grading used for blastocysts (when they get to about 5 days). The higher the number, the more expanded/advanced it is, so a 5 is a hatching blast, and a 6 is already hatched and ready to implant. The first letter is the inner cell mass (that turns into the baby), A or B is good. The second letter is the trophectoderm (that turns into the placenta), A or B is good. But if you're talking about day 2 or 3 embryos, they generally just use one number grading to indicate how even the cell sizes are and how fragmented it is, but each clinic differs in their grading so best to ask your Dr. On day 2, you want to see 4 cells and on day 3, you want to see 8 cells (ideally). I personally wouldn't transfer more than 2 because of risk of multiples, but I guess it depends what your Dr/embryologist recommends depending on the quality

That's very useful info! Thank you so much!! That atleast gives me some idea about how my eggs are! The RE suggested after my first failed IVF that because we didn't have any extras to freeze, perhaps it was poor egg quality that caused the failure.

I have five frozen for now, and although I don't know the complete grading of my frozen blasts, I do know that three were frozen on day 5, they observed the remaining for progress till day 6 and froze two more on day 6. They told me that the quality of all 5 blasts was like A-minus / B-plus and that they were good enough to freeze and survive thaw.

With the transfer for IVF #2, I had two grade A-plus blasts transferred on day five but it didn't take, so I'm beginning to think maybe its not quality of eggs that's a problem, but something else perhaps that they haven't nailed? Nervous now for the FET too!!

 

[Disneyfan88]

Megan - November will be here before you know it. My ER was on August 29, and we're finally doing our FET this Thursday. Keep busy and the time will fly by.

Lucie- You still have a great number of embies!!!! Quality over quantity!

I agree, Lucie. for your embryos to grow nice and strong!

So I have a question what does 5CC mean. I spoke with my embryologist today. My three embies doubled in size they are 4 cell today, but they are grade 3. They are fair. How does that correlate to 5CC and so on. I'm hoping tomorrow they double and now the question is do I transfer 2 or 3? What does everything think?

Embryo grading differs before and after the embryos reach the blastocyst stage. I think the earlier grading differs by lab (as I've seen different things on different sites), but at my lab, they graded on a scale of 1-3 or 1-4 (I'm not sure which as my embryos were luckily always graded 1 or 2), with the lower numbers being better.

5CC would refer to the grading of the embryo as a blastocyst, most likely on day 5. The number tells you where the embryo is in the development/hatching process. I think a 5 indicates that hatching has started, but it hasn't completed yet. The first letter indicates the grading of the inner cell mass, and the second letter indicates the grading of the outer cells (I think these are the cells that become the placenta?).

This site is helpful https://www.advancedfertility.com/blastocystimages.htm
And for the day 3 grading: https://www.advancedfertility.com/embryoquality.htm

I've seen lots of ladies here become pregnant with lower grade embryos and go on to have healthy pregnancies. Don't get discouraged.

 

[Disneyfan88]

Chickadee we have the same OTD as well! Not sure I will hold out this time, I'm feeling way more optimistic this time (blasts) than last time (2dt) and DH wants me to test this Sunday! Don't want to test too early and risk disappointment though...
Meganscott Lupron is usually for downregulation (to dampen hormone production, quieten the ovaries prior to setting your body up for FET)
Lucie yay, 7 fertilised is great! Sending you lots of embie growing thoughts
Samsfan 5CC is a grading used for blastocysts (when they get to about 5 days). The higher the number, the more expanded/advanced it is, so a 5 is a hatching blast, and a 6 is already hatched and ready to implant. The first letter is the inner cell mass (that turns into the baby), A or B is good. The second letter is the trophectoderm (that turns into the placenta), A or B is good. But if you're talking about day 2 or 3 embryos, they generally just use one number grading to indicate how even the cell sizes are and how fragmented it is, but each clinic differs in their grading so best to ask your Dr. On day 2, you want to see 4 cells and on day 3, you want to see 8 cells (ideally). I personally wouldn't transfer more than 2 because of risk of multiples, but I guess it depends what your Dr/embryologist recommends depending on the quality

Looks like we were replying at the same time.

 

[MeganScott]

Thanks Disney!!!

Good luck for Thursday!! When is your OTD?

