Late ovulation after miscarriage

[Chickybaby]

A weekend alone sounds like pure Bliss right now! Haha may be a few years till I get one of those! Might have to enlist the grandparents over the next few months to get the odd night off.

Hope your DS is recovered bow and you didn't end up with a cold! Yes being sick while pregnant is so unfair!

Midwife this morning was fine. She found the heartbeats easily thank goodness. A huge relief to hear them both and get that reassurance. Back in 4 weeks and will book in our anatomy scan after that. Still waiting to heat from obstetrics at the hospital but that may not happen for a while, think its the second half of your pregnancy they really want to keep an eye on. Will be strange going from these months with hardly any contact to heaps of extra ultrasounds and appointments. Its all a bit unknown at the moment but I'm feeling positive about it all for now.

It is so much more reassuring when you can feel the baby moving each day, as long as they keep doing it haha. I remember prodding DS to get him to wriggle haha.

I bet you are looking forward to some nice weather after the winter you have had. I can't wait till it cools down! It doesn't snow or get that cold here though.

Oh I don't think I've gained much yet. I lost a bit while I was being sick and not eating much, its starting to come on now again though. I feel huge by the end of the day. My uterus is already just below my belly button, its a bit scary hahah

 

[Chickybaby]

Hi there, not sure if you still check in here.

We just had our anatomy scan, anatomy all good but one baby measuring small and blood flow not ideal. I had been told some of this at a scan last week and I'm so scared. They won't do much at the moment as I'm so early I feel very confused. I can feel a lot of movement from baby b but not much from little baby a. At this stage I don't know if I will be bringing home two babies, one baby or no babies

 

[faye1019]

Chicky-- Haven't been on in weeks but have been thinking about you. Life has been very hectic, but I can update you on that some other time. Ugh, I am sorry to hear this update. Did they have any sense of what might be causing this? What are the next steps? PLEASE keep posted and I will be checking in on you regularly. Praying that all is fine for you and those little babes. xoxo

 

[Chickybaby]

I don't know much. I've only heard bits from the ultrasound person and haven't heard from my midwife at all. She did show me the blood flow on a chart and for baby a it has been consistently abnormal. The blood flow through the brain show that baby is currently coping but I can't help bit feel uneasy about it. She said they're not too worried yet but I'm not sure if that's because it's so early or what. I'm angry I'm not being told much. I feel helpless. As far as what's causing it. Who knows? I think its most likely because they're twins, maybe The placenta didn't implant as well as it should of? If it was anemia or diabetes I think they'd both be struggling. But I don't know. I'm just reading and spiraling down into a dark hole of fear. Will ring the midwife after easter and ask to talk to them, repeat scan to check growth on Friday. I just feel so shocked. My son was 8lbs 8. I never expected to have trouble growing them and I feel like such a failure.

In other news we found out that baby a is a girl and baby b is a boy. Our families all no that we are expecting twins now and are so excited. I haven't shared that we are having issues. Its just a waiting game now and it sucks. I keep trying to have hope and remain positive but things just don't feel right.

Thanks for checking in. That was probably very rambly but it feels hood to get it out. My husband is just so excited and positive and I just feel broken.

Will update once I talk to someone in a few days. XXX

I hope you're getting on OK, do tell me what you've been up to too.

 

[faye1019]

Thanks for your update. And so exciting that you'll be having a boy and a girl! That seems like a great dynamic-- less competition, etc. Its definitely encouraging that baby A is currently "coping" and that she said they're not worried yet. I feel like if they were her reaction would have been quite different/they would have sent you straight to the hospital. Either way it is very disconcerting and I am so sorry. I hope you've been able to get some additional answers and get good news. But I have a good feeling for you. And honestly, in just a few weeks those babies will be at a stage where if worst case they needed you to deliver, they'd have an excellent chance. A colleague of mine just had twin girls at 25 weeks and they are doing great. Obviously NOT the best case scenario but just a thought. I really do feel in my heart that you'll be bringing two babies home. And I wouldn't just say that if I didn't mean it.

I had my anatomy scan yesterday. All looked fine and the ultrasound tech helped us capture a bunch of 3D images of babies face. I really think it's a girl, but we won't know until delivery. I feel so big-- bump is WAY bigger than it was at this stage with DS. OB said that's normally and it should slow down around 28 weeks. I am already up like 15 pounds which is a bit scary, but really nothing I can do about it.

