July testers - Over 35

[Wendyk07]

Thanks girls. If i have to put off ttc for a couple of months then as soon as i am back on the bus i am going at it big guns.

 

[Jennjenn]

I like that mentality

 

[Junebug_CJ]

I don't see why you'd have to put it off for a few months Wendy! Will look into this for you to make sure.

 

[Junebug_CJ]

I like that mentality

LOL this is how I am feeling today

LL, awaiting your update!

DMom, any sign of your unwanted visitor??

 

[Jennjenn]

First day of red blood is CD1, not when you're only spotting. So yes, I'd count the first day of real bleeding as your CD1 after the methotrexate (or before, if AF starts before Thursday!).

Yes - Junebug is correct and FF has spotting as one of their selections for cervical fluids b/c you can spot mid-cycle and it's not really the start of your cycle.

 

[Wendyk07]

I don't see why you'd have to put it off for a few months Wendy! Will look into this for you to make sure.

Thanks Junebug.

They said that i have to wait until after the bleed(up to 6 weeks) and then wait a further cycle so around the 3 months mark. I dont get it either. Surely i should be fine after the bleeding stops(i so hope i am like you with this as i can cope with 4-5 days) and maybe even a precautionary cycle as i would imagine any left over met would be a danger to the fetus.

 

[LLbean]

got back from the FS and she says IVF all the way because of my age, that way they can make sure the embryo is 100% healthy before transferring it . She thinks I could have MC because of genetic stuff (due to age) too...hope Hubby agrees to the costs ...UGH!

Junebug, I believe you said your area of expertise is Genetic stuf... when they do Genetic embryo biopsy and what not, what all does it test? and does that mean the baby can not develop it during the pregnancy later on? Can autism be detected too?

My husband is now grilling me with questions cause of the price tag he is seeing. Do I still need to see an Advanced Maternal Age specialist even after genetic testing? Someone told me yes cause of my age and the placenta life time etc... he wants all the answers now LOL

 

[Mon_n_john]

Wow LL, that all sounds exciting! The beautiful thing about IVF is that you are guaranteed an embryo and don't have to wait months to get pregnant. I wish I knew more about it to give you some info. I'm sure others here will chime in soon.

 

[LLbean]

well I have a friend who did 5 IUI cycles with no success and one IVF did it...so I hope that is us too!

 

[Mon_n_john]

I promised you guys I would find the fertility statue pic that has supposedly helped many infertile couples get pregnant. I'm attaching the image below. Rub it's reproductive organs while rubbing yours according to the legend. Over your clothes is fine by the way LOL!

https://newsliteimgs.s3.amazonaws.com/100701_fert1.jpg

And here is the website that talks all about the statues:
https://www.ripleys.com/fertility-statues/

Good luck and baby dust to all!

 

[Junebug_CJ]

got back from the FS and she says IVF all the way because of my age, that way they can make sure the embryo is 100% healthy before transferring it . She thinks I could have MC because of genetic stuff (due to age) too...hope Hubby agrees to the costs ...UGH!

Junebug, I believe you said your area of expertise is Genetic stuf... when they do Genetic embryo biopsy and what not, what all does it test? and does that mean the baby can not develop it during the pregnancy later on? Can autism be detected too?

My husband is now grilling me with questions cause of the price tag he is seeing. Do I still need to see an Advanced Maternal Age specialist even after genetic testing? Someone told me yes cause of my age and the placenta life time etc... he wants all the answers now LOL

Well I think that saying "IVF all the way" is a bit extreme. There is never 100% guarantee that the baby would be healthy, through a process called pre-implantation genetic diagnosis (PGD) (that is separate from IVF and doubles the price) they can look at 1 cell to make sure the baby has no chromosomal abnormalities, but there are some false negatives (meaning embryo looks fine but turns out to have Down syndrome anyways) or false positives (where a normal embryo is discarded because of a falsely positive chromosomal screen). These tests do NOT test for the more common causes of mental deficiencies, autism, isolated congenital abnormalities (baby could go on to develop a severe congenital heart defect for example) or any of the thousands of autosomal recessive diseases.

At 41, your risk of Down syndrome is 1/82, and your total risk of all chromosomal defects is 1/51. If you flip those numbers around, you have a 50/51 chance of having a baby with normal chromosomes. So the odds are still great that you'll have a healthy baby! The only way to detect this during a pregnancy is through CVS or amniocentesis, and the risk of false negatives/positives is MUCH lower than with PGD (and MUCH cheaper).

I'm very concerned that the info you were given was very much profit-driven. We KNOW you can achieve a pregnancy without it. My recommendation would be if you do decide to go through with IVF, do NOT do the genetic testing prior to transfer to the uterus, instead do the CVS at 11-12 weeks of pregnancy since those results are MUCH more reliable. Yes, there is a risk of miscarriage, but the rate was once thought to be 1/100 although we now know that it's more like 1/400 or less, depending on your centre (I had it done here and the quoted risk is 1/1000, I didn't even have spotting).

I know I didn't address everything possible, but based on what you wrote, these are my concerns. You could always request a consult with Genetics before you decide to go ahead with anything with the FS just to see the numbers they quote you I'm here for you!!!

 

[Junebug_CJ]

I don't see why you'd have to put it off for a few months Wendy! Will look into this for you to make sure.

Thanks Junebug.

They said that i have to wait until after the bleed(up to 6 weeks) and then wait a further cycle so around the 3 months mark. I dont get it either. Surely i should be fine after the bleeding stops(i so hope i am like you with this as i can cope with 4-5 days) and maybe even a precautionary cycle as i would imagine any left over met would be a danger to the fetus.

OK Wendy based on what I read:
-definitely skip the immediately following the MTX injections
-to err on the side of caution, skip the following cycle too, just to let your body clear the remaining MTX

Fingers crossed you only have a short bleed (I was 8 weeks when I got my MTX and only bled 5 days).

 

[Junebug_CJ]

Wow LL, that all sounds exciting! The beautiful thing about IVF is that you are guaranteed an embryo and don't have to wait months to get pregnant. I wish I knew more about it to give you some info. I'm sure others here will chime in soon.

Yes, embryos are guaranteed, but transferring embryos to the uterus does not necessarily lead to pregnancies right away. Some people may need several cycles. I know 2 for whom it worked right away, but others who had 5 cycles and never got pregnant through IVF

 

[Mon_n_john]

That's true Chantal. At least at my RE's if the IVF is not succesful you get your money back. I probably wouldn't do it unless I couldn't get pregnant naturally but then again, if I were over 40 I might consider it. It's a tough one.

 

[dachsundmom]

Mon dieu! IVF off the bat? The clinic I want to use is $30k; hope yours is better, lol.

 

[LLbean]

mine is 13K

 

[dachsundmom]

Fresh or frozen eggs? Lol. Hell, I'm coming to GA!

 

[Mon_n_john]

I don't think that's horrible but my RE does packages that start at $4,000.

 

[dachsundmom]

WTH, lol. I must have picked the Saks of fertility clinics.

 

[LLbean]

those would be MY eggs