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[Hopeful H]

Had my 6 week scan this morning ladies and got a heartbeat!! Everything is looking and measuring fine and we got a picture so feeling better now. There is a bit of blood up there apparently but not enough to cause them to worry. Phew!!

 

[TonyaG]

Great news Hopeful!

 

[Sass827]

Such good news Hopeful! Gives me hope for my check up too.
Just wanted to say a word about the blood / hematoma issues - my cousin is on her fourth baby. She had bad hematomas with the last two. They are both fine. Baby three is now 2 years old and baby four is due in late January.
I just think that there is so much going on down there that we should all expect some blood at one point or another. It has to snuggle in so much, then your uterus has to thicken so much, then your body has to produce 20% more blood volume.... I mean it's just all so much blood. I'm sure it has to be terrifying, but just try to tell yourself that it's all part of the process. Chin up and remember to breathe! Have a great day ladies!

 

[Babee_Bugs]

Awww hopeful that's great news Hunnie

Has your due date changed at all? Or do you want me to leave it as it is? X

 

[Hann12]

That's great news hopeful! I really hope I get to see the heartbeat at 6 weeks too!

 

[BabyMay]

Yay for seeing a heartbeat! I have my apt on Thursday. I hope I am as lucky as you are. Congrats!

 

[Courtney917]

Glad to hear that Hopeful!!! I just got my HCG levels and they are over 10,000. However, my progesterone was only at 15.9, doc says its okay but i feel that its too low especially bc i am on suppositories. On top of that they dropped from 18.45 a weeks ago. I have a scan and appt this afternoon I am going to request an increase in the dose bc I am not happy with that number. What do you all think? After 4 losses I am positive that it was the damn progesterone that caused each and every one and I don;t want to chance yet another loss

 

[jtink28]

Had my 6 week scan this morning ladies and got a heartbeat!! Everything is looking and measuring fine and we got a picture so feeling better now. There is a bit of blood up there apparently but not enough to cause them to worry. Phew!!

yay for a heartbeat! great news!!!

 

[Hann12]

Glad to hear that Hopeful!!! I just got my HCG levels and they are over 10,000. However, my progesterone was only at 15.9, doc says its okay but i feel that its too low especially bc i am on suppositories. On top of that they dropped from 18.45 a weeks ago. I have a scan and appt this afternoon I am going to request an increase in the dose bc I am not happy with that number. What do you all think? After 4 losses I am positive that it was the damn progesterone that caused each and every one and I don;t want to chance yet another loss

Yes I would ask for a higher dose - it does you no harm taking more! I'm on cyclogest 2x200mg a day, plus I'm also topping up with natural progesterone cream. If they won't up your dose maybe try the cream? I don't know what my progesterone level is now, they did it 7dpo and it was 38nmol which is 12ng - I assume you are talking ng rather than nmol? I assume mine should be more now but they probably won't test it again just have to hope that what I'm taking is enough.
See what they say about upping the dosage but I can't see why the wouldn't

 

[Courtney917]

Thanks for your reply . I am not sure in what units they measure...I just know that 15.9 is low at this stage despite the doc saying its fine. I will def demand an increase. The crazy thing is that they originally prescribed me 100 mg of the suppositories and I had a gut feeling that it wasnt enough so I doubled my own dose and informed the doctor of my decision. Thank god I did that bc I think if I didnt I def would've miscarried. Now I need an even higher dose, its crazy bc I didn't have any of these problems with my sons. Do you think the injections work better?

 

[Hann12]

Thanks for your reply . I am not sure in what units they measure...I just know that 15.9 is low at this stage despite the doc saying its fine. I will def demand an increase. The crazy thing is that they originally prescribed me 100 mg of the suppositories and I had a gut feeling that it wasnt enough so I doubled my own dose and informed the doctor of my decision. Thank god I did that bc I think if I didnt I def would've miscarried. Now I need an even higher dose, its crazy bc I didn't have any of these problems with my sons. Do you think the injections work better?

To be honest I'm not sure, I think apparently different people have success with different ways of taking it. I'm sure the unit must be ng, it's still fine but I would ask for more. Is it cyclogest? I'm only on day 2 taking it, I managed to triple my progesterone using the cream but now essentially taking 400mg of cyclogest a day too. It seems like a lot except that I know that it's possible to take double that dosage - I think people who have had ivf take 800mg because their own progesterone has been supressed.
The good news though is that at around 8 weeks the placenta takes over progesterone rather than the ovaries so we just need to make it o then and we should be fine from a progesterone stand point.

 

[julesjules100]

Thanks for your reply . I am not sure in what units they measure...I just know that 15.9 is low at this stage despite the doc saying its fine. I will def demand an increase. The crazy thing is that they originally prescribed me 100 mg of the suppositories and I had a gut feeling that it wasnt enough so I doubled my own dose and informed the doctor of my decision. Thank god I did that bc I think if I didnt I def would've miscarried. Now I need an even higher dose, its crazy bc I didn't have any of these problems with my sons. Do you think the injections work better?

hi there

My dose of cyclogest was increased from 2 pessaries per day (each pessary is 400mg) for each of my IUI's up to 3 pessaries a day (so a total of 1200mg per day), used in the back door.

I had quite an upset stomach using these again right after the IVF (although it could have been the stress) and contacted my FS to ask about what to do if I had to, ahem, dash to the loo and lost them. He said in passing that they are absorbed in 30-45 mins and "it doesn't matter if you have a little extra progesterone. You really can't have too much!". I think there is definitely an argument to request a higher dose if your levels are low. For me I had problems with a thin lining, hence the 3x per day now.