I'm not sure if I've mentioned to you that since I had DS, we moved about 20 miles from my OB/the hospital she delivers at. I considered switching doctors but after my miscarriage and how supportive they were with the beginning of this pregnancy being a bit scary, I just didn't want to. DS came very quickly and there's concern that I wouldn't make it to the hospital this time. We started discussing this with her at yesterday's appointment and she said that inducing at 39 weeks might be a good option for me. There's also a "Plan B" of going to a closer hospital, but the hospital she delivers at is the best in the area and has the highest rated NICU. I am SO nervous about having this baby on the highway stuck in traffic. Oh well, just have to see how it all unfolds.

PLEASE keep me posted! xoxo

 

[Chickybaby]

Thank you so much! Its actually really nice to hear you have a good feeling about things. I do too for the most part just a nagging in the back of my brain full of "what ifs,".

I spoke to the midwives and they're not concerned at all. I told them I felt like I wasn't going to end up with two babies at the end of this and she very confidently said that I would. I know they can't predict the future but her confidence made me feel better.

We had a follow up scan today and things are holding steady. Blood flow to baby girl remains abnormal but the Doppler of her brain is fine and as long as it stays that way we are OK. I also feel better about her size after getting some more info. She is smaller at 3 days behind out gestation but the reason the difference between them is so large (1week) is because he is 4 days ahead. So 3 days behind doesn't sound so bad. And the fact that the gap between them hasn't gotten any bigger yet makes me think they're currently growing at the same rate.

Its going to be a long few months but we're taking it one day at a time. I can feel them both from the outside now so I'm focusing on that and trying to trust the process. We have an ob appointment next week at the hospital so it will be good to get their opinion and see what the plan is from here on out and whether they want me referred to maternal fetal medicine or not. It feels bizarre, things were so straight forward with my son and this just feels surreal. I'm doing better than I was last week though.

Current plan is to wait and watch, midwife is happy for me to drop in any time to listen to them if I'm worried which is nice. Also just trying to up my protein and fluids and lie on my left aide as much as possible with plenty of rest throughout the day (easy with a 2 year old haha).

So glad your anatomy scan went well, will that be your last peak at baby this pregnancy? Seeing them 3d must be amazing, we don't do that here and it looks so cool. Exciting to guess the gender will be interesting to see if you are right!

The bump definitely pops quickly second time around! I'm sure it feels bigger too running around after a toddler. I'm already having trouble bending or getting up off the floor but obviously that's to be expected with two in there!

I do remember you mentioning being unsure whether you should continue Care with your doc, sound like you have a good relationship with her and trust her so I can totally see why you have chosen to remain under her care. I think seeing what happens will be beat, try not to stress too much about it! Things may be totally different this time. Fingers crossed!

I'm going out with my sister, niece and mum next week to see "Cats" so that should be fun, then I think my parents are going to look after our boy for a night so me and hubby can have some time and do something fun. Its been a tough few weeks so looking forward to having some run activities planned to pass the time.

I hope everything else is going well for you. Does your little boy seem to understand there is a new baby coming? Is he excited?

I will keep in touch with how our appointment goes next week. Xxx

 

[faye1019]

Glad to hear that things are sounding positive-- from midwife and scans! Are you being told to take it really easy? When is your OB appointment next week? Also, SO reassuring that you can pop into listen anytime you're feeling nervous. So nice of her to offer that.

Unless there are complications, the anatomy scan is the last major ultrasound. They do one at the end to check that baby is head down, but it's bedside and you really can't see much.

We actually haven't officially spoken to DS about this baby. He can tend to be a bit obsessive and I don't want to tell him too early and then have him thinking about it/asking constantly. He also will have another big life change before (hopefully!) this baby comes. We have been renovating a house since last summer and it should be done before baby comes. We're hoping to move this summer, so I feel like he has to tackle that transition first. What about your son?

Keep me posted!

 

[Chickybaby]

The midwife actually rang me after that scan which freaked me out haha. They don't normally do that unless there is an issue. Turns out growth has jumped up for them both, baby girl was sitting really low on about 5% but is up to 26% and baby boy has jumped way up to 92%. So the fact they're both growing still is positive she said. But the abnormal Doppler is a concern. She said the doctors will discuss this with me in more detail, I'm not sire what to think. Its stressful but in other ways I just feel like it is what it is and all I can do is advocate for myself, ask questions and then trust in the process and hope for the best. I have good days and bad days.