 

[Disneyfan88]

Chickadee we have the same OTD as well! Not sure I will hold out this time, I'm feeling way more optimistic this time (blasts) than last time (2dt) and DH wants me to test this Sunday! Don't want to test too early and risk disappointment though...
Meganscott Lupron is usually for downregulation (to dampen hormone production, quieten the ovaries prior to setting your body up for FET)
Lucie yay, 7 fertilised is great! Sending you lots of embie growing thoughts
Samsfan 5CC is a grading used for blastocysts (when they get to about 5 days). The higher the number, the more expanded/advanced it is, so a 5 is a hatching blast, and a 6 is already hatched and ready to implant. The first letter is the inner cell mass (that turns into the baby), A or B is good. The second letter is the trophectoderm (that turns into the placenta), A or B is good. But if you're talking about day 2 or 3 embryos, they generally just use one number grading to indicate how even the cell sizes are and how fragmented it is, but each clinic differs in their grading so best to ask your Dr. On day 2, you want to see 4 cells and on day 3, you want to see 8 cells (ideally). I personally wouldn't transfer more than 2 because of risk of multiples, but I guess it depends what your Dr/embryologist recommends depending on the quality

That's very useful info! Thank you so much!! That atleast gives me some idea about how my eggs are! The RE suggested after my first failed IVF that because we didn't have any extras to freeze, perhaps it was poor egg quality that caused the failure.

I have five frozen for now, and although I don't know the complete grading of my frozen blasts, I do know that three were frozen on day 5, they observed the remaining for progress till day 6 and froze two more on day 6. They told me that the quality of all 5 blasts was like A-minus / B-plus and that they were good enough to freeze and survive thaw.

With the transfer for IVF #2, I had two grade A-plus blasts transferred on day five but it didn't take, so I'm beginning to think maybe its not quality of eggs that's a problem, but something else perhaps that they haven't nailed? Nervous now for the FET too!!

I'll share my experience with you. My first IVF cycle, we transferred 2 on day 5 (5AA and 4AA), and we froze 2 on day 6 (6AA and 4BB at the time). We opted to do PGS during the second IVF cycle at the suggestion of my RE. We had 4 (fresh) embryos make it to day 5 (2 more were left to observe on day 6 but didn't make it) -- we had those plus our 2 previously frozen ones biopsied on day 5 of that cycle, and they were all frozen that same day. Of the 6 embryos biopsied, 4 of them came back normal.

In addition to the PGS, I also opted to start acupuncture prior to the start of cycle 2. I've continued the acupuncture (as well as the diet that the acupuncturist put me on) even after my ER. The diet remains in place at least until pregnancy is achieved.

It's hard to say what will happen with our FET or yours, but I'm staying positive. I'm really pulling for you and wish you the best!

 

[Disneyfan88]

Thanks Disney!!!

Good luck for Thursday!! When is your OTD?

Transfer is Thursday at 12:30 pm local time. The test date is scheduled for Friday of the following week (Oct 18).

 

[MeganScott]

Thanks Disney!!!

Good luck for Thursday!! When is your OTD?

Transfer is Thursday at 12:30 pm local time. The test date is scheduled for Friday of the following week (Oct 18).

Oh wow, just 8 days to wait!! Shorter 2ww, and hopefully less stressful!!!

Rooting for you Disney!!

 

[Disneyfan88]

Thanks Disney!!!

Good luck for Thursday!! When is your OTD?

Transfer is Thursday at 12:30 pm local time. The test date is scheduled for Friday of the following week (Oct 18).

Oh wow, just 8 days to wait!! Shorter 2ww, and hopefully less stressful!!!

Rooting for you Disney!!

Thanks! I think we get a credit for the 5 days before they were frozen.

 

[Hanawanabump]

Hiya ladies!

Had ET yday at 2pm, had a bit of a nightmare, took over 1 1/2 hours due to dodgy cervix! Typical! But I had been feeling really anxious thinking there would be none to transfer, but out of my 4, I had 1 lovely blastocyst, and the other 3 will be checked today for freezing.

My OTD is next sat 19th!

Lying on sofa with the puppy looking after me! Tips I've been reading about - pineapple, brazil nuts, warm foods & drinks worth a try!!

Good luck everyone - thinking of you all!!! Xxx

 

[Chickadeedee]

Good luck Hana!
So testing - OTD for Goldfish & I is the 17th; Disney is the 18th, Hana is the 19th and Samsfan is the 21st!!! How exciting

 

[Samsfan]

Megan and Disney thanks for sharing your experiences. Sounds like you both had great embryos.

Chickadee my testing is not until OCT 21st!!!!!!

So the question today is do I transfer two or three with my Grade 3 embryos!!!

 

[adroplet]

For you ladies who are officially prego now - after ET or FET, did you take time off work? bed rest? and for how long?