Don't know much about the cream but would expect the pessaries to give you a bigger dose.

J x

 

[julesjules100]

hi there

My dose of cyclogest was increased from 2 pessaries per day (each pessary is 400mg) for each of my IUI's up to 3 pessaries a day (so a total of 1200mg per day), used in the back door.

I had quite an upset stomach using these again right after the IVF (although it could have been the stress) and contacted my FS to ask about what to do if I had to, ahem, dash to the loo and lost them. He said in passing that they are absorbed in 30-45 mins and "it doesn't matter if you have a little extra progesterone. You really can't have too much!". I think there is definitely an argument to request a higher dose if your levels are low. For me I had problems with a thin lining, hence the 3x per day now.

Don't know much about the cream but would expect the pessaries to give you a bigger dose.

J x

PS and I have to keep that going (along with estrogen patches) until the end of the first trimester x

 

[Hann12]

That's interesting Jules, I knew that you have a much higher dose with ivf and iuis - it sounds like a lot but as you say you can't over dose on it! The cream provides about 75mg so not a great deal but it appeared to be enough for my 7dpo amount, but I'm taking cyclogest to be on the safe side! I'm alternating bet inserting back door and vaginally as heard it can irritate if it's done at the same place each tim. So far so good but only had 2 doses so it's early days!

 

[Courtney917]

I'm on suppositories that are made at my local pharmacy...there's no brand name. I think its the natural form which I like. I am taking 100 mg 2x's a day. Should I request 200 mg 2x's a day? I'm afraid he might suggest injections. I am willing to do them to keep this baby in place but I heard they hurt like hell. I think I also have a thin lining as my periods were very light since I have been diagnosed with hypothyroidism. It's just crazy bc I never had to deal with any of this. My doc also suspects PCOS but since I am pregnant he hasn't tested me for it. i am also taking B-Complex vitamins as well as baby aspirin.

 

[stuckinoki]

I'm doing 400mg of the suppositories a day [200mg AM and PM] I'm also taking a double dose of my thyroid meds as well as 1000mg extra of folic acid, along with my gummy vitamin.

My tests are all negative now so I'm not sure if I'll keep taking the progesterone as it can delay the inevitable...I was so hoping this month would be different.

 

[julesjules100]

That's interesting Jules, I knew that you have a much higher dose with ivf and iuis - it sounds like a lot but as you say you can't over dose on it! The cream provides about 75mg so not a great deal but it appeared to be enough for my 7dpo amount, but I'm taking cyclogest to be on the safe side! I'm alternating bet inserting back door and vaginally as heard it can irritate if it's done at the same place each tim. So far so good but only had 2 doses so it's early days!

I know! Definitely felt like a lot to start with. Also, some lovely side effects from it too that get worse the higher the dose (!). I was freaking out about taking so much but do feel better from the "you can't have enough" comment. Although does begs the question why not just give everyone 400mg pessaries 2x per day!

I have never used them at the front as I hear they are rather messy that way (my FS said that you really need to lie down for 30 mins to keep it all in if doing the front just to make sure it's all absorbed. Not an issue at the back). The back seems to work quite well for me, especially as one of them has to be done at work and I can't lie down after that!

 

[julesjules100]

I'm on suppositories that are made at my local pharmacy...there's no brand name. I think its the natural form which I like. I am taking 100 mg 2x's a day. Should I request 200 mg 2x's a day? I'm afraid he might suggest injections. I am willing to do them to keep this baby in place but I heard they hurt like hell. I think I also have a thin lining as my periods were very light since I have been diagnosed with hypothyroidism. It's just crazy bc I never had to deal with any of this. My doc also suspects PCOS but since I am pregnant he hasn't tested me for it. i am also taking B-Complex vitamins as well as baby aspirin.

Yeah, when he originally said he wanted me to do 3x a day I asked if there was any other alternative and he said yes, the injections and then pulled a little face and said "But you really won't like those as they're painful". Never done them so can't comment. No reason at all for your doctor to jump to that and would make much more sense to do say 400mg of Cyclogest 1x per day.

I also had thin lining (my major issue for me). Periods used to be super heavy but was on the pill from 18 to 36. Somewhere in all of that they ended up lasting only a day and a half and barely filling a light tampax (sorry for the TMI!). We have added to my treatment estrogen patches (not sure if it's too far into your pregnancy to add this in now but also worth discussing). I have been doing baby aspirin all the way along too (still am) as this is also supposed to help thin lining.

 

[julesjules100]

I'm doing 400mg of the suppositories a day [200mg AM and PM] I'm also taking a double dose of my thyroid meds as well as 1000mg extra of folic acid, along with my gummy vitamin.

My tests are all negative now so I'm not sure if I'll keep taking the progesterone as it can delay the inevitable...I was so hoping this month would be different.

Oh no.... So sorry to read this.... Honestly though there are so many weird stories of tests going negative/people bleeding etc and the sticky little beans still hang in there. Can you ask your doctor to do a beta just to be sure? x

 

[Hann12]

Stuckinoki - hope you are wrong - why have you continued to test? I wouldn't have thought to retest after the positive.

Jules - I heard they can be messy too - does it give you no irritation doing them always in the same spot? That's what I don't want. Also I heard that by doing it vaginaly it can irritate the area and cause spotting which would be a worry at this stage. Maybe I should just do them back passage. I had no leakage at all which is good!