Appointment is on Wednesday (Monday here now) first thing, looking forward to getting there opinion and making a plan. I have a science background and on all about plans and numbers and details.

We then go back to the midwife a week later and most likely another scan, I'm not sure what the plan will be. If things were normal I would get scanned monthly but wouldn't be surprised if its fortnightly now.

It's the same here, usually the anatomy scan is the last unless they have any worries. I had one extra after with my son to check growth because I was measuring big. All fine though. I thought extra scan would be fun but this time around they're not. They just make me more aware that something could go wrong at any minute.

These babies have been stressing me out The last few days barely moving. Thankfully had some decent movements from them both over the last 24 hours. I think I keep expecting huge movements because I'm so big. I keep forgetting I'm only 21 weeks.

Our boy is aware that there are two babies on mummy's tummy. A boy and a girl and he knows which side each one is on and will kiss my belly but I don't think he understands what that means really haha. I think he's in for a shock.! I spend a lot of time with him and am quite soft with lots of cuddles in the middle of the night and things. Not sure how he will handle having my attention split, he's just started getting jealous over the past few weeks. He will adjust though im sure and love having two little buddies.

How exciting about the upcoming move! That will be so nice to get in and settles in your own apace before baby arrives.

Will keep in touch

 

[faye1019]

Thinking about you today (it's Wednesday here). Hope your appointment went well and you got some additional information/guidance. Please update me when you can.

 

[Chickybaby]

Appointment yesterday. It wasn't great. They're pretty concerned and have told us that we may lose the small twin. I already knew this but its the first time it's actually been said to us. They're particularly concerned because it has happened so early on in the pregnancy. Being referred to MFM and hopefully will see the over the next week. We will have to travel a few hours away for this appointment and it will include an in depth ultrasound and they should be able to give us more information and come up with a plan. At the moment the plan is weekly scans to check fluid and blood flow and growth scans every two weeks.

We met with the midwife after and she told us what would happen with a few different scenarios and has told me to pack a bag in case we end up in an emergency situation at the hospital and I have to be air lifted to another city with better care (our hospital doesn't have a NICU just a SCBU). It was all very overwhelming but I'm glad I now know what happens if I go into labour early and they need to be given special care.

I've been told to monitor movement closely (which is difficult at 21 week, still having quieter days) and call or go in if im concerned at all. Also have been told to not over exert myself and try to relax as much as possible.

I'm terrified. I don't feel strong enough to go through any of this. The waiting is painful and the weeks are dragging along slowly. The unknown scares me, going through all of this for a good outcome is fine. I can do that. It's the waiting for something terrible to happen that scares me. I don't even know how to get through the next few months let alone the possible time in hospital and away from my boy. I'm trying not to get too ahead of myself and just concentrate on each day but phew its tough.

So we are back to waiting with very few answers. Ultrasound on Tuesday, i've always loved getting scans done buy I hate them now. I just lie there holding my breath waiting for bad news. Hope we see MFM quickly so we have a better idea of what to expect. Next milestone is 24 weeks. Once they're viable everyone will care a bit more.

Good news is they have strong heart rates currently and I can feel them moving a fair bit throughout the day. Its also great we ate getting seen by the experts and monitored closely. I feel confident that if they can be saved they will be. We are doing all that we can xxx

 

[faye1019]

Wow. I imagine it was so difficult hearing them say that. I pray that is not the case and that you bring home two beautiful babies in a few months. And ugh the added stress of having to travel for the MFM appointment. How far away is the closest hospital with a NICU? Are there few hospitals in NZ with them?

I am so sorry that you are going through this. I hope you get some good news on Tuesday, or at the least, some more information about next steps. It does sound like you are receiving excellent care and guidance and your team is doing all that they can.

Thinking about you and sending all the full-term baby vibes across the globe.

 

[Chickybaby]

Thanks for the good vibes! Having a rough day today, I'm terrified when I don't feel her moving much. Its exhausting already and has only been a few weeks. The next few months will be tiring. I just hope we make it through the other side one way or another.