I'm debating taking time off work after FET since my job is basically light duty as it is.

 

[Hanawanabump]

For you ladies who are officially prego now - after ET or FET, did you take time off work? bed rest? and for how long?

I'm debating taking time off work after FET since my job is basically light duty as it is.

Hiya,

I had my et yday and I'm off work till mon, so taken 3 days off, I read that it takes 5 days for implantation so I've got today till Sunday to relax, not so much bed rest but being at home, putting feet up when I fancy, and nothing stressful to deal with. I would say I am quite crampy/periody today so maybe just take one day if not longer. Hope all goes well for you xxx

 

[Becki09]

Hiya Hana,

I had my ET on Monday, and they transferred one expanding Blastocyst
I unfortunately didn't have any to freeze, they said they would check them the following day and if they made it to blast they'd freeze but it looked unlikely.

Wishing everyone the best of Luck xx

 

[Hanawanabump]

Hiya Hana,

I had my ET on Monday, and they transferred one expanding Blastocyst
I unfortunately didn't have any to freeze, they said they would check them the following day and if they made it to blast they'd freeze but it looked unlikely.

Wishing everyone the best of Luck xx

What's an expanding blastocyst? Crazy were pupo isn't it! Did u get piccys? I thought it was lovely to bring pics etc home! Made it more real! Xxx

 

[Becki09]

Apparently it's the stage before it hatches. Nope we didnt get pics at our clinic We did see it zoomed in on the tv screen though before it was transferred and that made it seem more real xxx

 

[Chickadeedee]

I am super bloated too - and my belly hurts to push on it - I'm thinking it's the Crinone progesterone side effect. Oh well, sooo worth it!

 

[Prayerful]

Congrats Goldfish, Hana, Chickadee, Becki, and soon to be Sam and Disney on being PUPO!! The end of next week will be an exciting couple of days. I can't wait to hear about all of your BFPs!!

Megan - I'm glad you are able to get restarted again right away.

Lucie - Congrats on 7 fertilized embies! That is a great number!

Sam - Good luck today! I've been praying for you.

Adroplet - I did my transfer on a Saturday and took off work on Monday, so I had 3 days of rest before going back to work. I didn't put myself on bedrest but did take it very easy.

 

[Prayerful]

Woohoo! Congrats Chickadee! Those look great!

 

[Disneyfan88]

Hiya ladies!

Had ET yday at 2pm, had a bit of a nightmare, took over 1 1/2 hours due to dodgy cervix! Typical! But I had been feeling really anxious thinking there would be none to transfer, but out of my 4, I had 1 lovely blastocyst, and the other 3 will be checked today for freezing.

My OTD is next sat 19th!

Lying on sofa with the puppy looking after me! Tips I've been reading about - pineapple, brazil nuts, warm foods & drinks worth a try!!

Good luck everyone - thinking of you all!!! Xxx

Congrats on being PUPO!!! I'm sorry that your transfer didn't go too smoothly, but that's great that you were able to transfer a nice blast! I hope that you get great news about the remaining embies, and good luck with your little bean!!

Megan and Disney thanks for sharing your experiences. Sounds like you both had great embryos.

Chickadee my testing is not until OCT 21st!!!!!!

So the question today is do I transfer two or three with my Grade 3 embryos!!!

Hi Samsfan, the way that I've always looked at answering that question was to consider how I'd feel if all of the embryos that we put back implanted. That said, I do know that many ladies on BnB have put back 3 if the grade of the embryos were lower and their doctors didn't think they would make it to freezing. Sorry, I don't think that was a very helpful answer. Either way, whichever number you decide to go with, it will be the right decision for you.

For you ladies who are officially prego now - after ET or FET, did you take time off work? bed rest? and for how long?

I'm debating taking time off work after FET since my job is basically light duty as it is.

I'm off all of this week. My transfer is tomorrow (!!), and I don't go back to work until Tuesday.

Every doctor is different, but my doctor puts her patients on 2 days of bed rest following the transfer with the recommendation to continue taking it easy for a few more days after that.

I am super bloated too - and my belly hurts to push on it - I'm thinking it's the Crinone progesterone side effect. Oh well, sooo worth it!

I gotta say, I'm on Crinone (again), and I'm not a fan. It's not too horrible, but it's not fantastic, either. I'm on a dose of 2x per day through the end of the first trimester. I think I'd rather have the Crinone over PIO shots, though... I hope that your side effects subside. Oh, and great picture!!