The hospital I would go to is about an hour and a half drive away. So not that far (everything is close here). So I imagine the helicopter trip would be pretty quick. We will find out more about that when we see MFM I guess. Our major cities all have decent NICUs but the city I live in is pretty small and the SCBU can only handle babies as early as 32 weeks, give or take depending on how they're doing. Since we're having twins and she is smaller it's unlikely we would stay here even at that gestation.

No word on our MFM appointment yet. Hoping it will be next week though to get a better idea of the plan. Hopeful the news on Tuesday will be good. Hopefully she is continuing to grow and things haven't gotten worse so far. I can't believe its only been 4 weeks since we found out there was a potential problem.

Its hard to just trust the doctors and midwives with the lives of your children but that's all we can do at the moment. I have left a message with the midwives letting them know we haven't heard from MFM so hopefully will hear on Monday what the plan is. Busy week next week, I'm meant to be resting but fins keeping busy is so much better for my mental health. I'm not over exerting myself at all but can't just lie around feeling sorry for myself. Blah the unknown is the worst bit, it could still all be fine or pur whole world could come crashing down at any minute. Xx

 

[faye1019]

Hope you are hanging in. I'm sorry for going MIA again. We ended up very suddenly having to put our beloved English bulldog down last Monday. He had been acting a bit strangely for the past week or so, but we'd chalked it up to him just getting older. Then on Monday he started vomiting repeatedly and his breathing was very labored. He passed out and fell off of our bed and I rushed him to the vet. They suspected pneumonia and we transferred him to the animal hospital for oxygen therapy. By the afternoon his condition was worsening and they discovered a giant mass in his chest. We made the difficult decision to put him down as he was suffering mightily and was in danger of heart failure/cardiac arrest. He was our first-born, almost 10 and a huge part of our family. We are heartbroken and I just finally feel like I'm coming up for air today.

How are you doing? Have had your appointment with MFM? Praying for all good news from you.

 

[Chickybaby]

I am so sorry for your loss. The loss of a pet is so heartbreaking they are 100 percent a part of the family and losing them hurts so bad. Xx

Don't worry about it when you can't check in at all, especially when you have so much going on. I appreciate the comments when you can

I'm doing OK. Have had another ultrasound which showed no change which is great (things don't appear to be getting worse). Our little girl was supper active during it too which is an excellent sign that she is currently doing well. This could change but at the moment things are progressing as well as they can.

Movement has been excellent t other than the past few days they've felt quieter but I have been busy with my DS's birthday and things so just putting it down to that.

I have also had the most horrific experience with a toothache. I was trying to do the right thing and go to the dentist to get a tooth looked at which had some mild discomfort in it when I bit down in it. After he did some work on it, it became so incredibly painful I've bow been back twice and gone to the doctors and it seems to be coming right. What a nightmare, just hoping it doesn't flare up again after I finish the antibiotics I got... Sometimes it feels like it is one thing after another!

Have our MFM appointment tomorrow so heading out of town tonight just hubby and I. Nervous but also feel ready to get some insight into where we go from here. Sounds pretty straightforward just meet with the specialist, in depth scan and then review the results and make a plan... Everyone has different opinions on how bigger deal it is so will be great to talk to the specialist experts.

We have a follow up at our local hospital next week and back to the midwives the week after. Bright side is that the weekly scans and appointments are making time go rather quickly.

Have been having loads of braxton Hicks contractions so will ask them to look at me cervix at the scan and check its not shortening at all. I can't believe I'm only just over 23 weeks. These last few weeks have made this feel like the longest pregnancy in history.

Hope things are as good as can be expected with you. How is your house coming along? Any proposed date for moving in? Keep on touch when you can and I will update you after our appointment tomorrow. Take care of yourself xx

 

[faye1019]

Just checking in to hear how your appointment was. And oh my goodness, so sorry to hear about the toothache. Just what you need... not! Hopefully that's all resolved now.

I'm hanging in. We are having a lot of drama with our house right now. We have an insane neighbor who has been an issue since we started drawing up plans for the house in the fall. She is basically harassing us because some of her trees were damaged by our construction. But they are hanging over her fence onto our property so it's a bit ridiculous. She calls the city constantly to complain and managed to get our work site shut down. She's also started calling the police on us. It's stressful and horrible. We were looking forward to having a nice relationship with our new neighbors and she is just awful. Plus we're under a time crunch because of my pregnancy and when we're shut down the guys can't work. Ugh.

 

[Chickybaby]

Hey our appointment was actually pretty good. A very in depth scan checking that the anatomy is all normal (all appears fine) and growth and blood flow. It's a scary place to go when you're lead into a room with couches and several boxes of tissues, what a shitty job telling people bad news about their babies all day.

Anyway the scan showed that the blood flow through the cord of twin A is indeed abnormal (high resistance) but the blood flow through the brain and liver is currently fine. We also found out for aire that of the two umbilical arteries only one of them is abnormal and the other is fine. It is also only just abnormal.

Growth continues to be an issue but isn't as bad as they thought. There is a 24% discrepancy between them and they don't like to see it above 20%. Baby girl also had less fluid around her but still normal which is apparently what they would expect.

The doctor told us things could be Much worse and that with how it is looking at the moment she would be extremely surprised to see us deliver before 30 weeks, but we will have a cut off of 36 weeks instead of 37. She said its definite ply still a high risk pregnancy but didn't seem to think it was crazy bad.

The plan going forward Is a scan for fluid and blood flow each week and growth biweekly. I will also being getting an ob to follow my care more closely, we then go back to MFM in 6 weeks (sooner if need be) and the plan may change then. Hopefully if we end up delivering early we will have time to get steroid shots done and possibly a magnesium drip. They will also most likely come appoinsection.

Hopefully nothing deteriorates over the next 6 weeks at least and we can get back to MFM at almost 30 weeks, I will feel much more comfortable after that point I think.

So overall it was a positive appointment for us. Its still scary and no one can guarantee things won't go down hill faster than expected but at the moment things aren't looking worse case scenario. I still don't feel like I'm definitely getting two babies out of this and I'm scared of what the next few months are going to be like but I'm hanging in there and taking it day by day.

Argh the house drama sounds frustrating! Neighbours can be such a pain, I think.some people just like having something to complain about. I hope you can get things moving along again soon and can get in and sorted before baby arrives. It will all work out one way or another though! Even sometimes when things don't go exactly to plan or exactly how you would have liked them to. Usually you look back after and barely remember how stressful they seemed. Xxx

 

[faye1019]

Sounds like things are beginning to spin a bit more positive with your pregnancy. Hopefully all has been fine since you last posted. Continuing to think about you often and send lots of healthy vibes your way. xo

 

[Chickybaby]

Thanks, I'm pretty exhausted from the constant appointments and monitoring. Everything is ticking along still so hopefully it continues to stay the same and we can make it to 36+ weeks. As we get further along (25+5 today) I'm getting more hopeful and much more scared. Feels like there is so much to lose, every scan we go to I'm just waiting for bad news, I have a history of pretty severe anxiety and depression and can feel it creeping in here and there. Just taking it one day at a time and hoping for the best while preparing for the worst.

How are you? So close to third tri already. Hope baby has been treating you well and everything is good! Xxx

 

[Chickybaby]

Oh and I keep getting told "wow you can really feel the size difference" every time I get my belly touched now so that's fun... I know its not my fault but it makes me feel so shitty. I feel so much guilt about the fact that she is so much smaller than him. It's tough!

 

[Chickybaby]

Blah I'm so tired of this rollercoaster. Had a great scan and was told they're growing perfectly and doing really well especially considering how early these issues were picked up (she is still tiny bit growing as she should). Blood flow looked good and all was seemingly going fantastically. I really let hope creep in then that we were going to make it as far as possible and have healthy babies! She would be small but perfect.

The next day I get a delightful phone call saying that that is in fact not the case and her growth has slowed again and she has dropped down the growth chart (customised) and I need to go straight to the hospital for monitoring and to talk to the doctors to make a plan. Cue the panic. It all changed so quickly. Anyway went up to the hospital to meet a midwife where she tells me what has happened and Tells me I would have a ctg done to make sure the babies are.fine buy won't in fact be talking to a doctor as I have an appointment on Monday (this was Friday). I told her I don't actually have an appointment till thursday. So the ctg was fine. Heartrates looked great and were doing what they should so I was sent on my way. I told her Thursday felt very far away now and she laughed and said "does it?" Ugh I feel like no one gets how stressful this all is for me. I got no true answers as to if this is a major issue or if it changes anything and am now just waiting. Again. I guess the fact they're not panicking is good but oh my gosh I'm so sick of it. We've only known about the issue for 8 weeks and it feels like its been so much longer!